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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 04:29 PM
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It's finally sunk in-there will be no accountability for Bush ever
After the wmd story it's finally sunk in deep, Bush will never have to answer or pay the price for what he's done. I haven't felt this angry or defeated in a long time.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 04:31 PM
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1. USA 1776-2000
I remember it fondly.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 05:48 PM
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 04:59 PM
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2. Todays conservatism is rooted in unaccountability
Edited on Wed Jan-12-05 05:19 PM by superconnected
They don't consider the cause and outcome of their actions. They refuse to hear it. It includes mass denial that there are any problems with global warming, pollution, corporate curruption at the goverment level, WMD's, etc.

What they do see is distorted information like the men in iraq are dying to keep us safe, the antartic naturally melts now and then, the deficit isn't a problem.

How can you hold a willfully-self-delusional person accountable?

Bush fits their delusions. While they steal majority, he will never be held accountable.
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Jack The Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 05:06 PM
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3. He cannot escape history....
His presidency will be remembered as the worst and most corrupt in our history.

I know it's cold comfort right now, but in 15 years of so he will be more reviled than Nixon ever was.

He can only appear in front of his hardcore supporters right now. Imagine in 10 or 15 years. It will be much worse.

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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 05:14 PM
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6. 7 years after Nixon fell, St. Reagan said we would defile 50K graves
if we dared think 'Nam wasn't a glorious and supergood noble war.
Meanwhile, fiends get tingly at the thought of the My Lai woman who was shot so often her bones shattered off into chips that flew through the air and the children butchered as they tried to suckle at their mothers' breast.
Many see Calley as a hero.
Germany learned of its own horrors after the end of WWII. We will never learn, even if whole cities are wiped out by attacks.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 06:04 PM
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16. But as you know
As per Bob Woodward, "how do you think history will judge you?"
Bush: "I don't think much about that, we'll all be dead".

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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 05:08 PM
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4. Even though I certainly feel the same some days
Eventually..Stalin died and the wall fell.

Even the worst of the worst get their due in the end. Just stay angry enough to make it before you yourself pass the mortal realm.

That's my goal.

Yes you can tell the young people, "I lived through that madness...yes I know it was a nightmare..yes that really happened..no never <cough cough> again."

It's so sad we learn zip from history. It's not like Bushco invented the wheel on propaganda, lies, cronism, ideoligcal zeal and warmongering.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 05:12 PM
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5. Not sure if this will make you feel better or not *hugs*
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 05:14 PM
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7. thanks to you and all that responded
I usually don't have pity parties but this day really capped for me.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 05:17 PM
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8. Yeah. It just seems like this junta truly is teflon-coated.
We'll just have to keep working for justice and vindication, even if only in the history books.

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DaCheat Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 05:22 PM
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10. Does anyone want to cry....
When they see the John Kerry website? I just think about what could have been and what will certainly be in the next four years. I sometimes just cant deal with it, and worse, Greenville, South Carolina isnt the best place to find comfort. I dont know what I would do without these boards.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 05:41 PM
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12. I know.. DU is a great source of comfort and hope *hugs*
Keep fighting the good fight. Who knows what we might get done in the next four years?

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DaCheat Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 05:46 PM
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13. You see?
Thats why I love these boards and the people on them. The more I feel down, I can come here, and people feel the same way as me, and we lift ourselves up.
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 06:14 PM
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18. There is a strange...
...part of me that wishes I lived in a red state...I live in CA and I am among mostly friends.

I would give anything to live in a truly "RED" state...It would fire me up and give me a reason for getting up in the morning. Nothing like a good political fight to get the blood going.

-Paige
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DaCheat Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 06:19 PM
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20. Its not all its made out to be
South Carolina is so red, that there is no fight really. Maybe in Charleston or something, but in Greenville, there are Republican goth kids. You heard right, the kids wearing baggy black pants, also have W stickers on their bookbags. My high school is only fun because of my two democrat friends, and my four or five resonable republican friends.
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American Tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 07:45 PM
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25. I haven't been able to go to the site
I can't bear it. I didn't support Kerry in the beginning, and I was furious at the direction of his campaign, but on a personal level he did grow on me.

I know how you feel, honestly. I know what it is like to be alone in your passion and ideology. In particular, I know what it's like in Greenville, cause I was there for a couple weeks last summer!
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 05:20 PM
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9. there is always accountability
always.
Patience.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 05:34 PM
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11. yes but we are accountable to our selves
For letting this imbecile take up ANY of our conscious attention.
I don't bother with criminals and i certainly don't give felons any
airtime in my life.... as much as it hurts, forgive him and move on...
he'll be gone soon enough, and better that your heart be loving, as
that is what "you" are accountable for in life.

bush will be held accountable by historians for destroying the country
and as the last president of the first american republic. After him,
there will be little to do but get a gorbachev to reform the mess
before it collapses totally... and the republic will never recover.

Forgive them, and trust in a higher power, that despite the terrible
injustices he is all about, that justice will prevail.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 05:52 PM
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15. Well, if there is no free press, but just corporate/government
propaganda, then there is no one to tell the tale.

Very sad, the death of america.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 06:08 PM
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17. That's what many thought about Nixon, too!!!
Edited on Wed Jan-12-05 06:08 PM by Just Me
Hang in there. None of us know, for certain, what tomorrow may bring.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 06:21 PM
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21. The BIG difference then was that we had a free press
That has vanished. The two guys who tracked down Nixon's criminal gang were from the Washington Post.

Please don't expect anyone to believe that the WaPo would do anything to besmirch LordGodBush Saviour of Israel.

Just don't
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 07:10 PM
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24. A "whistle-blower" also brought Nixon down, though.
Do you really think the press was more free then that it is now?

:shrug:

Moreover, those guys were pretty young and really didn't expect to find what they ultimately revealed.

Sure, this administration is more challenging because it seeks to correct all the mistakes that took the Nixon administration down. Nevertheless, we can either be hopeful realists and never give up or hopeless realists and simply concede. I tend to opt for the former but everyone is entitled to choose for him/herself.

Yes? :bounce:
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 06:16 PM
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19. Quite true
There is no such thing as karma, and there is no inevitability about justice.

Odds are that Bush will leave the White House in January 2009 unscathed and will spend the rest of his life smirking and rich and self-indulgent, honored by stupid rightwingers and full of himself.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 06:24 PM
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22. I wouldn't say never, however, when
these thugs meet their just deserts, they will have already dragged us down with them through the quagmire of the consequences of their actions.
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s-cubed Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 06:27 PM
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23. I don't think so - I still think he's gong to be impeached - and convicted
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