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Ronbrynaert Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 02:15 PM
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Another Talon News Plagiarist
Edited on Mon Feb-07-05 03:09 PM by Ronbrynaert
According to the About page at the fake ass Website, "Talon News is a news company which covers political, national, and world news. Talon News focuses on those stories often overlooked by other media outlets."

Bobby Eberle - an engineer and Republican activist/delegate from Houston, Texas - is the head honcho for this "news company" as well as the GOPUSA "empire." Message to Bobby: You might want to change that last sentence on the About page to Talon News filches stories from other media outlets. Mr. Gannon is not the only plagiarist on the staff of the Talon News. And it's not just the White House who's words are being lifted. Talon News also cribs from The New York Times and Fox News.

Just after the 2004 election "results" were officially certified late Thursday afternoon on January 6, 2005, a report by Carl Cameron, Julie Asher and Jim Mills appeared on the Fox News Website: link On January 7, 2005, the article - "Congress Ratifies Bush Victory After a Rare Challenge" written by Sheryl Gay Stolberg and James Dao - was published in The New York Times (excerpted at this cache link), although it most probably was available at The New York Times Website sometime late Thursday evening. On Friday, Steve Roeder, a "correspondent" for Talon News "wrote" a practically identical "article" called "Dems Fail in Ohio Electoral Vote Challenge" which is (how do you delicately put it?) practically stolen (Steve Roeder from Talon News is a plagiarist):

Roeder - A joint session of Congress resumed proceedings Thursday evening and quickly ratified President George W. Bush's November election victory.

Cameron, Asher & Mills - A joint session of Congress resumed meeting Thursday evening and quickly finalized certification of President Bush's 286 Electoral College votes to Democrat John Kerry's 251.

Roeder - Certification was halted for the majority of the afternoon when Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA) and Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones (D-OH) stopped the formal declaration process.

Cameron, Asher & Mills - The certification was delayed for several hours after Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., and Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones, D-Ohio, stopped the formal declaration of Bush's second term to protest voting irregularities.

Roeder - Boxer said on the Senate floor that she and Jones wanted to "shed some light" on issues of reported voting irregularities in Ohio and nationwide election reform.

Cameron, Asher & Mills - Boxer said on the floor of the Senate that she joined with Jones to "shed some light" about the issues of reported voting irregularities in Ohio as well as election reform throughout the nation.

Roeder - Lawmakers were forced to retreat to their separate chambers for two hours of debate and a vote on the challenge.

Stolberg & Dao - Instead of holding a courteous joint session to certify the election, lawmakers were forced to retreat to their separate chambers for two hours of debate and a vote on the challenge.

Roeder - Earlier in the day, Boxer and Jones acknowledged at a news conference that they did not expect to overturn the results.

Cameron, Asher & Mills - Earlier on Thursday, Boxer and Jones held a news conference and acknowledged they are not expecting to overturn the November election results.

The following line appears on the Talon News Website: "Copyright © 2005 Talon News -- All rights reserved." Tell that to Fox News: "This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Copyright 2005 FOX News Network, LLC. All rights reserved."

Read More (including links) at:

http://whyareweback.blogspot.com/2005/02/fake-ass-talon-news.html
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 02:31 PM
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1. The page says "not found".
When I registered, it turned out to be for the purpose of creating a blog! How do I read the article?
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moobu2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 02:45 PM
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2. try this link
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 05:36 PM
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4. Thanks so much!
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Ronbrynaert Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 03:09 PM
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3. sorry
I fixed the link....I had problems posting this before...and it took me a few times.


peace
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 05:37 PM
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5. Thanks, Ron. :)
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sarahlee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 06:01 PM
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6. All that and much more uncovered here
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Ronbrynaert Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 06:11 PM
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7. Actually
All of this is not uncovered there...but it will be soon...since I've been in contact with one of the Kossers working on the propagannon story.

But my article concerns another Talon News "journalist" not Jeff Gannon.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 03:40 AM
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13. a fake blog citing a fake reporter from a fake news
amazing
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theorist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 06:32 PM
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8. This is great stuff, Ron.
Keep up the good work. Your blog is definitely on my bookmarks list now.
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Ronbrynaert Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 03:28 PM
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9. Thanks
I've got an update....I found three more article written by Mr. Roeder which were completely plagiarized as well (from different sources). I'll post excerpts from it later...meanwhile...it's up at my website

peace
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Ronbrynaert Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 03:20 AM
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11. Steve Roeder: Serial Plagiarist For Talon News
Steve Roeder, a "correspondent" for the bogus Talon News, "wrote" an article entitled "Heinz Kerry Says Laura Bush Never Had 'Real Job'" on October 21, 2004 (link). Fortunately for Mr. Roeder, Fox News posted a story on this the day before (link), that ran without a byline, but with the following note: "The Associated Press contributed to this report." Yet for some reason, Mr. Roeder's story doesn't mention the contributions from the Fox News Website nor from this Reuters story: link to cache.

Roeder: "Laura Bush taught in public schools in Texas from 1968 to 1973, then earned a master's degree in library sciences and worked for the following four years as a school librarian. In 1977, she married George W. Bush."

Fox News: "Laura Bush taught in public schools in Texas from 1968 to 1973, then got her library sciences master's degree and worked as a school librarian until 1977, the year she married George W. Bush."
Roeder: "Heinz Kerry, a philanthropist and heiress to the Heinz ketchup fortune valued in excess of $500 million..."

Reuters: "Heinz Kerry, a philanthropist and heiress to a Heinz ketchup fortune of more than $500 million..."

Roeder: "In the newspaper interview, Heinz Kerry, 66, said she sees her age as a benefit."

Fox News: "In the newspaper interview, Heinz Kerry said she sees her age as a benefit — she is 66."

Roeder: "Heinz Kerry drew the ire of the Republicans when USA Today asked her how she would be different from Mrs. Bush if John Kerry won the November 2 election..."

Reuters: "Asked how she would be different from Mrs. Bush if John Kerry won the November 2 election, Heinz Kerry told USA Today..."

Roeder: "Earlier Wednesday, prior to Heinz Kerry's apology, Hughes criticized Heinz Kerry's remarks as "indicative of an unfortunate mind-set that seeks to divide women based on who works at home and who works outside the home."

Fox News: "Prior to Heinz Kerry's apology, Karen Hughes, an adviser to President Bush, criticized Heinz Kerry's remarks as "indicative of an unfortunate mindset that seeks to divide women based on who works at home and who works outside the home."

On December 17, 2004, Mr. Roeder "wrote" a story (link) about Bush's diabolical plans for Social Security which is nearly verbatim to comments made at Press Secretary Scott McClennan's briefing the day before (link):

Roeder: "As the current Social Security system stands, without significant changes, younger workers will face massive tax increases or massive benefit cuts."

McClennan: "If we do nothing, John, our younger workers will face massive tax increases or massive benefit cuts. That's under the current system."

Roeder: "The Social Security trustees state that the system goes insolvent in 2042. In 2018, the annual spending on Social Security will exceed the system's tax revenue."

McClennan: "The Social Security trustees state that it goes insolvent in 2042...the annual spending on Social Security will exceed the system's tax revenue in 2018."

Roeder: "Democratic congressional leaders recently issued a statement saying that they're asking President Bush to come forward with a Social Security proposal that does not reduce Social Security funding, harm the middle class, or cut guaranteed benefits."

Question for McClennan: "Scott, the Democratic congressional leaders issued a statement today, saying that they're asking the President to come forward with a Social Security proposal that does not reduce Social Security funding, harm the middle class or cut guaranteed benefits."

Roeder: "However, the guarantee or expectation of a certain amount in retirement benefits is an empty promise, as younger workers will not have the benefits that they are owed under the current, unsustainable Social Security system."

McClennan: "There are no guaranteed benefits right now. That's an empty promise. Younger workers will not have the benefits that they are owed under the current Social Security system. The current Social Security system is unsustainable."

Roeder: "Many experts say addressing and fixing the sustainability of Social Security will involve either a tax increase, raising the retirement age, cutting benefits, or means testing."
Question for McClennan: "...which a lot of experts are saying would have to involve either a tax increase, raising the retirement age, cutting benefits or means testing."

Roeder: "Addressing the long-term sustainability of Social Security and other long-term debts would be viewed favorably by the financial markets."

McClennan: "And as I pointed out last week, I believe, markets will look favorably on a plan that addresses the long-term sustainability of Social Security."

Roeder: "All three approaches vary in the amount that would be contributed from payroll taxes. Because of the higher rate of return that a younger worker might have, their benefits either would be reduced, or they might have to retire at a higher age. There would be a reduction of benefits as an offset to the higher rate of return."

Question for McClennan: "Well, my question then is, I believe all three approaches -- even though they vary in the amount that would be contributed from payroll taxes do say that because of the higher rate of return that a younger worker might have, the price they would have to pay for that higher return is that their benefits either would be reduced, or they might have to retire at a higher age, but that there would be a reduction of benefits as an offset to the higher rate of return."

On January 31, 2005 Mr. Roeder's "Iraqi Voters Turn Out in Droves" (link) is a combination of nearly identical quotes from Bush's radio address which was broadcast two days earlier (link), and an article that ran on UN.org the day before (link):

Roeder: "On Sunday, the world witnessed crucial milestones in the advancement of freedom and the war on terror. Despite intimidating threats, Iraqis made their way to polling centers in droves throughout their nation to choose from more than 100 different slates with 19,000 candidates competing for seats in the Transitional National Assembly, the country's 18 provincial councils, and the Kurdistan National Assembly."

Bush: "Tomorrow the world will witness a turning point in the history of Iraq, a milestone in the advance of freedom, and a crucial advance in the war on terror. The Iraqi people will make their way to polling centers across their nation. On the national ballot alone, voters will choose from nearly 19,000 candidates competing for seats in the Transitional National Assembly, in the country's 18 provincial councils, and in the Kurdistan National Assembly."

Roeder: "Overseen by the Independent Election Commission of Iraq, the first genuine, nationwide election in generations was deemed a major success."

Bush: "This historic event will be overseen by the Independent Election Commission of Iraq, and will mark the first genuine, nationwide elections in generations."

Roeder: "United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan lauded the bravery of the large numbers of Iraqis who exercised their right to vote, as well as those who supported the process."

UN.org: "Mr. Annan lauded the bravery of the large numbers of Iraqis who exercised their right to vote despite significant attempts at violent disruption, as well as those who supported the process."

Roeder: "Annan also congratulated the U.N. Assistance Mission in Iraq (UNAMI) staff who, with other international electoral experts, worked to support the election."

UN.org: "He also congratulated the UN Assistance Mission in Iraq (UNAMI) staff who, with other international electoral experts, worked to support the election."

Roeder: "Sunday's balloting is the latest step in Iraq's journey to permanent democracy and freedom. Those elected to the transitional 275-member National Assembly will help appoint a new government to represent the diversity of the Iraqi people. This assembly will also be charged with drafting a permanent constitution that will be put to a referendum of the Iraqi people this fall. If approved, a new nationwide election will follow in December that will choose a new government under this constitution."

Bush: "Tomorrow's vote will be the latest step in Iraq's journey to permanent democracy and freedom. Those elected to the transitional National Assembly will help appoint a new government that will fully and fairly represent the diversity of the Iraqi people. This assembly will also be charged with drafting a permanent constitution that will be put to a vote of the Iraqi people this fall. If approved, a new nationwide election will follow in December that will choose a new government under this constitution."

Roeder: "With past actions of assassination, brutal violence, and calculated intimidation..."

Bush: "In the face of assassination, brutal violence and calculated intimidation..."

Just like Jeff Gannon, Mr. Roeder's journalism roots seem to be shrouded in mystery. But - unlike Mr. Gannon - there doesn't seem to be any trace of his biographical background or a picture to show what he looks like. Perhaps - like Mr. Gannon - Steve Roeder writes using an alias. Of course, there's always the possibility that Steve Roeder doesn't exist at all, since there is no trace of any original writing by the "man" either.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 03:37 PM
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10. isn't Talon news is a repuke sponsored site?
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 03:38 AM
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12. The Plot Sickens Even More!
Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when... well, you know the rest.

As a former news reporter who struggled to get every quote accurate, and to take into account the impact of my writing, and to make sure all important points of view were heard, these people are just disgusting.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 04:01 AM
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14. Thanks Should Go To DKos people, Media Matters, World O' Crap...
Edited on Wed Feb-09-05 04:07 AM by Hissyspit
DU, Dan Froomkin, and blogger webdems, apparently, for Jeff Gannon story. Good work with following up on Talon News. Add anyone if I've left them out. Now if we can just get it into the MSM and reported ACCURATELY. (yeah, I know, pipe dreams)
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