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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 11:10 AM
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How does ANY truth exist when ALL reporters are imbedded.
Think about it, we know how skewed the news within this 'democratic free country' of ours is, how will we ever know the numbers from Iraq?? The international observers 'observed' from outside Iraq, so what did they 'observe' ??????
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 11:12 AM
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1. All news is skewed, period. Think Rashomon.
Which is why the development of critical thinking skills is so important.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 11:19 AM
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2. Exactly!
The Canadian rep who is there is in Jordan, not Iraq. He 'confirms' the election turnout was big. How the hell does he know that? Fact is, he is taking the word of the corrupt puppets and has lost any credibility in my eyes.

Possibly there was an observer at ONE poll and the turnout there was 72% ergo the election turnout was 72%. What a pile of crap.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 11:26 AM
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5. Peter Jennings was there. One province 72%. One 4%.
Guess which number they pounced on?????
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 11:30 AM
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8. Yep, and the US media is showing happy, happy...
voters from the Kurdish area where it was safer yet they are portraying those pics as from all around Iraq. Same old crap, different day. One must compliment them in their consistency in maintaining the lie.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 11:22 AM
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3. International Media beware of * running elections, fraud everywhere
I am sure of it. I do not trust * or this adminstration because I am no longer their fool. Fool me once fool on you, fool me twice fool on me, or something like that.

:kick:
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 11:24 AM
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4. US reporters can't leave the Green Zone.
Any interviews are arranged and any photos are photo ops under tight security.

Fortunately, the truth will leak out from the foreign press. We'll see it -- but the rest of America won't.
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 11:28 AM
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6. Look at the reports the mainstream ignores...
Still won't be exact. I think the best one came out just before the election so I'd see what they do for updates.

But you know as long as we realize that every death under this unjust cause matters and gives us reason to clean up the mess here at home so they can't spread it, the exact numbers aren't as important as what we do about there being unjust deaths at all.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 11:29 AM
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7. Not all reporters are "imbedded". Look for Dahr Jamail, Robert Fisk,
Cockburn and Parenti. They are there and they are not "imbedded".
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 11:45 AM
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9. Have you ever wondered what percentage of EMBEDS are...
CIA operatives?

I became aware of the embed-CIA connection when a local radio reporter was asked to be an 'embed.' When the invasion went down, he was immediately stationed on a oil field access road. His attachment was tasked with guarding the oil while innocent Iraqis were being slaughtered.

When the "embed" made it back to the states to tell the story, he conveniently forgot about the oil field missions. But his live radio reports -- which were made at the risk of removing his gas mask -- tell the true story. Go figure.

Had you forgotten about those gas masks that scared the fuck out of America? The "embeds" sure have. I guess there's some things that embeds just don't talk about any more.
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