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tyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:28 PM
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Hey Dean...boycott FOX!!!!!
IMO, I believe it's time for ALL Dem congressmen/women...Dem pundits...Dem strategists...Dem Senators...Dem actors...ALL OF US...to quit appearing on Fox News.

Why allow them to appear credible by appearing on their fake shows?

Let's cause a ruckus with DNC chairman Dean. Fox news has got to be stopped...now! When they request our presense, our reply should be.."Thanks, but no thanks, my high morals do not allow for my participation in propaganda."
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:31 PM
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1. Didn't he say last week
while being interviewed by someone from Fox that he would not give them any information about the DNC chairmanship because they are a Bush propaganda tool and he would not want to give them any legitimacy???
(I don't think it was aired, but I read about it here, I think)

I agree - every single Dem should refuse to go on any Fox show, citing that since it is clearly a Bush propaganda channel, like the Soviet government channels, they cannot get a fair hearing anyway.

I wish they would ALL do this!!!
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toymachines Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:33 PM
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2. that seems like a very good solution
i wonder if the dems could work together on this one.
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tyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:53 PM
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7. Absolutely
Of course we could all work together on this. It's time to spread the word throughout the net. Let's get a petition started and send it to Dean.

T.
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Cadence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:59 PM
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9. That's a good idea! I'll put some info about it on
my website! Notice to all Democrats stop going on faux news you're making it worse by making it seem as if this farce is legitimate. If you want to rise above something let that be it!!!!
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 07:04 PM
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16. Hi tyne!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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politicaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:42 PM
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5. They could easily find people who pose as dems...
I've seen it before on Faux. These people who seem as if they're actors who give this aire of spinelessness and eventually either get drowned out or just start agreeing with the host as if the loudmouth orator was some political genius instead of the partisan shill with the political knowledge of a 1st year poly-sci student that they are.

If Faux news is so wholesome, then why do they have so many dicks?
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 02:07 PM
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12. Such a simple solution that makes so much sense
If only they would listen
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:35 PM
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3. Starve the beast.
If they don't have any Dems to ambush or berate no one will watch. Their audience is a bunch of drooling simpletons who thrive on conflict. Without that conflict the beast will starve.
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DFLforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:35 PM
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4. It would be a step in the right direction.
Radical but a shot across the bow to cable news.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:45 PM
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6. Read this: He did take them on...it was not aired.
http://www.blogforamerica.com/archives/005795.html

Thursday, January 13, 2005
Gov. Dean Takes on FOX News
As communications director for Gov. Dean and Democracy for America, it's my job to monitor all the news. Needless to say, I usually don't watch FOX News and I know most of you don't either—but, you should tune in tonight because Gov. Dean is going to be on.

The interview was taped this morning in Washington, DC before Gov. Dean departed for Burlington and will air tonight on FOX News at 9:45 p.m. It will also air on Alan Colmes' radio show across the country at 10:00 p.m.

Gov. Dean even takes on FOX News in the interview—let's see if they leave that bit in or edit it out.


Posted by Laura Gross at 08:11 PM
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:56 PM
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8. Or just the opposite....
Edited on Mon Feb-07-05 01:57 PM by onehandle
Push our smartest folks on them. Make it public knowledge that Faux seeks out mostly weak or communication-challenged Dems and Libs. Call them all day long offering our best and brightest for any subject.

My gut says boycott. My brain says send good people on to kick their asses!
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 02:05 PM
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11. I follow your gut - I never watch it but I think the solution is what your
brain says - fight and kick their ass.

If we are going to run and fight in all 50 states for all govt. seats, we need to state our case on all outlets. We need some very effective spokespeople. Lockhart is always good but he may be getting his own show (or something) on CNN.

There are a lot of people who just watch Faux.

Lord help me, in March I will be going to my In-laws for a week (Spring Break in Florida) and they watch Faux constantly. We NEVER discuss politics anymore.

Polarization alive and well in families everywhere.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 07:21 PM
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19. The Dems need a full time PR dept. and booking agent.
The RW think tanks run booking agencies (yes, indeed), that's why they get the guests schooled in the latest propaganda.
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tyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 02:09 PM
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13. Not bad
Putting our smartest folks on the show does no good. They simply get shouted out by both the token Repub AND the host.

A petition is in order. I don't know ANYONE who believes Fox is legit. We can't allow this propaganda machine to continue. We just can't.

Frankly, I'm tired of playing defense. It's time to play offense for awhile. For Christs sake....we constantly play into their hands. We are waaaaaaaaaaaay smarter than this.

This can work...

Let's start a petition. I'm not internet savy enough to do it. Anyone game?

T.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 02:11 PM
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14. I agree. Harder for them to lie about you when you are there
Running from their attacks does no good.
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Melynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 07:38 PM
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22. Take the fight to them
I say don't boycott Fox. Then the right wingers will say that progressives are chicken. I say go into the lion's den and take them on and show their stupidity for the whole world to see. And you never know. The Dems just might convert some moderate/conservative types.
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Cadence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 02:01 PM
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10. I think we should start a letter writing campaign to the
prominent Dem's, particularly the one's that keep showing up there, and urge them to refuse future appearances. I really like this idea!!!
If there isn't anyone on their show to bully, they'll sit around arguing with each other, or have to talk straight at the camera just spouting off their ridiculous pundit b.s. which will make it even more obvious they have nothing to do with news.
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tyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 02:17 PM
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15. Another thing
Canada shouldn't have to fight(recent expose) this battle for us.

Fox news makes us(America) looks so foolish. I'm sick of it.

Who's a good letter writer out there?

T.
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TheOriginalAmerican Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 07:16 PM
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17. I disagree.
We need to understand how right wingers think in order to beat them. Let's watch Fox News!
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 07:23 PM
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20. Be my guest. I like to keep my lunch down. nt
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 08:22 PM
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25. We don't have to watch Fox...Media Matters does it for us.
www.mediamatters.org

It's a dirty job, but someone has to do it.
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:06 PM
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31. Let's watch, but not participate
Watching is one thing, and helping them appear legitimate is another.

Its long past time to quit subsidizing FoxNews by participating in their hate-fests and pro-Bush/anti-Dem propaganda.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 07:18 PM
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18. Yep, everytime one of ours appears it lends them credibility.
No Dems on FAUX=no controversy.

No controversy=no ratings.

No ratings=bye, bye, FAUX.
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WetBarNone Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 07:30 PM
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21. How else do you expect him to reach the stars and bars truckers?
Billboards?
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 08:03 PM
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23. It is long overdue.
I hope Dean would do this. Democrats not showing up on Fox would correctly let the network hang out to dry with their "fair and balanced" bullshit.

Call them on it.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 08:15 PM
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24.  Clark, Clinton , Dean, Kerry or any leading Dem no Fox appearances.
Fox must acknowledge their past lies and pledge to reform.
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julialnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 08:26 PM
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26. I actually disagree
There are many people out there that are ignorant and watch fox like it's real news. We need people to challenge their smear. Like it or not they are out there and have many viewers who watch and spread lies.

It's like the Post. I'm a NYer and I see many people with the Post....many people I know buy it for page six and sports. It is important to try to stop propaganda in any way.
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trillian Donating Member (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 08:34 PM
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27. Yup!
We are never going to win if we insulate ourselves.

There aren't enough of "us".

We'll need to recruit some of "them"

The only way to do that is to broadcast our ideas in enemy territory!
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julialnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 09:50 PM
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29. I agree with you
We have to think larger than a group mentality
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ICantBelieve Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 08:34 PM
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28. I agree and disagree
I like the idea of sending General Clark on Fox to talk about the military. Give the Dems exposure to the Faux News viewers in ways they'll come out sounding positive. Send them in to talk about what they're indisputable experts on.

On the other hand, I think we should stop sending people to the shows that are all about screaming at each other. No more Scarborough-like shows for any Democrats. Nothing good comes of them.

Therefore, we should choose our shows carefully, but not boycott a given network.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:01 PM
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30. Not only Fox, but also CNN ... and maybe MSNBC
To think we can go on those shows and debate on ... ::::gasp:::: ... facts is sheer folly. Our people are there for one reason only ...... to be punching bags.

Sorry to say, but we can not win on facts. To do so would require a discerning audience. To "win" on the teevee one has to comport oneself in much the same way as a WWF "rassler" calling out the villain du jour.

I would love nothing more than to see every Dem "Just Say No" to RW teevee.

On the other hand, is some press, is some exposure, better than none? I just don't know. :shrug:
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Dude_CalmDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:29 PM
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34. Exactly. Where the hell do you draw the line?
In my opinion CNN is worse than Fox because CNN has credibility with a lot of people. There's only a handful of people out there dumb enough to think Fox is actually news but CNN is just as full of it as Fox but they carry a lot more weight with a lot of people. I say stay off all major media. They will scramble to get them back because they know that if there is a complete Dem blackout they loose all of their (completely undeserved) credibility.
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Flammable Materials Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:10 PM
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32. They'll just get Joe Lieberman and Zell Miller. n/t
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:20 PM
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33. NO! That's what Limpballs does...only calls from supporters!
It givess them credibility! Their viewers see every guest agreeing with the ideas they broadcast. That would be a very foolish mistake! We need MORE exposure on FOX and every other media outlet. That's the way you get your messages out; get people to listen and say gee that makes sense.
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 10:53 PM
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35. This boycott is long overdue!
Great post!
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