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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 08:57 PM
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Republicans panic...watch the elephants stampede!
Watch 'em run! Just don't step in anything they leave in their wake!

http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/2005/02/03/ap1804990.html

AP 2/3/05
Republicans Skeptical on Soc. Sec.

President Bush's Social Security proposals stirred fresh political worries Thursday among Republicans and brought calls from some lawmakers to abandon the president's central idea: letting people divert part of their payroll taxes to private retirement accounts.

"I've talked to some of my colleagues and they're panic-stricken," said Rep. Mark Foley, R-Fla., who said he welcomes a serious debate over the sweeping changes Bush outlined in his State of the Union address Wednesday.

"Politically speaking, right now it's probably not doable," said Sen. Pete Domenici, R-N.M., citing lack of Democratic support.

Two House Republicans with years of expertise on Social Security offered an alternate plan, saying the Bush proposal is too politically risky. They suggested bolstering the program with money from general revenues rather than the payroll tax.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 08:59 PM
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1. Let's hunt 'em down and take their ivory ! Get 'em on record supporting
Bush's SS privatization plan. Then we start taking scalps !
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NGU Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 08:59 PM
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2. But...but * has a mandate! n/t
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 09:05 PM
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5. From the people yet!
:grr:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 09:23 PM
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8. And don't forget
he's going to spend it! HAHA!
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 09:02 PM
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3. Dems should pounce on this as an example of how the Repugs
aren't working for Americans, but for corporations.

Economic meltdown should be the main domestic theme of the Dems. If they piece it all together, what's been done and what they GOP wants to do, it comes to econmic meltdown for the middle and working classes....
Think about it.
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 09:54 PM
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13. Yes indeed
The biggest threats to the economic security of all Americans is an out of control corporate health care insurance system, corporate accounting and securities fraud, the outsourcing of American jobs in a race to the bottom for wages and benefits to maximize corporate profits, and a exploding national debt caused by reckless tax cuts to the rich and corporations.

Problems the Republicans are doing absolutely nothing about. Now if we can just get the Democrats to grab this bull by the horns we'll be in business.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 09:04 PM
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4. The Bush SS plan has to be exposed for the fraud that it is....
....we need the Brookings Institute folks to ram through a clear and logical report ASAP to show that anything where 4% is sucked off the top and private managements fees are deducted, and long run stock investment risks are factored in, is a clear failure. Voodoo investment and ownership, just like his dad Poppa Bush tried to ram Voodoo economics through and almost succeeded.
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 09:58 PM
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14. oops!
Actually, it was Reagan with the voodoo economic plan. Poppy actually coined that term during the 1980 Republican primaries to criticize Reagan!

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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 10:18 PM
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16. Hey, you are correct, brain fart, but he used Reaganomics....
...during the Gulf War with total failure because he raised taxes rather than run enormous deficts. His boy shrub though ran full speed ahead and spent 2.5 trillion more that he took in in four years.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 09:20 PM
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6. SOTU Address honeymoon over: Hour 22. Gee, that's too bad.
Looks like the Chimperor lost another one to Daico.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 09:22 PM
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7. oh i guess they're starting to worry about mid-term elections
they know his proposals are shit.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 09:32 PM
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11. Election cycle to election cycle
Too bad the rank and file repubs don't get the disconnect between what their leaders say to get elected and what they actually do once elected. :shrug: Keep voting against yourselves repubs for your self serving self absorbed one sided so called "values"! Yeah that works so well for ya! :dunce:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 09:25 PM
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9. I hope they tramble each other!
:bounce:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 09:33 PM
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12. I hope they trample each other that is
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 09:27 PM
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10. Time to start taking names
I'm going to love the look on the chimp's face when his mandate vanishes into thin air in 2006. Time to go headhunting people ;).
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Stirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 10:16 PM
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15. I hope Bush's pig-headed nature holds up.
Edited on Thu Feb-03-05 10:16 PM by Stirk
If the Republicans in Congress refuse to get on board, and Bush refuses admit defeat, we could watch them slog through months of talk on an issue that hurts them badly.

As long as they don't pass this fraud, of course.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 10:21 PM
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17. Awesome thread title! LOL!!!!
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 10:30 PM
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18. If this is how they feel,
then what the hell was all that clapping and cheering last night when Bush was talking about it? I want to see pictures of Foley and Domenici clapping and giving their grand puhbah an ovation over the very thing they now say is too risky.
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