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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:00 PM
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Has anyone heard of the ** rape charge?
Edited on Fri Feb-04-05 09:00 PM by mordarlar
This was the first i have heard of this.


December 2, 2002 a woman named Margie Schoedinger "committed suicide" with a gunshot wound to the head. (this type of suicide is not as common among men as it is women) This same woman had 9 mos. earlier filed a lawsuit claiming she had been raped by gwb.

http://www.rense.com/general32/CCCIVIL217038-1-7.pdf (the lawsuit doc.)

Many have called her "deranged". Outside of the net her story was only told by a local paper.

After she filed charges....

>>>As a part of their defense, the Sugar Land Police Department conducted a background investigation into Plaintiff's past activities. In the end, this investigation yielded the following information: Plaintiff had seven dates, (which became seven lovers), had told no lies, committed no crimes, gotten 2 traffic tickets and dated George W. Bush as a minor."<<<


http://www.rense.com/general32/charged.htm

In her statement she alleged...

>>>"the Defendant also informed the Plaintiff that his only option to assure his never having to answer for the previous contact would be to simply see Plaintiff pressured to the point of committing suicide"

On Monday September 22, 2003, 38-year-old African-American, Margie Schoedinger was found dead, with an apparent "gunshot wound to the head". The Harris Country Examiner's Office filed the death as a "suicide". Only 9 months after charges are filed, Margie Schoedinger is found dead.<<<

http://www.vestigialconscience.com/BushRapeSuit/who_killed_marg.html

>>>Besides Pravda and Internet ezines - one of whom referred to Schoedinger as "deranged" - I haven't seen stories on this strange death of a woman who filed a rape lawsuit against the U.S. president and wound up dead nine months later. I can't say I'm surprised. Or even angry. I don't know what the hell to think. All I know is I was one of the last - if not the last - reporters to speak to Schoedinger, and she didn't sound "deranged" to me in July 2003. She sounded like someone who had gone through something weird and was trying to sort it out. She sounded like someone who wanted the truth to come out. And now she's dead.

If this had happened to Clinton when he was in the White House, do you think the story would have been covered non-stop on FOX, CNN and the right-wing talk shows? Do you think we'd have reporters asking Clinton and his people about this death in press conferences? Is FOX unfair and imbalanced to the point of being "deranged?"<<<

http://www.moderateindependent.com/v1i15death.htm

>>>In her court petition, Schoedinger said police in Sugar Land, another Houston suburb where she said some assailants linked to Bush attempted to unsuccessfully abduct her from her car shortly before the 2000 election, refused to take a report or do anything about that incident. She filed a lawsuit against the Sugar Land department and said that in preparing its defense, Sugar Land police found out that she dated Bush as a minor. I didn’t get a chance to ask Schoedinger about that tie and didn’t meet her in person, but her driver’s license lists her as being 5-foot-8 and weighing 125 pounds, for what that’s worth.

The Fort Bend Star story quoted a Sugar Land police captain saying his department had no record of any complaints by Schoedinger. All he had to do was what I did – go to the Fort Bend County Internet site and do a simple search on Schoedinger’s name in the area of civil court records. I found the lawsuit Schoedinger filed in December 2000 against Sugar Land police, and it even had numerous responses by the department’s attorneys in that case.

So someone in that department knew about Schoedinger.

Somebody is lying.<<<

>>>But some media members besides me and the Fort Bend Star need to attempt to talk to Schoedinger and investigate this situation. Hello, Houston Chronicle? Hello, 60 Minutes? Hello, 20/20? Hello, Washington Post? Hell, hello, Geraldo Rivera and Jerry Springer?

Do your jobs. Please.

Remember how much you played up Monica Lewinsky’s blow jobs and Paula Jones’ sexual harassment lawsuit against Clinton in the 1990s, while ignoring or downplaying extramarital activities by the hypocritical Republicans who served on Clinton’s impeachment committee like Henry Hyde and Bob Barr? Remember how much you covered Gennifer Flowers’ affair allegations – which did not even include a lawsuit – against Clinton, while ignoring or downplaying affair allegations against more prominent Republicans like Newt Gingrich and Bush Jr.? <<<

snip

>>>Quick now, has anyone heard of Randy Ankeney? He was a rising star in Colorado Republican circles until he was arrested in 2001 and accused of trying to have sex with a 13-year-old girl he met through the Internet. Police said he even warned the girl he’d ruin her life if she told anyone. Does that sound familiar? That’s how many of these Republicans keep their affairs quiet – they threaten a bunch of people. Another 17-year-old girl said Ankeney sexually assaulted her while working on a political campaign. Last year, he pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault of a child.

What about Republican hypocrite John Fund, who was moved to the Wall Street Journal’s Internet magazine after reports came out that he impregnated the daughter of an old girlfriend and then the supposed anti-abortion-supporter looked the other way when she aborted his child? Does Republican Marty Glickman, one of those rabid dog conservative talk radio commentators in Florida who was arrested in 2001 and charged with giving drugs and money to underage girls in exchange for sex, ring a bell?<<<

It could be there is nothing to this story. But the number of suicides around bush is growing and sadly a lot of the things,that before seemed UNBELIEVABLE, are fast becoming the norm.

Interesting side note...when she died she was 38 yrs old. ** is 14 years older. He married Laura in 77. This means either he dated this woman when he was married or she was 10.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:04 PM
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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:06 PM
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3. I have a female relative that died this way but it is less common.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:05 PM
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2. Heard about it about a year or so ago
It's either true or not true. We'll probably never know.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:09 PM
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4. Why would rape matter?
He is already a mass killer.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:17 PM
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5. Exactly.... we're going to need something bigger than this
to get Bush. In Batman Returns, Batman nailed the Penguine with a recording of him saying how he played the pathetic citizens like a fiddle. This is what we need to get Bush, we need solid evidence to show the freepers that Bush could care less about them. You and I know this but these dreamers think Bush is their guy...
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:20 PM
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6. Pfft, they'd spin it, even that video wouldn't be enough.
They'd say the President was a strong leader for "telling it like it is" and not cow-towing to votes. They'd say he was a man of principle.
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:21 PM
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7. I can't remember where I read this, but * was coming on to
a woman (a credible woman) in a bar and he was getting too "fresh" . She said something to the effect of "You don't want me to have to tell the police , do you?" and he said, "who would believe you?" it stuck in my mind as typical of his "privileged status" thinking, but I wish I could remember more details or where I read it, sorry.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:41 PM
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8. Surprise! Someone with dirt on the Bush Crime Family meets with a
sudden and mysterious death. How unusual. <sarcasm up the wazoo>
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 10:06 PM
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9. Sorry
But woman commiting sucide by using a gun to shoot themself in the head just does not seems right. That is more like how a man would do it but not woman.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 10:18 PM
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10. My sister-in-law's sister-in-law killed herself this way.
I also know of a lady who shot herself in the head several times and lived through it. It may not be as common for women to kill themselves this way, but it isn't exactly uncommon, either. Sorry, but the method of suicide isn't exactly a red flag indicating a conspiracy to murder.
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lavenderdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 10:36 PM
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11. mordarlar, I read all the articles you had links to...
and am amazed that this story hasn't received more coverage. Help me to understand what allegedly took place: is Margie saying that the 3 assailants held her/drugged her while Bush raped her? Did he remember her from when they dated when she was a minor and find her again and then rape her? So she was not just a random woman that was assaulted? Also, the papers state that her husband was drugged before her rape and she was drugged AFTER her rape. I am guessing that this occurred so he could not help her. So were the 3 assailants in the room with the two of them (Margie & her husband), drugged her husband, Bush rapes her, then they drug her? Also, from the paperwork, it seemed that there was a pregnancy that resulted from the rape (allegedly Bush's) and was miscarried due to outside pressure she was receiving. But what I also don't understand, it seems to read that she said she wouldn't say anything to anyone, and assured Bush and his cronies of this. Yet they still continue to harass her. Was she bringing the lawsuit because of the rape, lost pregnancy, harassment,etc? Did she have law experience as she is the one who wrote the papers and they seem to have been written by someone who knows something about writing such things. Did her family request any secondary autopsy? Were there gunshot residue tests done on her hands? There's a whole host of questions this case raises... Very interesting and thanks for posting.
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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 11:05 PM
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14. Sadly i do not know much more than you. Apparently...
Edited on Fri Feb-04-05 11:06 PM by mordarlar
the car incident that caused her to sue the police force is separate. This is where three people tried to get her into a car. But i am not sure if i came before or after the other allegations.


Honestly i would have paid this less attention if it had not been for the fact that police CONFIRMED that they had dated. This in itself is concerning. Dating her when she was a minor means he was most likely having some sort of affair with a minor. If she was 16 that would have made him 30. A bit concerning for a relationship to be going on with a minor when there is such a wide age gap.

This fact offered a little credibility to me. She was a victim of sorts to an adult bush when she was a girl. I find it difficult to believe he was seeing a teen during his marriage without the intent of a sexual relationship. And prior to his marriage she was only 10.

It is concerning and it is more concerning that this is so dismissed without any valid investigation.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 10:40 PM
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12. There were a lot of threads on this
a year or more ago when she was making her assertions.

Some reporters went down to interview her.
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RockStar Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 10:56 PM
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13. Bush a murderer, rapist, whats next
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Pork Chop Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 11:18 PM
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15. That's what sucks about being famous
Someone out there is going to claim that you harassed/raped them.
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Carl Brennan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 01:18 AM
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16. Paedophilic repukes, rape, whoring, murder and the BFEE
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 01:27 AM
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17. just go to google and check out Jackson Thoreau.
n/t
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