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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:01 AM
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Microwaving Iraq: 'Pacifying' Rays Pose New Hazards
Edited on Tue Jan-25-05 11:02 AM by Minstrel Boy
Microwaving Iraq
"Pacifying" Rays Pose New Hazards In Iraq

by William Thomas

On the rooftop of a shrapnel-pocked building in the ruins of Fallujah, a team of GI's stealthily sets up a gray plastic dome about two-feet in diameter. Keeping well back from the sight lines of the street and nearby buildings, they plug the cable connectors on the side of the "popper" into a power unit. The grunts have no clue what the device does. They are just following orders.

"Most of the worker-bees that are placing these do not even know what is inside the 'domes', just that they were told where to place them by Intel weenies with usually no nametag," reports my source, a very well informed combat veteran I will call "Hank". The grunts call the plastic devices "poppers" or "domes". Once activated, each hidden transmitter emits a widening circle of invisible energy capable of passing through metal, concrete and human skulls up to half a mile away. "They are saturating the area with ULF, VLF and UHF freqs," Hanks says, with equipment derived from US Navy undersea sonar and communications.

...

Hank also blames those at the top for hospital counts of upwards of 65,000 children killed since the 2003 invasion. He is concerned that innocent Iraqi families and unsuspecting GIs alike are being used as test subjects for a new generation of "psychotronic" weapons using invisible beams across the entire electromagnetic spectrum to selectively alter moods, behavior and bodily processes.

"The 'poppers' are capable of using a combo of ULF, VLF, UHF and EHF wavelengths in any combination at the same time, sometimes using one as a carrier wave for the others," Hank explains, in a process called superheterodyning. The silent frequencies daily sweeping Fallujah and other trouble spots are the same Navy "freqs that drove whales nuts and made them go astray onto beaches."

http://www.rense.com/general62/mciro.htm
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:05 AM
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1. Yep, I am ready
I got my tinfoil lined baseball cap ready in case they try this at home.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:24 AM
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8. won't help ya....remember HR 2977 "Space Preservation Act of 2001"?......
it addresses this weapon and also "tectonic weapons" scroll down to:
<snip>
(III) by expelling chemical or biological agents in the vicinity of a person.

(B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as--

(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;

(ii) chemtrails;

(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;

(iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;

(v) laser weapons systems;

(vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and

(vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons.
www.fas.org/sgp/congress/2001/hr2977.html
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

HR 2977 IH


107th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 2977
To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.


IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

October 2, 2001
Mr. KUCINICH introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Science, and in addition to the Committees on Armed Services, and International Relations, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


A BILL
To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.


Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Space Preservation Act of 2001'.

SEC. 2. REAFFIRMATION OF POLICY ON THE PRESERVATION OF PEACE IN SPACE.

Congress reaffirms the policy expressed in section 102(a) of the National Aeronautics and Space Act of 1958 (42 U.S.C. 2451(a)), stating that it `is the policy of the United States that activities in space should be devoted to peaceful purposes for the benefit of all mankind.'.

SEC. 3. PERMANENT BAN ON BASING OF WEAPONS IN SPACE.

The President shall--

(1) implement a permanent ban on space-based weapons of the United States and remove from space any existing space-based weapons of the United States; and

(2) immediately order the permanent termination of research and development, testing, manufacturing, production, and deployment of all space-based weapons of the United States and their components.

SEC. 4. WORLD AGREEMENT BANNING SPACE-BASED WEAPONS.

The President shall direct the United States representatives to the United Nations and other international organizations to immediately work toward negotiating, adopting, and implementing a world agreement banning space-based weapons.

SEC. 5. REPORT.

The President shall submit to Congress not later than 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, and every 90 days thereafter, a report on--

(1) the implementation of the permanent ban on space-based weapons required by section 3; and

(2) progress toward negotiating, adopting, and implementing the agreement described in section 4.

SEC. 6. NON SPACE-BASED WEAPONS ACTIVITIES.

Nothing in this Act may be construed as prohibiting the use of funds for--

(1) space exploration;

(2) space research and development;

(3) testing, manufacturing, or production that is not related to space-based weapons or systems; or

(4) civil, commercial, or defense activities (including communications, navigation, surveillance, reconnaissance, early warning, or remote sensing) that are not related to space-based weapons or systems.

SEC. 7. DEFINITIONS.

In this Act:

(1) The term `space' means all space extending upward from an altitude greater than 60 kilometers above the surface of the earth and any celestial body in such space.

(2)(A) The terms `weapon' and `weapons system' mean a device capable of any of the following:

(i) Damaging or destroying an object (whether in outer space, in the atmosphere, or on earth) by--

(I) firing one or more projectiles to collide with that object;

(II) detonating one or more explosive devices in close proximity to that object;

(III) directing a source of energy (including molecular or atomic energy, subatomic particle beams, electromagnetic radiation, plasma, or extremely low frequency (ELF) or ultra low frequency (ULF) energy radiation) against that object; or

(IV) any other unacknowledged or as yet undeveloped means.

(ii) Inflicting death or injury on, or damaging or destroying, a person (or the biological life, bodily health, mental health, or physical and economic well-being of a person)--

(I) through the use of any of the means described in clause (i) or subparagraph (B);

(II) through the use of land-based, sea-based, or space-based systems using radiation, electromagnetic, psychotronic, sonic, laser, or other energies directed at individual persons or targeted populations for the purpose of information war, mood management, or mind control of such persons or populations; or

(III) by expelling chemical or biological agents in the vicinity of a person.

(B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as--

(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;

(ii) chemtrails;

(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;

(iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;

(v) laser weapons systems;

(vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and

(vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons.

(C) The term `exotic weapons systems' includes weapons designed to damage space or natural ecosystems (such as the ionosphere and upper atmosphere) or climate, weather, and tectonic systems with the purpose of inducing damage or destruction upon a target population or region on earth or in space.




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tubbacheez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:28 AM
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10. Ever microwave something wrapped in foil? Not pretty. n/t
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:46 AM
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18. Too late-different weapon (Sound), used in iraq but ALSO IN US
Edited on Tue Jan-25-05 11:47 AM by liveoaktx
How about the *Sound cannon* that shoots ear-piercing sound saves at people? I first read about it in the LATimes in the last couple of years, here's a link to an article about it http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/ptech/03/03/sonic.weapon.ap/

Think this was ONLY used in Iraq? Nope, it next showed up during the RNC NYC protests.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5841974/
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:05 AM
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2. Info on those were leaked in 2003
And they are in fact weapons of indiscriminate destruction and illegal.

But hey, America doesn't give a shit 'bout no stinkin' laws!
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:09 AM
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3. Also posted at rense.com >


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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:19 AM
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6. I'm not sure what your point is.
Rense is a portal. Some stuff is good, some stuff is not. The stories need to be judged on their own merits, and the quality of the source, not the host.

The author is William Thomas. I provided the link to his site, though this article is not yet posted there.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:23 AM
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7. My point is I don't trust Rense as a source
But I take your point that some of his stuff may be good while some is not -
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:37 AM
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13. Rense can be indiscriminate. I would have preferred
to provide a link to the author's own site, but he hasn't posted the story there yet. If I see something interesting on Rense, I always want to go to the source.

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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:26 AM
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9. There are several other respectable links about this. Google for them.
In particular, check out the UN site and how very unhappy they are about the USA coming up with yet more weapons of indiscriminate destruction and with no international discussion first.

Or several human rights NGOs have articles about the subject and how young kids and the eldery are at risk of death from this and from the other new US toy, the high-pitch scream waves.

So you & your kid are at the park on a sunny afternoon and a riot is going on 4 blocks away. And your kid drops dead and you're deaf the rest of your life because you happened to be with the radius.

That's why the international community is very unhappy about these new toys.
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:35 AM
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12. Here's one from the UK Telegraph
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/09/19/wirq319.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/09/19/ixworld.html

Microwave weapons that cause pain without lasting injury are to be issued to American troops in Iraq for the first time as concern mounts over the growing number of civilians killed in fighting.

The non-lethal weapons, which use high-powered electromagnetic beams, will be fitted to vehicles already in Iraq, which will allow the system to be introduced as early as next year.

Using technology similar to that found in a conventional microwave oven, the beam rapidly heats water molecules in the skin to cause intolerable pain and a burning sensation. The invisible beam penetrates the skin to a depth of less than a millimetre. As soon as the target moves out of the beam's path, the pain disappears.

Because there are no after-effects, the United States Department of Defence believes that the weapons will be particularly useful in urban conflict. The beam could be used to scatter large crowds in which insurgents operate at close quarters to both troops and civilians.

"The skin gets extremely hot, and people can't stand the pain, so they have to move - and move in the way we want them to," said Col Wade Hall of the Office of Force Transformation, a body formed in November 2001 to promote rapid improvement across all of the American armed services.

......
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:42 AM
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15. 1. Except there ARE lethal and lasting effects.
2. And for those caught in the beam (which is at least a 1/2 MILE radius) and CAN'T get out of the path? They die an agonizing death by burning.

3. How about the eldery? Crippled? Pregnant women? Babies? How do they move out of the path?

4. How does anyone know which way to run to get out of the path, especially the "collateral damage" victims who aren't being specifically targetted? You're out hanging up laundry and suddenly your skin is burning & causing pain you can't stand. Which way do you run and will you make the right choice soon enough to avoid burning to death?

5. Effects can be fatal, especially for the very young and the elderly; their brains fry.

6. The slightest error by the troops manning the weapon and it's mass BBQ time.
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:49 AM
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19. Yup. It's ironic-I was listening to Dick Lugar a bit ago
and he was glowingly talking about the Bush administration's efforts to get rid of missile stockpiles and WMD,etc.

Well, WTF are these horrific new weapons and why is the US not only developing these but also USING them on our own people?
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:12 AM
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4. I'm sure city pacification devices will be useful when the time comes
to "bring the war home".
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:50 AM
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20. They are already using pacification devices here-see above
on the *sound cannon* that the NYC police were trained on to use during the protests.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:14 AM
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5. yup this is what has killed the whales andt he poor things trying to...
escape the agony caused them by these insedious weapon tests under the sea had to leave the water seeking relief on land....jesus :cry:
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:35 AM
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11. the purpose of these "poppers": to prevent ALL cell phones from operating
during the iraqi elections sunday to prevent car bombs from being exploded via cell phones or electronic device...i heard this discussed on some talking head show a few days ago.
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hector459 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:41 AM
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14. All I can say is that two soldiers who returned from Iraq have murdered
someone and it has been in the news. The Wal-Mart kinapper/murder and the one just outside Wash DC where an Iraqi soldier killed his grandmother. I wonder how many other murders have been committed by former Iraqi servicemen and just not reported?
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:45 AM
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16. upon return from war...5 Ft Bragg soldiers killed their wives in 2 months
Edited on Tue Jan-25-05 12:19 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
blamed on stress but is yet being investigated

www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/07/26/national/main516500.shtml amn

Five killings this summer involving couples at Fort Bragg were probably due to existing marital problems and the stress of separation while soldiers are away on duty, Army investigators said Thursday.

But the investigators also said military culture discourages soldiers and their families from seeking help when domestic problems can potentially be resolved.

The conclusions were in the summary of a report from a 19-member team, including mental and physical health workers and military clergy, who visited the base in August and September.


this is insane crazy shit
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hector459 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:57 AM
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21. Four? Gee...I guess I missed that.
I wonder what a little searching of the media across country would yield, especially those small town papers and their obits?
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 11:46 AM
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17. Uhm. E/M waves isn't the same as sound (sonar) waves,
no matter how hard you try.

UHF, VHF etc are Electro-Magnetic waves (aka radio waves, cell-phone, micro-wave, radar, light - it's all the same just different frequencies).

What the whales suffer from is not radio waves but sonar; audio-waves in water.

The two are fundametaly different.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-25-05 01:36 PM
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22. There are lots of weapons under development
During Gulf War I -- a friend was working on a military base that develops and tests new weapons.

At the time there were photos of dead Iraqi that looked like they had been charred -- but their vehicle seems untouched. These photos can still be found on the Internet -- the highway of death.

So I asked my friend -- was he aware of weapons that could do this sort of damage to humans. Apparently weapons like this do exist -- and the military is always spoiling for a real live testing ground for new weapons -- and weapons delivery systems.

What he told me wasn't classified -- the general concept of weapons development -- killing the people while leaving structures intact. What is classified are the details -- but a whole lot of money is being sunk into weapons research. Each branch of the military is funding their own research. My friend knew about the Navy's research -- he said that the other military branches also had extensive weapons development programs.

Some of the eye witness reports are from people who are unsophisticated in weapons -- other than traditional weapons that seem to be efficient people killers -- however the more we listen to the victims on location -- and compare what they witnessed we are going to get an inventory of the sort of weapons our tax dollars are paying for.

Wasn't yesterday that bushie called the anti choice right wingers and claiming to "respect" life -- and women and their unborn whatevers". He should have added -- except for the dark skinned people who have the nerve to live where his oil is.
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