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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 09:25 PM
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About that hand sign Shrub and Mrs. Shrub do
Go to this site, it's slow loading..then scroll down on the right side of the screen you'll see it.

<http://www.artsakhworld.com/Eng/Haji-petros/Oldmistakes.htm>

Then google Azerbaijan Chamber of Commerce..you'll find some familiar names.
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 09:27 PM
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1. Occult Analysis of the Photo by Researcher Michael A. Hoffman II
Here's an analysis by Michael A. Hoffman II, noted researcher into secret societies, the occult, and their influence in politics.

January 20, 2005
The Rule of Satan Made Manifest
The devil's horns: 1/20/05 and it's authentic


The ancient symbol of the devil's disciple--the devil's horns--publicly brandished in modern times most notoriously by heavy metal rockers, has now been displayed by our great "Christian" prez in this internationally-circulated photograph from his inauguration:

Brazen Presidential Satanism like this (as shown in the Reuters photo at the preceding URL), is a clear indicator that the System believes it has the situation so locked down that it can reveal it's true nature, symbolically, from time to time, in public.

The doses of revelation will increase in the months ahead as the
programming accelerates. For the game plan, read Arthur C. Clarke's seminal handbook, "Childhood's End." It was Clarke who predicted that revelations would become flagrant and the alchemical control process locked down beginning in 2001.

Admiral John Poindexter's supercharged, "Illuminati"
pyramid/All-Seeing-Eye symbol designed for DARPA in the Pentagon, and George Bush's Hellfire Club "masquerader's jest" in March 2004 at the press club dinner (go to https://www.moveonpac.org/donate/doesntgetit.html# and click on the link under the tiny TV set on the right), prepared the Group Mind for the Bush hand signal made today before the whole world, at his Second Inauguration.

The reign of Satan has officially commenced -- in the name of Jesus Christ.


About Michael A. Hoffman II:
The obscure Michael A. Hoffman II is boycotted by Right and Left; revisionists and religious; New Agers and conservatives.

He is seriously underfunded, militantly hounded, banned from the Establishment media, blacklisted in the publishing industry, exiled to Idaho and constantly threatened with death while teetering on the verge of insolvency, even as he manages to consistently disseminate the most accurate counter-intelligence on the epistemology of the Cryptocracy available anywhere.

In July of 2001, two months prior to 9/11, Hoffman published the extended edition of his book, "Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare" (revised in April of 2001 and printed in July), warning of Clarke's prediction that 2001 would be the iron gateway to the Cryptocracy's new aeon of what Antonin Artaud had profiled decades before as open-air, "civic Satanism".


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Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare
http://www.revisionisthistory.org/cgi-bin/store/agora.cgi?p_id=18

CD -The Double-Mind in Occult Philosophy
http://www.revisionisthistory.org/cgi-bin/store/agora.cgi?p_id=10007

The Masqueraders' Jest
http://www.revisionisthistory.org/cgi-bin/store/agora.cgi?p_id=10003

Skull and Bones "Christianity"
http://www.revisionisthistory.org/cgi-bin/store/agora.cgi?p_id=10002

Witches and Rabbis: Legacy of the Reagan White House
http://www.revisionisthistory.org/cgi-bin/store/agora.cgi?p_id=10004

Blood on the Altar: The Secret History of the World's Most Dangerous
Secret Society
http://www.revisionisthistory.org/cgi-bin/store/agora.cgi?p_id=10009

Revisionist History newsletter: The Cryptocracy vs. The Neocons http://www.revisionisthistory.org/cgi-bin/store/agora.cgi?p_id=10008

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The HOFFMAN WIRE is a public service of Independent History and Research, Box 849, Coeur d'Alene, Idaho 83816 USA

24 Hour Revisionist News Bureau: http://www.revisionisthistory.org/news.html
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 09:33 PM
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3. Some public spirited citizen must post this in Freeperland ASAP
what a fascinating and (I'm sure) more truthful article than you usually read over there. They should be told all about their Dark Lor...I mean President!
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 09:43 PM
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12. Really need this article at FR: Bush Policies analyzed by Bible Scholar
Scathing Critique of Bush and Religious Right by Bible Scholar

This is the ammunition the Religious Left needs to lay bare the hypocrisy of Bush and the Religious Right and their very unchristian agenda.

The Blood Guilty Churches
Why Bush’s Agenda Is Immoral and an Abomination to God
By Katherine Yurica
http://yuricareport.com/Religion/TheBloodGuiltyChurches.html

This article touches on most every issue of significance in the Bush/Religious Right agenda, and provides a scathing critique of Bush and of the churches that support him.

excerpt:

"George W. Bush, his administration, the Republican controlled congress as well as the Republican Party itself, and most of the churches in America (including evangelical, Southern Baptist, Pentecostal and Roman Catholic), stand indicted—not by men—not by this writer—but by the very Holy Scriptures the religious-right and Mr. Bush profess to uphold."

"Weighed against the Bible, the Bush actions are not only morally corrupt—they are unchristian and unbiblical to the core."

"In this essay, the Bush agenda is weighed on the scale of God’s standards and it is found wanting."


http://yuricareport.com/Religion/TheBloodGuiltyChurches.html


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fleabert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 09:50 PM
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18. now this info I can possibly agree with. nt
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 09:47 PM
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16. Michael Hoffman is a worthless piece of Nazi filth. Why are you stinking
up DU with his garbage?
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 12:16 AM
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30. I do not endorse all of ANYONE'S views. Hoffman often writes insightful
speculative essays. Many of his works are immensely interesting and strikingly original analysis of current events. His perspective is very unique, and his articles are always very thought provoking.

I also very much enjoy the works of H.P. Lovecraft and C.G Jung, both of whom sometimes displayed shocking and repugnant antisemitism and racism in their writings.

I don't LIKE the fact that that stuff is there - it makes me uncomfortable when I come across things like that...but the fact that it is there does not negate or diminish the contributions each author has made to the literature in their respective fields. Nor is it a reason to smear, despise, and attempt to suppress all of their writings.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 10:41 PM
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28. This guy is a Neo Nazi, holocaust denying Aryan Nations member
Why would anyone give any credability to his twisted views?
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 12:19 AM
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31. See my post #30 above, for my take on Hoffman et. al.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 08:51 PM
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39. He sometimes writes stuff other than hate literature?
Is this supposed to make me feel better about a Nazi freak? It doesn't.

I was once targetted with death threats by these holocaust denying, white supremacist neo-Nazis just for daring to express my views and criticize this repulsive excuse for a man whom you choose to defend on DU.

Hoffman supporters threatened to cut my womb open because I was a mixed blood "mud person" who didn't deserve to live in their New World Order. All because I raised an objection to his hate message being given a public forum in my community. Don't tell me not to despise the messenger.

I think he's scum and anyone who defends him is either completely uninformed or likes being associated with the neo-Nazi scum of the earth.



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fleabert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 09:32 PM
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2. while I'd like to think it's as sinister as this, it's the longhorn symbol
Edited on Thu Jan-20-05 09:36 PM by fleabert
from UT. Nothing more.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=&imgrefurl=http://www.utexas.edu/student/esl/social/activities/receptionsp03/source/reception39.html&h=640&w=480&sz=55&tbnid=6KYAvWMYGRcJ:&tbnh=134&tbnw=101&start=5&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dlonghorn%2Bpride%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG

I do it all the time, and I am not a part of those who are "Making "hand-wolfe" as a symbolic in-party greeting of Azerbaijan's "Grey Wolves" (Bozkurt) neo-fascist militia."

On edit: Nor am I giving the 'devil's symbol', LOL! that is ridiculous. give me a break.

People in Texas either give the Longhorns, or the 'Gig Em' from A&M, or the guns from Texas Tech... it's just school pride.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 09:35 PM
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4. The eyes of Texas are upon you...
God, I hate UT. Honestly, I want them to lose every game 90-0.

Penn State fan still pissed about the 70s.
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fleabert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 09:38 PM
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9. ;-P we will have to agree to disagree on that one!
I do think it's stupid to have renewed mack browns contract BEFORE the bowl game. I think he is a horrible coach! Oh well, they didn't ask me for my opinion, AGAIN!

Remember, Bush is a fake Texan! He was born in CT! He hijacked my home state!
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 09:43 PM
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13. Great recruiter; horrible game coach
Though it is going to take a special kind of genius to lose with the talent you have coming back next year.
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fleabert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 09:48 PM
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17. I totally agree. It's awful.
What'e bad as well is the number of Texas high schoolers who go on to OU, their team is almost entirely made up of Texans!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 09:36 PM
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6. Bush went to UT?
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fleabert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 09:41 PM
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11. jenna did
remember she got busted in austin trying to use a fake id?
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 02:48 PM
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35. Bush didn't go to UT
I thought I read somewhere that he wanted to, but they rejected him because his transcript wasn't good enough.
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 03:12 PM
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37. The University of Texas Law School rejected him
with this deathless prose:

"I am sure there is a place for young George Bush somewhere. However, in light of his grades on the LSAT exams, that place is not the School of Law at the University of Texas.")
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 03:20 PM
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38. Gotta love it........... n/t
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kohodog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 09:37 PM
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7. not the same sign n/t
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fleabert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 10:02 PM
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25. do you mean bush is doing something different from the longhorn sign, or
do you mean that the longhorn sign and the one the OP showed are different? I am not clear on what you mean.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 09:38 PM
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8. nothing more? That's a bit clueless
are you unaware of universal symbolism? The Longhorns (And Satan does call himself The Horned One) should proably change their sign if they're interested in being "Christians." I don't see how anyone could be that uninformed in this day and age. Bush should be ashamed of making that sign in a public place anyway; it's completely undignified and cheapens the occasion at the very least, even without the obvious implications.
Besides, he's a doper, he knows what it means! He's just a lying hypocrite.
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fleabert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 09:46 PM
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14. I am not clueless. you are if you think every person who supports
Edited on Thu Jan-20-05 09:52 PM by fleabert
the longhorns does that hand gesture and thinks of the devil. Have you seen a longhorn?



This is so silly. OU uses and upside down longhorn as their hand gesture due to the intense rivalry between UT and OU. I don't think you have any idea what football and sports mean in Texas. Not that it's right, but it's a BIG deal.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=&imgrefurl=http://photos.newsok.com/OUTexas101103A/1532103.html&h=243&w=350&sz=29&tbnid=6BopwcfKfC8J:&tbnh=80&tbnw=115&start=8&prev=/images%3Fq%3DOU%2B%2BUT%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG
This picture is esp. painful for me to post, but I do so only to convey the sheer joy on their faces, as testament to the rivalry. This was a bad day for Longhorn fans...I think my Dad almost cried.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 02:55 PM
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36. Wow...
I hope you are being sarcastic. If not....ummmmmm....wow.

:silly:
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 09:38 PM
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10. That's what they WANT us to believe. Maybe the UT salute...
... was developed years ago as part of a sinister plot, leading to just this very moment in history.

I don't know if that's the case, but SOME PEOPLE are saying it is... :evilgrin:

:D
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fleabert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 09:47 PM
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15. LOL!
Some people... I take it you have seen 'outfoxed'! :-)
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 09:56 PM
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22. But why use a symbol for UT at a formal national event?
At best it seems childish and inappropriate.

God, the office of the presidency has sunk SO low. :eyes:
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fleabert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 10:00 PM
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23. I agree. but that's all I think it is.
I know tons of people (liberal too) who would not think twice about giving 'hook 'em horns' anywhere, anytime the spirit moved them. It gets to be a habit.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 10:09 PM
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27. You're probably right, but there is something so "Frat Boyish"
about it. It's barely a step above giving the high five or some other sophmoric, frathouse type of greeting.
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fleabert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 11:33 PM
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29. yep. nt
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 12:32 AM
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33. I've given chest bumps...at weddings....
...to bridesmaids.

When did DU become the fuddy-duddy site?
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 12:29 AM
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32. Childish and inappropriate?
Look who you're talking about!

;)
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kohodog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 09:35 PM
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5. that sure is a slow loading site!
Did the bushistas use the sign today? I know they have in the past.

Only heard clips of the speech today, but it sounds a bit like a call to arms for a new world order. Haven't we heard that before from shrub 1? Now it's right in our faces.
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 09:51 PM
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19. As an OU fanatic...
'makes me want to hurl. :puke:
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fleabert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 09:54 PM
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21. you will appreciate my link in post #14...it hurt to put it there... nt
Edited on Thu Jan-20-05 09:54 PM by fleabert
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 10:00 PM
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24. Heh. Yeah...
we've handed you guys a couple of good thwumpin's in the last few years. You owe us one...that's for sure.

Actually, the first and only OU/TX game I've ever actually was able to attend was that first game, when OU won by like, what was it, 63-14. Hands down...the funnest football game I have ever attended, and I've had season tickets for the last five years!
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fleabert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 10:08 PM
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26. we do owe you big! :-) Don't rub it in...I hate Mack Brown.
Just to be funny...



also...notice the difference in the middle and ring fingers, they are very different from the one in the OP... not a 'wolf' at all. Just a longhorns horns!
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 09:52 PM
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20. They're Slayer fans
When this stuffed-shirt crap is over, behind closed doors it's Reign in Blood, baby.
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fleabert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 02:42 PM
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34. more info about this...
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