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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 11:07 AM
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NPR won't let Firesign Theatre do anti-Bush material
This from the end of a Mercury News report on the Firesign Theatre's comeback:
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/entertainment/performing_arts/10780511.htm

... And for those who think that Firesign has mellowed to a cheery glow, (Phil) Proctor offers the following story: ``We were doing NPR's `All Things Considered'' show, and they wouldn't let us do our very political material which made fun of Bush and our, um, misadventures in Iraq.''

The show's producer, according to Proctor, said, ``Oh, this isn't funny.''

Which is what people always say, he adds, ``when they're afraid of the material.''
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ramapo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 11:09 AM
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1. I gave up on NPR
No more money for them, they've become part of the corporate media.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 11:16 AM
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2. Is There A CD Available?
A typical response...and a shame. I'm a 30 plus year Proctor & Bergman fan and glad to hear they're still going at it.

Is there a link to this interview or any other info?

Thanks!

Shoes For Industry

P.S. - I strongly suggest listening to "TV or Not TV"...recorded in 1973...see if Channel 85 isn't today's world.

Cheers
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 11:34 AM
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8. Shoes for the Dead !!!
hi, i'm joe beets ...
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 11:38 AM
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9. I watched the cheap 16mm film of it the other day... you're right -
Edited on Tue Feb-01-05 11:40 AM by thebigidea
it does seem awfully, typically decades-ahead-of-their-time of them, hmm?

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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 11:16 AM
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3. is it still legal to make fun of the 'president'?
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 11:19 AM
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4. Stop donating to NPR!
Cut them off by their balls!

:grr:
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 12:34 PM
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14. I stopped donating to them
Why fund your oppressors?
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clem_c_rock Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 11:19 AM
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5. As I've said before, NPR is one of them
I'm always suprized as to how many people think NPR is a spin-free oasis of great journalism;
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 02:09 PM
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17. They used to be, until the late 90s.
And in the last two years they've completely nose-dived.

Worse than no news at all.

It's pathetic to hear the public radio fund-drives around here: no ringing phones, no nothing. "Well, we've lost membership over the last few years..." one guy admitted. Wonder why???
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 11:21 AM
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6. agh! new live shows! agh! alert! agh!
I love the fact that even though they've been working together regularly for the past ten years or so, each release is greeted as another "comeback."
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 11:30 AM
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7. Ah, Clem
Edited on Tue Feb-01-05 11:32 AM by welshTerrier2
PRESIDENT: A popular ride in the {FUTURE FAIR}. You get to ask a
question of the computer-operated President, and get a free simulfax
copy of your question, together with his answer. {CLEM} broke the
President by asking him about {PORRIDGE BIRD}s.

interesting snip from a December, 1998 interview with Phil Proctor:

We like to deal with the aspects of power and politics itself, instead of the outward manifestation of it, because there will always be another President. It's about the power of the Presidency. That's what the nature of this entire political even right now is about--the power of the Presidency. The Republicans are basically trying to take away the power the Democrats have of the Presidency, because the Republicans have a majority in the House and the Senate. They want to wrest-back the power the President has taken in controlling the middle of the road, politically. That's why they've become so radicalized, because this President is much more of a Moderate than he is a Liberal Democrat. No matter how much they try to deface him by calling him a Liberal Democrat, it's really ludicrous. The whole idea of calling the media a Liberal controlled media is ludicrous now. It's ludicrous! The media is almost entirely controlled, it seems to me, by the right wing. I can't even listen to talk radio locally anymore because you don't get any other opinions. I listen to radio and read newspapers, and live life because I'm challenged by other people's opinions. If I recognize a monolithic state of mind, I turn it off. I just don't watch anymore. I know what they're going to say. Rush Limbaugh is a shill for himself, but he's an interesting character. Now, Howard Stern is a monkey. He represents the anarchism. I admire what Stern does, although I think that the way that he does it is often reprehensible! But I admire the spirit of his art. He's a maverick, and he makes fun of people in high places. He is the guy that says the Emperor has no clothes. Again, it's no boundaries. He's able to exist because there are no boundaries and there is no privacy anymore. And that's why there are the Jerry Springers and Real TV, and the blah, blah, blah, blah . . . all of that. But, basically, what disturbs me is that in local radio they've taken off the liberal voices, like Michael Jackson, because they couldn't compete financially with the audience Limbaugh was getting. What they've done is they've replaced him on local stations with similar right wing puppets--with people who articulate the right wing philosophy. So now you go from station to station to station, and there's basically like three major talk radio stations, and they're all babbling right wing philosophies. So, you seldom, if ever, get a Liberal perspective, or just a different perspective. That's boring! So I end up not listening to any of them. Not only because there's nothing to listen to in that regard--there's nothing exciting in terms of debate--but because I already know what they're going to say. They've been saying it ever since Clinton got into office, they've been attacking him, and it's just the same-old, same-old. So, why listen? It doesn't make me feel any better. There's nothing new to be said that hasn't been said already. I'd much rather read the paper and see what's really happening, or what's supposedly happened. So, when you get into politics, you're getting into a lot of opinion, and you're getting into a lot of bipolarization. You're getting into a lot of areas that tend to divide us instead of get us together.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 01:43 PM
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16. Hey Pablo! He broke the President!
As far as is known: The male porridge bird does not lay eggs, in the air or otherwise.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 11:39 AM
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10. Imperial Amerika is SUCH a Soviet Place
Everybody afraid to speak out.

Hey, at least they have to pretend to respect individual Free Speech for a little while longer to Maintain te Illusion of Constitutional Liberty.

But for anyone with a megaphone that might reach 100,000 people or more, it's a nonviolent, yet still Soviet, fear.

Or as the Nazis called it, Amerikan Press has been taken throughthe process of "bringing into line", with great success for the Totalitarians.

http://www.uni-bonn.de/Aktuelles/Pressemitteilungen/pm/pm0303a-01.htm
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 11:50 AM
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11. More Sugar!!!!!
I love those guys!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 12:02 PM
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12. There's a whole dead cat in every bar of dead cat soap
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 12:32 PM
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13. what does NPR know about what's "funny?"
what does the network of the atrocious "Capital Steps" know about funny?
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 12:36 PM
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15. I stopped giving to NPR about a year ago
i no longer listen to them at all.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 02:28 PM
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19. One of my local NPR stations is doing a fund drive only 3 months after the
last one. Usually, they have them every six months.

They're saying on the air that they're not getting the donations they used to.

The national NPR programming is so much like MSM now that I suspect local affiliates are really suffering (why pay to hear what you get everywhere else?).


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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 02:19 PM
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18. Say, what's all this brou-ha-ha?
Brou-ha-ha?
ha-ha....
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 10:54 PM
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20. Everything You Know Is Wrong.
"Honey. They're in everybody's eggs."

So... NPR Fears Bushler?
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