CNN's "presidential historian" disses Europe

[Cocoa]

I forgot the woman's name, it wasn't Doris Kearns-Goodwin, someone else...

She referred to "our allies in Europe" then corrected herself and said "our so-called allies in Europe."

Someone should tell CNN (and I will in a minute) that our allies in Europe are still very much our allies in Europe, technically and practically, and that the idea that their opposition to the Iraq debacle means that they are not our allies anymore is a right-wing lie, and not fact.

[Pirate Smile]

1. I was flipping (looking for a movie or something) and MSNBC was showing

the Democratic Senators showing up. So I stopped to watch. Matthews said the crowd booed Kerry. The F@#kers!

Did you see that? I'm impressed that he has the cajones to go and watch. I'm not going to - it is too painful.

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[Cocoa]

5. I didn't hear her elaborate at all

that was part of what offended me, first that it was totally gratuitous and second, that she didn't even explain what she meant. As an academic she should be held to higher standards.

But I wish I knew her name, I bet a little looking into would reveal she's not just any academic, I bet she's political.

[ProfessorGAC]

15. So, When The U.S. Dollar Took Over. . .

. . .as the world's currency, from the British Pound, we stopped being allies with Britain? Allies are allies. Even if she WAS talking about the currency situation, it's still an incredibly stupid, and wholly inaccurate statement. I think you're trying to defend an indefensible statement by this shill.
The Professor

[K-W]

17. So to be our allies, they must tank thier economies everytime we tank ours

?

[MsTryska]

3. what about Poland?! nt

nt

[Stirk]

4. I think I'll write them a letter anout their so-called "historian".

[Boosterman]

6. Well this isnt a popular opinion here

But I dont trust Chiraq. He actually tests out way right on some of those political tests.

[Spider Jerusalem]

7. Yes, Chirac is a conservative...

but he is a EUROPEAN conservative, who recognises the necessity of the welfare state and mixed economy, who recognises the need for international cooperation, et cetera...and compared to someone like Jean-Marie le Pen, Chirac is great...

[shrike]

16. Actually, I've been told Shrub did the impossible

He actually made Chirac a popular figure in Europe -- for a while.

[Boosterman]

18. LOL

That would be catastrophic diplomatic effort I guess.

[xchrom]

8. center and center right in europe means different things than here.

though both are backwards looking.
however -- the center right in europe is often commited socialist principles -- they have ''difficulty'' with that homogenous society thing.

[Stirk]

9. He's right of the European center, which puts him to the left

of most US politicians. Still, I'm not a big fan of Chirac either.

[Cocoa]

10. that's not relevant to whether France is our ally

France is in NATO, they are extremely active in law enforcement against terrorism, they still have troops in Afghanistan, regardless of how you or the professor on CNN feel about Chirac.

[Boosterman]

11. True

I have nothing against France. Just dont care for Chirac. He strikes me as someone who wants power. He strikes me as someone who would like to supplant the US as a world power by controlling the EU. I could be wrong.

After thinking it over though that wouldnt necessarily be a bad thing.

[Gruenemann]

19. My French friends don't care for Chirac either. n/t

[Taxloss]

12. That;s some historian. n/t

[TWiley]

13. CNN toatlly sucks. Anderson Cooper, and Lou Dobbs

are the only reason to turn that hideous channel on.

[oasis]

14. Kearns-Goodwin is a disgraced plagurist.