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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 10:45 PM
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Does it amaze you that cowards are able to gain the support of people who
Support the Troops? Look at Bush, Cheney, Rove,Kristol, Wolfowitz, Gingrich,Perle etc. And contrast them with Kerry,Gephardt, Daschle.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 10:48 PM
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1. Say what?
:shrug:
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VioletLake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 10:48 PM
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2. And people who support Kerry, Gephardt, and Daschle
don't support the troops?
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 10:49 PM
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3. That is a story that the Republicans would like to spread.Of course that
is not true.
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VioletLake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 10:50 PM
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4. Why are you spreading the story?
Are you Republican?
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 11:02 PM
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8. Please read my post carefully.I said Support The Troops as a way to
describe people who flaunt their patriotism not the silent majority who do not display their bumper stickers and are no less patriotic.
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VioletLake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 11:16 PM
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11. I read your post carefully.
"I said Support The Troops as a way to describe people who flaunt their patriotism not the silent majority who do not display their bumper stickers and are no less patriotic."

The original post said no such thing. I pointed out what your logic implies, and you explained what you really meant.

The error is in your original post.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 10:53 PM
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5. "The poetry of heroism . . .
appeals irresistably to those who don’t go to a war, and even more to those whom the war is making enormously wealthy. It’s always so. ~ Louis Ferdinand Celine
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euler Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 10:57 PM
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6. I've read this 10 times, but I don't know what you're TRYING to say.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 10:58 PM
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7. Same problem I'm having, Mister 2.7182...
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American Tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 11:05 PM
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9. Translation:
Isn't it amazing that people who (ostensibly) support the troops also support cowards like Bush, Cheney, Rove, Kristol, Wolfowitz, Gingrich, Perle, etc.?
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 11:16 PM
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10. Thanks. That is what I meant.
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American Tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 11:29 PM
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12. And yes, it would, if not for a defining characteristic in these people
They bear elements of the Authoritarian Personality. They are more likely to conform to the will of traditional hierarchy, like the military, and the current administration. It manifests itself most vividly and persuasively in their religious activity. To me, it's the most obvious common feature of the conservative base.
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 11:35 PM
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13. I think you may have touched upon the key character trait of the
right wing zealot.Obedience to power while looking down on the weak.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 11:53 PM
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14. But being obedient to power would
make them the weak...would it not? And the ones that are defienant the strong?
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 11:58 PM
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15. They are weak but use their proximity to the powerful as their shield.
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American Tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 12:48 AM
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16. That's how I would view it, too.
Logically, it just confounds you, since most cultural icons and heroes in Western civilization that I remember growing up were the weak and mortal standing up to the powerful. David and Goliath. Odysseus and the gods. Most surprisingly, the central figure of the religion in which they wrap so much of their identity literally died in opposition to the moral status quo. Unfortunately, Christianity, as the massive human institution, has frequently eclipsed Christ, as told in the Gospels.
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:52 AM
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17. What contrast?
Bush, Cheney, Rove,Kristol, Wolfowitz, Gingrich,Perl = all too cowardly to fight for their country.

Kerry,Gephardt, Daschle = all too cowardly to fight the aforementioned thugs.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:57 AM
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18. the gullibility of many Murkans never amazes me anymore
I think with enough marketing dough (or control of the media), you could successfully sell half of Americans candy-coated dog turds as a snack food.
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msmcghee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:59 AM
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19. Kissing up to power . .
. . and the status quo. Power needs constant support. There will always be sycophants around to fill that need.
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