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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 05:45 PM
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Anyone hear anything about the OSP (Pentagon Office Of Special Plans) ?
The recent story: "Pentagon Operating Secret Spy Branch"
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0124-01.htm
prompted me to wonder, "wassup with the OSP?" Anyone know anything about the status of the OSP (Pentagon Office Of Special Plans)
and if there are connections to Rummy's Spy Branch?


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http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2004/01/12_405.html

The Lie Factory

Late last year, a special Mother Jones investigation detailed how, only weeks after 9/11, the Bush administration set up a secret Pentagon unit to create the case for invading Iraq. Here is the inside story of how they pushed disinformation and bogus intelligence and led the nation to war.

By Robert Dreyfuss and Jason Vest

January/February 2004 Issue

It's a crisp fall day in western Virginia, a hundred miles from Washington, D.C., and a breeze is rustling the red and gold leaves of the Shenandoah hills. On the weather-beaten wood porch of a ramshackle 90-year-old farmhouse, at the end of a winding dirt-and-gravel road, Lt. Colonel Karen Kwiatkowski is perched on a plastic chair, wearing shorts, a purple sweatshirt, and muddy sneakers. Two scrawny dogs and a lone cat are on the prowl, and the air is filled with swarms of ladybugs.

So far, she says, no investigators have come knocking. Not from the Central Intelligence Agency, which conducted an internal inquiry into intelligence on Iraq, not from the congressional intelligence committees, not from the president's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board. All of those bodies are ostensibly looking into the Bush administration's prewar Iraq intelligence, amid charges that the White House and the Pentagon exaggerated, distorted, or just plain lied about Iraq's links to Al Qaeda terrorists and its possession of nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons. In her hands, Kwiatkowski holds several pieces of the puzzle. Yet she, along with a score of other career officers recently retired or shuffled off to other jobs, has not been approached by anyone.

Kwiatkowski, 43, a now-retired Air Force officer who served in the Pentagon's Near East and South Asia (NESA) unit in the year before the invasion of Iraq, observed how the Pentagon's Iraq war-planning unit manufactured scare stories about Iraq's weapons and ties to terrorists. "It wasn't intelligence‚ -- it was propaganda," she says. "They'd take a little bit of intelligence, cherry-pick it, make it sound much more exciting, usually by taking it out of context, often by juxtaposition of two pieces of information that don't belong together." It was by turning such bogus intelligence into talking points for U.S. officials‚ -- including ominous lines in speeches by President Bush and Vice President Cheney, along with Secretary of State Colin Powell's testimony at the U.N. Security Council last February‚ -- that the administration pushed American public opinion into supporting an unnecessary war.

Until now, the story of how the Bush administration produced its wildly exaggerated estimates of the threat posed by Iraq has never been revealed in full. But, for the first time, a detailed investigation by Mother Jones, based on dozens of interviews‚ -- some on the record, some with officials who insisted on anonymity‚ -- exposes the workings of a secret Pentagon intelligence unit and of the Defense Department's war-planning task force, the Office of Special Plans. It's the story of a close-knit team of ideologues who spent a decade or more hammering out plans for an attack on Iraq and who used the events of September 11, 2001, to set it into motion.

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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 05:49 PM
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1. There's another post on DU about this. Rummy has his own group.
Seems he's got a secret investigative group, outside the CIA, Congressional oversite, and responsible to no one.

Sorry, I don't know how to find the other link while I'm posting to thin one.

It wasn't posted very long ago, so you should find it if you look.
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 06:06 PM
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2. Very fun shockwave on OSP at 'too stupid to be president'
Too Stupid to be President has many clever and hilarious videos:

My favorite was always "Rumsfeld", which is a parody of "Seinfeld". In the opening stand up routine, Rummy discusses the "Office of Special Plans".

Rumsfeld
http://www.toostupidtobepresident.com/shockwave/rumsfeld.htm

Many more vids at this site.

Too Stupid to be President
http://www.toostupidtobepresident.com/

(there are two "Rumsfeld" pieces, the one on OSP is the one farther down on the page.)
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 06:50 PM
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3. haven't had a chance to check it out yet
but thanks! :hi:
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DrGonzoLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 07:15 PM
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4. Yep
Rummy and Dick's way of doing an end-around the CIA, who like to do things like actually analyze intelligence for veracity.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 07:18 PM
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5. What do you want to know about the OSP or Douglas Feith?
We've covered this pretty well over the years. Here are some relevant links.

Seymour Hersh on "The Cabal" (OSP)
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?030512fa_fact

Pentagon Muzzles CIA
http://www.prospect.org/print/V13/22/dreyfuss-r.html

Iraq Survey Group-Donald Rumsfeld's al Qaeda
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/070904Stanton-Madsen/070904stanton-madsen.html

Complete Timeline of the 2003 Invasion of Iraq: Douglas Feith's Pentagon Offices
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_timeline_of_the_2003_invasion_of_iraq&iraq_themes=officeOfSpecialPlans
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 07:27 PM
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6. I have read some of this
Edited on Mon Jan-24-05 07:31 PM by G_j
I was specifically wondering if anything may have possibly leaked out about what they are doing lately (Iran?) and if Rumsfeld's Spy group is an arm of the OSP.

on edit: reading the Hersh article now! excellent, thanks!!


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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 07:37 PM
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7. "US making secret plans to attack sites in Iran" (Independent)
Edited on Mon Jan-24-05 07:41 PM by bobthedrummer
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=601963

The New Pentagon Papers by Karen Kwiatkowski
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/KWI403A.html

Despite Thin Intelligence Reports US Plans To Overthrow Iranian Regime
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/LEO305C.html
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 07:41 PM
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8. thanks again
great links, thanks! I'll have plenty to read tonight.

I had actually just written to Karen asking her about the Rumsfeld spy story.
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