Once babies are born, right wingers don't give a crap about them.

[Lex]

Ever notice that?

Health insurance, access to proper pediatric care, WIC, health care for the mother, safe and warm housing, pre-school, daycare . . . ALL OF IT the repukes slash and burn.

They could not care less about babies in reality.

It's all some sick, sick obsession they have with making sure women have no choice if they become pregnant.

[zanana]

1. My favorite Barney Frank (MA.) quote....

"Republicans believe that life begins at conception and ends at birth".

[mermaid]

7. Great Minds Think Alike!!

I said the same thing in a few similar threads before this one, and in this one here, slightly different...and all before I read this, or ever saw or heard the Barney Frank quote.

At any rate, Barney nailed it.

Although, I think it goes a little further, Barney simplified a bit.

I think, as I posted elsewhere in this thread...For Republicans, life begins at conception and ends the second that life costs Republicans ANYTHING.

[RevolutionaryActs]

8. That is a great quote!

:thumbsup:

[Pacifist Patriot]

13. He's an excellent source of zingers. Another one of his...

Defense of Marriage? It's like the old V-8 commercial. As though if this act didn't pass, heterosexual men all over the country would say, 'I could have married a guy!'

[WLKjr]

2. All a rightwinger cares about is thier wallet

love the fetus hate the child. That's what it comes down to. They are all for anthing till it hit's thier pocketbook.

[DrWeird]

3. Yeah, and the only reason they care about fetuses...

is so they can control women's bodies.

[zanana]

5. YES! It's more a control issue

It's more a control issue than loving little babies. I think they're angry that the last thing holding women down, pregnancy, is now a woman's choice.

[BrklynLiberal]

21. yesyesyesyesyes!

To quote Florynce R. Kennedy once again -
"If men got pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament."

[mermaid]

4. Of Course!!

I have been at pains to point this exact thing out for YEARS...

They love life in the womb, but the second that life emerges from the womb, they give it a giant middle finger!!

Why??

The reasons are twofold, I think. You nailed the first one. It's a control-of-women issue.

Here's the second, which you didn't nail...

2. Life in the womb COSTS THEM NOTHING!! Life outside the womb has the potential to cost THEM something. In the form of health insurance for needy children, food assistance, heat assistance, welfare, etc, etc, etc.

For the right-wing, life begins at conception, and ENDS the second that life costs THEM anything!

[Clark2008]

6. I don't think it's just about women not having choice upon

pregnancy. I think it's all about control - PERIOD.
The rightwinger men control the money, the house, the wife - the one thing they can't control is biology; therefore, they want to force THEIR control in the only manner they can - by telling women they have to give birth. And, somehow, they've convinced an unfortunate number of women of this.

I'm against abortion, personally, btw. But, the reason I'm pro-choice is because I don't want to presume to tell someone else what they can and cannot do.

[mermaid]

10. Your Kind Of Anti-Abortion Stance Is OK

You are against it...FOR YOU!!!
You would not presume to prevent someone else from having an abortion, but you, yourself, would not have one.

I can deal with this. I'm not particularly in favor of abortiuon, either. But I think it should still be a safe, legal choice. Because if it is not, women who want them will still find ways to obtain them. Do you want some woman YOU love to end up in a back alley somewhere, getting a very risky medical procedure done on them by a quack with dirty hands?

I like Clinton's stance on the issue: Abortion should be safe, legal, and rare.

[atreides1]

9. This Isn't Really News

I've made the same statement, many times. Look at the bugdet cuts that they're supporting.

It's not only right wingers, it seems to me that if Republicans support Bush and the party at the expense of children, the elderly, and the disabled, then those Republicans are right wingers.

These cold hearted, mean spirited people need to be destroyed, no questions, no mercy, on quarter given. At least that's the way I feel.

[mermaid]

12. I'm In Favor Of That!!

In a way, it sickens me...to read what was done in 1920's china to the rich people, by the proletariat...where the aristocrats were literally torn apart limb by limb by angry mobs screaming, "This is the power of the proletariat!!"

Yet, at the same time, much as it sickens me...I want to see that happen to the aristocracy here in America. And, given mob mentality, I could even overcome by disgust over such things as to participate in it. Because I'm THAT angry with the power-brokers in this country, and the way they have enslaved and pauperized me.

[Sporadicus]

11. Yes, I Had Noticed That

It doesn't take very long, either. Many RWers favor cutting programs like WIC, which provides a whole array of services to low-income infants.

[NC_Nurse]

14. What's really telling about it as a CONTROL

issue, rather than a LIFE issue, is that they're also AGAINST open access to birth control and sex education as well!

They think they can control EVERYONE by making it a hardship to deal with REALITY. You know, like the reality that some people don't want to have to get married to have sex, or may not want to procreate, or may not be heterosexual or whatever else they have decided they can't deal with. Idiots.

[w4rma]

15. Exactly. (nt)

[cags]

16. Rightwingers also consider it as punishment for unmarried sex too

[Lex]

18. Yes, I agree.

Otherwise, their policies make no logical sense.

They are against abortion AND against teenagers having information about birth control? To me, that makes no sense logically.

Right-wingers want sex to = fear, misinformation, shame, and punishment.

[maveric]

17. Until they're 18 and old enough to carry a gun to kill for RW money.

[leftchick]

19. which begs the question.....

[nashville_brook]

20. well, see -- that's how they tell the good babies from the bad

evil babies are sick and dirty and need to be given to nice white mothers

and good babies are in private nursery school

it's a character thing