Is Condoleezza Rice complete out of her f*cking mind?

[complain jane]

Visiting Europe, Rice warns Russia on Democracy
Says country must show commitment to free press

The Associated Press
Updated: 10:36 p.m. ET Feb. 5, 2005

ANKARA, Turkey - Russia needs to show a commitment to a free press and other “basics of democracy,” and cooperate with former Soviet republics such as Georgia and Ukraine where democracy is taking hold, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Saturday.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6911810/

[Wapsie B]

1. How's about this country

showing a committment to a free press? There ain't such a thing if korporate amerika owns it.

[smbolisnch]

2. Yes

I believe it's a prerequisite to a place in this administration.

[Warpy]

3. She's not crazy, she's just incredibly ignorant and arrogant and

utterly incompetent, and she likes it that way.

She's an absolute waste of protoplasm. The only upside to this is that I think the world's leaders know all this and take everything that dolt says for humor value.

[Old Mouse]

11. Correct

Unlike the rest of the cabinet, Condi's not evil, just too incompetent for any sort of civil service. A stooge mouthpiece unaware of her own impotence.

She's only fit to be a piano teacher for the children of Ambassador's row.

[Not_Giving_Up]

4. I'm sorry, did you expect something intelligent to come out of her mouth?

If you did, WHY?????

[murray hill farm]

5. Clearly, she is!!

We might as well just join the rest of the world...and have a good laugh...she is a joke and an embarrassment...and she is out there flaunting it.

[Haymare22]

6. She's a rapture fanatic.....

Of course she's fukin nuts.

[mediaman007]

13. She'll be disappointed when she finds out that after all it was

just Kool-aid.

Won't that piss them off, when the Rapture turns out not to be God's plan.

[Divine Discontent]

33. "rapture fanatic" so she fucking nuts?

that is to say you are calling anyone who believes in the rapture occuring at some point, being, as you called it, "fucking nuts"?

Am I right in your connotation?

[ultraist]

7. ummmm...yes...She also PISSED OFF IRAN

A close advisor to the Iranian president was quoted as saying that Condi's remarks were insensitive and ill informed, or something to that effect. MSM didn't report on it, but Al Jazeera QUOTED this and named the official. I think the BBC also reported on it.

She is making ALL KINDS OF NEW FRIENDS around the globe for us, isn't she?

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[MisterP]

9. ooh, they'll pretend to critique Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, etc. even harder

[lala_rawraw]

10. LMAO

This is like "dare-a-nuke" ... and I suppose that is what they want, a full blown WWWIII to cut down on that extra 4 billion people in the world. What could possibly be the reason for this kind of bad to worse deplomacy? Conyers was so right when he said Condi will make Powell seem like a Progressive... only I would venture even further and say Condi will make Powell look like Chomsky.

[mediaman007]

14. She needs Russia to be the enemy again, or

her doctorate is useless.

[LibertyorDeath]

38. LOL

"Condi will make Powell look like Chomsky" :)

[Cleita]

12. Well, that's the icing on the cake, an arrogant Secretary of State.

We must get rid of them now!!!

Until then, please keep her away from North Korea.

[Haymare22]

18. If she's already pissing all these people off........

HOLLEE crap.....She's only had her new 'job' a few days.

We are fuked.

[David Dunham]

20. She is right to get Putin angry. He's an anti-democratic jerk.

[lala_rawraw]

24. Um...

Check our Prez for a moment and let me know what you think might be Democracy.

[Cleita]

25. She doesn't have a right to get Putin angry.

She doesn't have rights. She is a diplomat supposedly, and her job is cementing relationships with all countries that aren't attacking us so we can move forward to arms control, environmental responsibilty and trade.

[ermoore]

29. Well said.

Putin IS an anti-democratic a-hole. And it needs to be said more. The question is why is *'s SecState the only one saying it. C'mon, why can't the rest of Europe or some Dems speak up about Putin? And yall (not all of you, but many) are just too willing to gloss over Russia's slow regression back into facism just because to do otherwise might mean you would agree with * on something.

[sonicx]

45. because you know what the faith-based solution is...

"bomb em, let god sort it out"

Condi's words will probably be met with laughs by Putin, then he'll get worse, and then...

[David Dunham]

21. She is right to get Putin angry. He's an anti-democratic jerk.

[stunted_evolution]

41. Ha!

Well said.

[newyawker99]

46. Hi stunted_evolution!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Stop_the_War]

15. Yes n/t

[WLKjr]

16. She's not mad, just MENDING FENCES

Didn't you hear, she went to poland today to do just that......

[Lefty48197]

17. Cantbelieveya Rice is a moron

.

[David Dunham]

19. She's right for once. Putin is slowly becoming a dictator.

[LibertyorDeath]

31. Putin has more intelligence brain dead than **ush does firing

on all cylinders. The man is a Shark he will fuck America up one side and down the other given half a chance. The morans running America will give him that chance. He is ruthless beyond **ushes wildest dreams.
He's been having joint military exercises with China & is ready to piss on the $ in favour of the Euro.

He controls the second largest Nuclear arsenal on the planet & there is fuck all Condaliesza or anyone else can do about it.

On top of all this they have Oil lots of Oil.

[anarchy1999]

35. And Bush Administration, Inc. is not? Right?

eom

Call a kettle black, okay? For heaven's sake, at least be honest about it.

[journalist3072]

22. So many countries to invade, so little time...

What's an empire to do?!

[Tinoire]

23. Get even more pissed. DLC & Biden on board. Signed PNAC letter to EU

Letter of 100 on Democracy in Russia, September 28, 2004

An Open Letter to the Heads of State and Government
Of the European Union and NATO
September 28, 2004

(snip)
� we are deeply concerned that these tragic events are being used to further undermine democracy in Russia. Russia's democratic institutions have always been weak and fragile. Since becoming President in January 2000, Vladimir Putin has made them even weaker. He has systematically undercut the freedom and independence of the press, destroyed the checks and balances in the Russian federal system, arbitrarily imprisoned both real and imagined political rivals, removed legitimate candidates from electoral ballots, harassed and arrested NGO leaders, and weakened Russia's political parties. In the wake of the horrific crime in Beslan, President Putin has announced plans to further centralize power and to push through measures that will take Russia a step closer to authoritarian regime.
We are also worried about the deteriorating conduct of Russia in its foreign relations. President Putin's foreign policy is increasingly marked by a threatening attitude towards Russia's neighbors and Europe's energy security, the return of rhetoric of militarism and empire, and by a refusal to comply with Russia's international treaty obligations. In all aspects of Russian political life, the instruments of state power appear to be being rebuilt and the dominance of the security services to grow. We believe that this conduct cannot be accepted as the foundation of a true partnership between Russia and the democracies of NATO and the European Union.
These moves are only the latest evidence that the present Russian leadership is breaking away from the core democratic values of the Euro-Atlantic community. All too often in the past, the West has remained silent and restrained its criticism in the belief that President Putin's steps in the wrong direction were temporary and the hope that Russia would soon return to a democratic and pro-Western path. Western leaders continue to embrace President Putin in the face of growing evidence that the country is moving in the wrong direction and that his strategy for fighting terrorism is producing less and less freedom. We firmly believe dictatorship will not and cannot be the answer to Russia's problems and the very real threats it faces.
The leaders of the West must recognize that our current strategy towards Russia is failing. Our policies have failed to contribute to the democratic Russia we wished for and the people of this great country deserve after all the suffering they have endured. It is time for us to rethink how and to what extent we engage with Putin's Russia and to put ourselves unambiguously on the side of democratic forces in Russia. At this critical time in history when the West is pushing for democratic change around the world, including in the broader Middle East, it is imperative that we do not look the other way in assessing Moscow's behaviour or create a double standard for democracy in the countries which lie to Europe's East. We must speak the truth about what is happening in Russia. We owe it to the victims of Beslan and the tens of thousands of Russian democrats who are still fighting to preserve democracy and human freedom in their country.

Urban Ahlin Madeleine K. Albright Giuliano Amato
Uzi Arad Timothy Garton Ash Anders Aslund
Ronald D. Asmus Rafael L. Bardaji Wladyslaw Bartoszewski

Arnold Beichman Jeff Bergner Joseph R. Biden
Carl Bildt Max Boot Ellen Bork
Pascal Bruckner Mark Brzezinski Reinhard Buetikofer

Janusz Bugajski Michael Butler Martin Butora
Daniele Capezzone Per Carlsen Gunilla Carlsson
Ivo Daalder Massimo D'Alema Pavol Demes
Larry Diamond Peter Dimitrov Thomas Donnelly
Nicholas Eberstadt Uffe Elleman-Jensen Helga Flores Trejo

Francis Fukuyama Jeffrey Gedmin Bronislaw Geremek
Carl Gershmann Marc Ginsberg Andre Glucksmann
Phil Gordon Karl-Theodor von und zu Guttenberg
Istvan Gyarmati Pierre Hassner Vaclav Havel
Richard C. Holbrooke Toomas Ilves Bruce Jackson
Donald Kagan Robert Kagan Craig Kennedy
Penn Kemble Glenys Kinnock Bernard Kouchner
Jerzy Kozminski Ivan Krastev William Kristol
Girts Valdis Kristovskis Ludger Kuehnhardt Mart Laar
Vytautas Landsbergis Stephen Larrabee
Mark Leonard Sabine Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger
Tod Lindberg Tom Malinowski
Will Marshall Margarita Mathiopoulos
Clifford May John McCain Michael McFaul
Matteo Mecacci Mark Medish Thomas O. Melia
Sarah E. Mendelson Michael Mertes Ilir Meta
Adam Michnik Richard Morningstar Joshua Muravchik

Klaus Naumann Dietmar Nietan James O'Brien
Janusz Onyszkiewicz Cem Ozdemir Can Paker
Mark Palmer Martin Peretz Friedbert Pflueger
Danielle Pletka Florentino Portero Samantha Ravich
Janusz Reiter Alex Rondos Jim Rosapepe
Jacques Rupnik Eberhard Sandschneider
Randy Scheunemann Christian Schmidt
Gary Schmitt Simon Serfaty Stephen Sestanovich

Radek Sikorski Stefano Silvestri Martin Simecka
Gary Smith Abraham Sofaer James Steinberg
Gary Titley Ivan Vejvoda Sasha Vondra
Celeste Wallander Ruth Wedgood Richard Weitz

Kenneth Weinstein Jennifer Windsor R. James Woolsey


http://www.newamericancentury.org/russia-20040928.htm

[Starlight]

26. She's nothing but our simple-minded president's half-witted mistress.

It's humiliating to have these pathetic airheads making us look like a nation of fools. :silly:

[Tinoire]

36. Yeah but I think they hit a bump lol

"As I was telling my husb--as I was telling President Bush." --Condoleezza Rice,at a Washington dinner party.


Paging Dr. Freud� Paging Dr. Freud�

[ermoore]

27. What's wrong with this?!!

Putin is about two steps away from being a dictator. Maybe it's a little aggressive, but it's true. It probably needed to be said.

[sonicx]

28. cowboy callouts are not productive...

I'm surprised she didn't say "bring em on"

[Divine Discontent]

39. pResident Bush

is the only one allowed to holler, "BRING 'EM ON!", it's stated in his contract, breaching that contract would result (funny, I almost typed reslut there!) in her being demoted to white house mistress, and that we clearly know she is NOT! (she's not around enough)

[oasis]

44. I doesn't need to be said by hypocrites who are doing the same thing.

What ever happened to "leading by example"?

[Straight Shooter]

30. A former KGB agent is not going to take a black American woman seriously

I'm sorry, but Kindasleazy Rice is not equipped to deal with the likes of Putin. Nor is bush for that matter. I don't care how smart Rice is, I don't care how coy or charming an act she puts on, Putin is set on a course that all the threatening and semi-threatening words in the world won't stop.

Russia has O-I-L. Russia has D-I-A-M-O-N-D-S and can upset a lot of apple carts in short order. Furthermore, Putin doesn't give a rat's patooie what Rice, or bush, or Cheney, or anyone else thinks. He's effin' KGB. Maybe Gonzales can look in his eyes and see his soul, kind of like soul mates. Beyond that, forget it, he's making his own way and wants everyone else out of the way.

Dictator Putin. Hold on, it's coming.

edit: about Russia's diamonds - http://www.dakov.com/newshow.php?row=3

[LibertyorDeath]

40. I see you know your Putin

"Putin doesn't give a rat's patooie what Rice, or bush, or Cheney"

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[anarchy1999]

34. Mumm,... YES! Sorry, I just think she is.

No flames allowed.

[Tinoire]

37. No flames from me. She's plain... WHACKO! n/t

[njdemocrat106]

42. Not crazy, just the ultimate Bush kiss-ass

Cheney orders Bush, Bush orders Condi, that's how it goes

[0rganism]

43. In the New World Order, we're the crazy ones. Sec. Rice is doubleplus good

Forget what you know, it's not worth a damn thing anymore. Bushco is creating neo-reality from scratch.

"There is no spoon."