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lanlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:48 PM
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RNC trying to link Sen. Reid to shoe bomber
This just showed up in my Inbox with a subject line: Shoe Bomber Sentenced.

(The shoe bomber's name was Ralph Reid, and he was sentenced a good 2 years ago. How low can the Rethugs go?)

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Remember the guy who got on a plane with a bomb built into his shoe and tried to light it?

Did you know his trial is over? Did you know he was sentenced? Did you see/hear any of the judge's comments on TV/Radio? Not likely.

Everyone should hear what the judge had to say...

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Ruling by Judge William Young, US District Court

Prior to sentencing, the Judge asked the defendant if he had anything to say.

His response: After admitting his guilt to the court for the record, Reid also admitted his "allegiance to Osama bin Laden, to Islam, and to the religion of Allah," defiantly stated "I think I ought not apologize for my actions," and told the court "I am at war with your country."

Judge Young then delivered the statement quoted below, a stinging condemnation of Reid in particular and terrorists in general:

January 30, 2003, United States vs. Reid. Judge Young: Mr. Richard C. Reid, hearken now to the sentence the Court imposes upon you.

On counts 1, 5 and 6 the Court sentences you to life in prison in the custody of the United States Attorney General. On counts 2, 3, 4 and 7, the Court sentences you to 20 years in prison on each count, the sentence on each count to run consecutive with the other.

That's 80 years.

On count 8 the Court sentences you to the mandatory 30 years consecutive to the 80 years just imposed. The Court imposes upon you each of the eight counts a fine of $250,000 for the aggregate fine of $2 million. The Court accepts the government's recommendation with respect to restitution and orders restitution in the amount of $298.17 to Andre Bousquet and $5,784 to American Airlines. The Court imposes upon you the $800 special assessment.

The Court imposes upon you five years supervised release simply because the law requires it. But the life sentences are real life sentences so I need go no further.

This is the sentence that is provided for by our statutes. It is a fair and just sentence. It is a righteous sentence. Let me explain this to you.

We are not afraid of you or any of your terrorist coconspirators, Mr. Reid. We are Americans. We have been through the fire before. There is all too much war talk here and I say that to everyone with the utmost respect. Here in this court, where we deal with individuals as individuals and care for individuals as individuals. As human beings, we reach out for justice.

You are not an enemy combatant. You are a terrorist. You are not a soldier in any war. You are a terrorist. To give you that reference, to call you a soldier, gives you far too much stature. Whether it is the officers of government who do it or your attorney who does it, or that happens to be your view, you are a terrorist...And we do not negotiate with terrorists. We do not treat with terrorists. We do not sign documents with terrorists. We hunt them down one by one and bring them to justice.

So war talk is way out of line in this court. You are a big fellow. But you are not that big. You're no warrior. I know warriors. You are a terrorist. A species of criminal guilty of multiple attempted murders. In a very real sense, State Trooper Santiago had it right when you first were taken off that plane and into custody and you wondered where the press and where the TV crews were and he said you're no big deal.

You're no big deal.

What your counsel, what your able counsel and what the equally able United States attorneys have grappled with and what I have as honestly as I know how tried to grapple with, is why you did something so horrific. What was it that led you here to this courtroom today?

I have listened respectfully to what you have to say. And I ask you to search your heart and ask yourself what sort of unfathomable hate led you to do what you are guilty and admit you are guilty of doing. And I have an answer for you. It may not satisfy you, but as I search this entire record, it comes as close to understanding as I know.

It seems to me you hate the one thing that is most precious. You hate our freedom. Our individual freedom. Our individual freedom to live as we choose, to come and go as we choose, to believe or not believe as we individually choose. Here, in this society, the very winds carry freedom. They carry it everywhere from sea to shining sea.



It is because we prize individual freedom so much that you are here in this beautiful courtroom. So that everyone can see, truly see, that justice is administered fairly, individually, and discretely. It is for freedom's sake that your lawyers are striving so vigorously on your behalf and have filed appeals, will go on in their representation of you before other judges.



We are about it. Because we all know that the way we treat you, Mr. Reid, is the measure of our own liberties. Make no mistake though. It is yet true that we will bare any burden; pay any price, to preserve our freedoms. Look around this courtroom. Mark it well. The world is not going to long remember what you or I say here. Day after tomorrow, it will be forgotten, but this, however, will long endure. Here in this courtroom and courtrooms all across America, the American people will gather to see that justice, individual justice, justice, not war, individual justice is in fact being done. The very President of the United States through his officers will have to come into courtrooms and lay out evidence on which specific matters can be judged and juries of citizens will gather to sit and judge that evidence democratically, to mold and shape and refine our sense of justice.

See that flag, Mr. Reid? That's the flag of the United States of America. That flag will fly there long after this is all forgotten. That flag stands for freedom. You know it always will.

Mr. Custody Officer. Stand him down.

So, how much of this Judge's comments did we hear on our TV sets? We need more judges like Judge Young, but that's another subject. Pass this around. Everyone should and needs to hear what this fine judge had to say. Powerful words that strike home.

Pass it on...............................everyone should read this!
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:52 PM
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1. Where's the conection.........am I missing something?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:52 PM
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2. Wasn't bush involved in that
Savings and Loan Scandal back in the '80's? Wasn't that a bush? }(
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:53 PM
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3. I don't get the connection with the Senator?
Am I missing something in there?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:54 PM
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4. RALPH REED is the SHOEBOMBER AND AN ENRON LOBBYIST?
The same Ralph Reed who was taking in money to FIGHT gambling at the same time he was taking money from the Indian tribes to lobby FOR gambling?

All at the same time he was running Bush's southeast campaign?

That Ralph Reed sure gets around.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:58 PM
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9. I always thought he was shady. nt
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:54 PM
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5. psst`
richard reid - shoe bomber
raLph reed (or reid?) - former head of the christian coaLition
harry reid - nevada senator
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:57 PM
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6. ROFL Is this for real?
Edited on Thu Feb-10-05 01:57 PM by neweurope
"Here, in this society, the very winds carry freedom. They carry it everywhere from sea to shining sea."

Priceless.


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Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:57 PM
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7. where is the link to Sen. Reid?
read the whole text and didn't see anything about it.

and by the way, the reason the exchnage wasn't on TVs was because cameras are not allowed in federal court.

ps: his name is richard reid, not ralph.
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lanlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 02:01 PM
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11. sorry about getting the name wrong
But this e-mail is being sent out in order to link the name "Reid" in people's feeble minds to anti-American activity.

I read the original news report on the bomber's sentencing; the e-mail was carefully edited to remove the bomber's first name.



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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 02:25 PM
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13. seems like a bit of a stretch....
Harry Reid was re-elected with 61% of the vote this past election. Which means he's not up for re-election until 2010. Even assuming the underhandedness of the GOP that we're seeing being revealed now, its inconceivable that anyone is going to confuse or equate the two merely by name.

This isn't Eddie Murphy in The Distinguished Gentleman. People aren't that easily confused....





Besides, it does mention his full name at the beginning of the judge's remarks. During the rest of the comments he refers to him as Mr. Reid only. Doesn't appear that the message was sanitized the way you suspect. I think the email is more of a rah-rah call to repukes.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:58 PM
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8. I don't get the connection either.
:shrug:
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 02:00 PM
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10. here's the transcript
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 02:04 PM
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12. Unless there is more to this email, I think you should loosen the tinfoil
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 02:27 PM
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14. send recipients pic of Bush with Saudi ambassador whose wife...
gave money to 9/11 bombers
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 02:29 PM
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15. Wonder what all the RNC could be linked to
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