what woman had/has the most beautiul mind in the 20th C?

[Gabi Hayes]

aside from Imogene Coca

[Gabi Hayes]

1. Mother Theresa will get you tombstoned

i promise

[BrklynLiberal]

89. Simone De Beauvior

"All oppression creates a state of war. "

"Defending the truth is not something one does out of a sense of duty or to allay guilt complexes, but is a reward in itself."

"One is not born a woman, but becomes one."

"One's life has value so long as one attributes value to the life of others, by means of love, friendship, indignation and compassion."

"The most mediocre of males feels himself a demigod as compared with women."

[kodi]

90. my pick too. (n/t)

.

[lala_rawraw]

99. Yep, Simone AND

I have to add 2 more for the #1 slot, sorry, cannot help it:

Anna Akhmatova
Ann Sexton

[hangemhigh]

2. Sontag. nt

[Gabi Hayes]

3. seriously.....

Terry Tempest Williams

[ultraist]

48. As mentioned, Eleanor Roosevelt but also Margaret Mead

Lucy Stone, 19th century (I thought she died in the early 1900's not late 1800's)
Short biographical note
Lucy Stone, "American reformer, who was a pioneer in the movement for women's rights. She was born near West Brookfield, Mass., on Aug. 13, 1818. Disagreeing with her father's belief that men should be dominant over women, Lucy undertook to educate herself and was graduated from Oberlin College in 1847.

A woman of great personal magnetism, she toured the country, lecturing against slavery for the Anti-Slavery Society and also advocating equality for women. She was an organizer of the first national women's rights convention held in Worcester, Mass., in 1850. In 1855 she married Henry Blackwell, a crusader for women's suffrage, and by mutual agreement with her husband she retained her maiden name. She then focused on winning equality for women, generally through legislation, and often in vain. She helped organize the American Woman Suffrage Association in 1869.


edit: saw time frame on OP

[Gabi Hayes]

51. I thought of Emily Dickinson, too....not sure if she made it to the 20C

Lucy Stone?

she part of the Donna Reed show?

sorry, had to

[ultraist]

64. Emily Dickenson is not 20th. I hadn't noticed the time frame

I guess I should READ the OP rather than scan through. :D

[Rowdyboy]

4. Leontyne Price.........

Though I'm probably prejudiced because she grew up in my home town.

[orpupilofnature57]

5. Mother Theresa or Joni Mitchell, Both fed hunger, liberated!

[Gabi Hayes]

7. MT's mind was NOT beautiful.....she took advantage of those

she "helped"

kept many of them in pain and poverty

check for yourself

NObody who was good friends with Charles Keating can be considered to have a beautiful mind

[orpupilofnature57]

25. Her only infraction was being Roman catholic,which I'm still recovering

I agree with you whole heartedly, as to the hypocrisy of the papal mafia.O.K. I want to switch m\t for Susan Sahrandon, because she pisses Shrub off.

[Gabi Hayes]

33. it goes much deeper than her catholicism.....it shaped her, but

she CHOSE to use it in furtherance of very antisocial ends

[DIKB]

6. She's physically beautiful too

but Natalie Portman.

P.S. She thinks Vegetarians Are Sexy :loveya: <Rawr>

[lala_rawraw]

100. She really is

Lovely to look at, but I know little of her mind. Any article links?

[zmdem]

8. Hard to pick just one

My Mother

For runners up:

Mother Teresa comes to mind

In politics,

Margaret Thatcher
Golda Meier
Condi Rice, maybe, we'll need some time to decide

Hedy Lamar, yep she did have a beautiful mind too. Basic work on cel phone technology during WWII. It's twue.

[Gabi Hayes]

11. are you out of your MIND????? margaret thatcher??????

I was just about to mention Hedy Lamarr, though, for the reason you mention

[zmdem]

21. Maggie

Was elected three times as PM of Britain. She changed politics in that country, in a similar way that Reagan did in the USA. Like her or hate her, she is certainly one of the most important women of the 20th century. Arguably THE most important, in the political realm.

[Gabi Hayes]

26. so hitler was the most important in the 20th C, by your logic

he had one beauty of a mind, too

ask the Brits how beautiful the changes she wrought there think she is now...the prototype for world dominion by the IMF/World Bank

really beautiful concept: privatize everything

[zmdem]

36. Ask the Labour Party

About maggie. Like Clinton they also took to heart the lessons of the other party, and adopted them as their own. Does "Third Way" sound familiar ? In Britain, the tories have been marginalized by this strategery. Blair will win a third term this year. Even he didn't run, the odds on favourite would be the Chancellor of the Exchequer, Gordon Brown.

As to beautiful minds, I don't have ESP. I have to judge by actions.

Yes, Hitler was an important figure in the 20th century. He gets a lot of play as the bad guy. Personally, I think Stalin should get top billing.

[Gabi Hayes]

37. zzzzzzzzzz......Labour party has been coopted like the Dem party

here

did Stalin start WWII?

[zmdem]

54. That's my point

20 years later Maggie exerts an influence, not just on her own party, but the opposition party too. When you can remake your opponents so that they are like you, you have won.

Margaret Thatcher is indeed the most significant woman of the 20th century.

[Gabi Hayes]

56. you really don't get it at ALL, do you? you completely miss the point

try reading some of the other posts that point out the fallacy in your logic

or, better yet, try taking a reading comprehension course, then start over at the top

[zmdem]

98. Thank you for your kind advice,

I will give it all the consideration it deserves.

[Warpy]

27. Yeah, but she was WRONG, she declared much of the working people

"redundant" while trying to underfund and dismantle the social safety net, started a war, and was generally a raving lunatic. This is "beautiful" to you???

There are plenty of women with beautiful minds.

Alice Walker
Susan Sontag
Eleanor Roosevelt

to name just three. They created beauty and helped people around them see the world in a new way or stood for the ordinary person against the rich and powerful.

Screw Mad Maggie. There's a special place in hell for that kind of "beauty."

[zmdem]

44. Susan Sontag ?

In the real world she is trivial compared to M. Thatcher. E. Roosevelt was a fine women who got to do good things because she married well. M. Thatcher got there on her own. She did not depend on a man for her success. I'm not familiar with Alice Walker, so won't comment, but will Google her to find out.

[Gabi Hayes]

47. don't bother

please

go read the Classic Comix version of The Color Purple

take your time

please

[zmdem]

102. As you wish (n/t)

[Hissyspit]

120. The question was who had most beautiful mind, not who had most impact.

Margaret Thatcher's mind a cesspool.

[orpupilofnature57]

58. Not to mention torture and murder of Irish prisoners!

[henrik larssonisking]

105. started a war, ????????????

you mean when the argentine junta invaded the falkland islands, i guess that must mean that poland started a war when hitler invaded them.

[Clark2008]

18. Condi????

Condi Rice???

She doesn't have a beautiful mind - her's is more a brainwashed one.

[zmdem]

24. Please note my caveat

She has just taken her position as Sec. of State. How that works out, only time will tell. Still, as a woman in politics, it is had to deny that she is significant.

[Gabi Hayes]

28. so, you've been laying low for hundreds of posts, havncha?

g'night

thought you were serious there for a post or two

[Clark2008]

41. The question wasn't whether she's significant

Yes, she is - in more bad ways than good.

The question was if she has a beautiful mind. A beautiful mind includes the pure at heart, those who work hard for a cause for no other reason than because it's correct - that sort of thing.

Condi is significant, but Ms. Oil Tanker doesn't have a beautiful mind.

[Gabi Hayes]

50. someone is either having hugelaughs at our expense, or is

exCEEDingly, uh, dimwitted

[Gabi Hayes]

75. did you note its little flag in its personal section?

wtf?

[RaleighNCDUer]

62. Just curious,

does zmdem stand for Zell Miller Democrat?

[Gabi Hayes]

66. great catch! makes perfect sense, doesn't it?

make that nonsense, which is what it's been spouting, IIMBSB

[tkmorris]

97. Maggie? Condi Rice?

Is this sarcasm? I seem to be missing the joke. Not the first time though, I assure you. :)

[gater]

9. Eleanor Roosevelt...she got "it" long before others did!

[murray hill farm]

10. Jane Goodall

a beautiful mind!!

[smbolisnch]

13. I love Jane Goodall!

:)

[Gabi Hayes]

16. me, too....who was the one with the gorillas in the mist?

she was very very wonderful, as well

so wonderful they had to fricking KILL her

[Spinzonner]

19. Dian Fossey

[Gabi Hayes]

23. I knew that

no, I forgot

[two gun sid]

12. Elizabeth Gurley Flynn or Mother Jones

I can't decide.

[Gabi Hayes]

14. who's the first one......excellent on Mother Jones

thx

[two gun sid]

30. IWW GEB member

Helped lead the Lawrence and Paterson strikes. Jailed 3 times under the Smith Act 1952. Helped lead the Free Speech fights out west in the 1910's. Joe Hill wrote the song 'Rebel Girl' about her while awaiting execution in Utah. Wrote the book 'I Speak My Piece'. Born 1890 Died 1964.
One of the greatest Wobblies and a hero of the working class.

[Gabi Hayes]

63. thanks, sid....will read about her

which side are you on, boys....
which side are you on?

[two gun sid]

122. While you're at it.....

read about Lucy Parsons, one of the Haymarket widows.

[BeatleBoot]

15. Ruth Buzzy

on Laugh In...

[Gabi Hayes]

17. verrrrry intereshting......

but shtoopit

[BeatleBoot]

29. I guess you never talked to her then....

[Gabi Hayes]

52. no.....juist kidding.....thought you were, too

sorry

that's cool, if you had an encounter llke that

[BeatleBoot]

108. I was kidding, too.

Just feeling droll...

Great thread by the way!

[LdyGuique]

92. Mother Theresa

Mother Theresa was the living embodiment of her religious belief in "love." I'm neither Catholic nor Christian and I still can see her inner glow. She loved all, even Charles Keating. Besides, even Charles Keating was more than the sum of his crimes -- he had to atone for his misdeeds.

I'm surprised that Wangari Maathai, the 2004 Nobel Peace Prize Grantee, hasn't been mentioned yet. Take a look at her biography on the Nobel site

[begin_within]

67. Actually, Buzzi

[Clark2008]

20. Linda McCartney

eom

[Aristus]

22. Tie between Jane Goodall and Eleanor Roosevelt.

Jane looked cuter in shorts, though. :7

[orpupilofnature57]

31. I like your pick best! I always thought both would be hotter than

colt 45's, courageous to the nth degree, two heroes.

[Gabi Hayes]

32. if only dumbo could have had some meaningful contact with her

in his chimpage years, just think how much different things might have been

he may have learned social skills sufficient to keep him from waging war on the other troops of homanids, or, better yet, would have realized his unfitness to be part thereof, and skulked of to a lonely masturbatory existence in bananaland

[qanda]

34. Rosa Parks

[Gabi Hayes]

35. that's a GREAT one! I spent some time at the MLK museum

.........the motel where he was murdered....and it was a powerfully emotional experience

they have a replica of the bus she rode, with statues of her sitting there, with the bus driver looming over her, insisting she move to the back of the bus. you can get on and sit there

I was the ohly white person there, and to see everyone else, sit there in other seats, tentatively, then BEAMING with pride, as they felt the impact, was, in a way, transformational

having gone to Memphis to see the 20th anniversary of elvis' death celebration, I can surely say I went from the sublime to the totally ridiculous in a very short timespan

every white american should make an effort to visit that place...even more evocative, and, perhaps, more meaningful, than, say, the Vietnam War Memorial.

[kentuck]

103. That is my pick also..!

Rosa Parks.

[Mikimouse]

38. Silly liberal ! By her own words, it is clear that the most beautiful..

mind belongs to Barbara Bush. get it straight! :hippie: :evilgrin:

[Gabi Hayes]

40. aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

dot's a GUD VUN!

care to post it here for mutual hathos?

[Mikimouse]

53. I'd have to skip dinner if I did...

the mere thought of the reptile makes me ill.

[bemildred]

39. Emma Goldman

http://www.geocities.com/Paris/2159/redemm.html

[two gun sid]

55. Good choice. n/t

[bemildred]

42. Hannah Arendt

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/biography/arendt.html

[gottaB]

107. second that

[bemildred]

43. Arundhati Roy

http://www.salon.com/sept97/00roy.html

[KlatooBNikto]

45. Raquel Welch. She was the one who said : The mind is the most

erogenous zone of the body.And what a body! And what a mind!

[indigobusiness]

46. Isabella Rossellini/////Madame Blavatsky///Anais Nin

If what Proust says is true, that happiness is the absence of fever, then I will never know happiness.
For I am possessed by a fever for knowledge, experience, and creation. -Anais Nin

[Gabi Hayes]

59. too funny, you....isn't Mme, B's real name Boudreaux?

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[indigobusiness]

71. Alice B. Toklas

was Alice Boudreaux Toklas.

[Gabi Hayes]

74. time for you to Toke....less

hork!

[lala_rawraw]

101. Only Anais..

I would agree with and only with regard to her bio of D.H. Lawrance. I love her diaries, but they are well edited and finctionlized and that is not a great mind, but a great creative power. Her Lawrance work is brilliant.

[indigobusiness]

104. I notice from your profile that we have similar hobbies.

I recently caught an old tv intvw (from the late 50s/early 60s) with Anais in some sort of round-table discussion with a couple of men. Everyone was smoking cigarettes and expositing. It was something to behold. She was absolutely fascinating. The intellectual level of discourse put to shame the pap we generally see today. It was rich.

[Cleita]

49. Jane Goodall.

She is such a beautiful person with a pure agenda in her life. I was very fortunate to be able to meet her once.

[JoshK]

57. Rosa Luxemburg. Helen Keller. Susan B. Anthony.

To name a few.

[Stop_the_War]

60. Rosa Parks, Rosa Luxembourg, Evita Peron, Susan B. Anthony

[idlisambar]

61. Ayn Rand

:P (just kidding)

[Gabi Hayes]

65. sure

one question....that economist's site is too filled with his own itinerary to spend any time there

answer me this: is he a supply-sider?

if you're a Rand acolyte, it would make sense

[idlisambar]

68. it was a joke

Not a Rand acolyte, quite the opposite.

Concerning the site, no he's not a "supply-sider" at all, he's not even a neo-classical.

[Gabi Hayes]

73. ok....hahahahahahahaha, then! got me!

I did see one cite on his site that made me wonder, but was too lazy to check it out

what's the deal with that guy, btw? I have a "degree" in Industrial Econonics, but I can barely remember what a liquidity trap is.

actually, I can't

ha

[idlisambar]

82. His book might be interesting to you

The main thesis of the book is that academic economics needs reform. The book is basically a thorough dismantling of neo-classical economics, and he has one chapter that deals with the notion of a "liquidity trap". I didn't get a degree in economics, but having taken a few courses in college, and this book disabused me of a lot of notions.

He leans post-keynesian himself, but posts links to broadly varying heterodox schools -- Austrian, Marxian, etc. even though he doesn't agree with them. His mission is to make economics more of a science and open the floodgates on ideas that the neo-classicals have kept locked up.

cheers, ;)

[begin_within]

69. Richard Simmons

[Stop_the_War]

70. Cher

LOL

[Stop_the_War]

72. Ann Coulter LOL just kidding......n/t

[ultraist]

76. Jeannette Rankin, Social Activist, First Woman elected to Congress

Fannie Lou Hammer, Civil Rights Activist
Very cool site, Smithsonian Portrait gallery of women of the 20th Century
http://www.npg.si.edu/cexh/woot/

[G_j]

77. two of my favs: Medea Benjamin, Starhawk n/t

[enough]

78. Margaret Sanger

[catzies]

79. I nominate Granny D

She inspires me.

[susu369]

112. My vote as well

Granny D

[enough]

80. Nina Simone

[Gabi Hayes]

83. thanks for that....reminds me: Marlene Dietrich

amazing woman, FIERCELY antinazi

inspiring bio on TV a few months ago

[enough]

81. Dorothy Day

[indigobusiness]

84. Tammy Faye Baker

[ultraist]

91. LMAO!!!

I lived in Charlotte when she first got started and rose to fame. I had a friend whose dad was a CEO or VP or something with their business. WHAT stories he had!!! LOL! Some funky shit went down at their compound...They were also really into brainwashing and cult tactics.

[begin_within]

85. Charo

[lynne]

86. Lucille Ball -

- a brilliant, beautiful woman who gave joy and laughter to generations - and still does.

[Ronnie]

87. Barbara Jordan

...

[ItsThePeopleStupid]

88. I second that

[wadestock]

93. Jane Wyman

She finally got it...Reagan was a rip off.

[tishaLA]

94. Hélène Cixous, Nawal al-Saadawi, Chantal Mouffe

and Eleanor Roosevelt

[lady lib]

95. Elisabeth Kubler-Ross

For teaching us to live our lives fully and not fear death.

[DFLforever]

96. Marie Curie

Lived in the early part of the century, dying in 1934.

Two Nobel prizes, in Physics and Chemistry.

[Canadian Socialist]

106. Dr. Lotta Hitschmanova

a beautiful voice in the wilderness. Founder of the USC.
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=%22lotta+hitschmanova%22&btnG=Search&meta=

[Stinky The Clown]

109. My wife, Sparkly

Witty, caring, smart, insightful.

[LWolf]

110. Some great choices already here.

I don't believe in ranking anything, especially people, as "most" or "best." Here are some 20th century women I think have beautiful minds:

Granny D.
Rosa Parks
Medea Benjamin

It's kind of hard to separate the "mind" from the deeds. How do you tell if someone's mind is beautiful? You listen to their words, then look to see if their words are sincere and honest enough to be backed up by deeds, I guess.

[Gabi Hayes]

111. how on earth could I forget????? Sibel Edmonds!!!!!

just finished listening to this powerful interview from thisishell.com

required listening:

http://server.wnur.org/thisishell/archive/20050122_2.ram

also, her own website

http://www.justacitizen.com/

[indigobusiness]

113. She's a heavyweight contender for the 21st Century

Gotta love that woman.

[Gabi Hayes]

114. very cool prayer wheel.....do you have that black, revolving one?

[indigobusiness]

115. Sibel B. Edmonds

She's definitely a Boudreaux.

[Gabi Hayes]

116. that she is......and the mind wanders along those lines

that's the wheel I was talking about, but I'm sure there's a bigger version

I have it on my old, expired computer; thought I had it here

[indigobusiness]

118. I haven't seen a bigger one.

My old Buttpaste images were lost when my hardrive went tits up.

For that, I grieve.

[Gabi Hayes]

117. oh, I almost forgot.....go here and support this remarkable woman

a TRUE PATRIOT

A TRUE HERO

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3064626

"I am not the President. I am not a Supreme Court judge. I am not a member of Congress.
I am just a citizen, and this is my country. I will speak, and I will be heard."

--Sibel Edmonds
http://www.justacitizen.com/index.htm

[Stop_the_War]

119. Evita Peron

[d_b]

121. Phyllis Schlafly