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n2mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:22 PM
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Just heard Randi say
"today is the end of democracy." Personally, I think today was a beginning, someone finally spoke out and now we know who to support in our party. A message was sent today, more than was sent in 2000!
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:25 PM
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1. zactly and now we need a paper trail and IRV!

Frequently Asked Questions About Instant Runoff Voting



What is instant runoff voting?

Instant runoff voting is a method of electing a single winner. It provides an alternative to plurality and runoff elections. In a plurality election, the highest vote getter wins even if s/he receives less than 50% of the vote. In a runoff election, two candidates advance to a runoff if no candidate receives more than 50% in the first round.

How does it work?
Voters rank candidates in order of choice: 1, 2, 3 and so on. It takes a majority to win. If anyone receives a majority of the first choice votes, that candidate is elected. If not, the last place candidate is defeated, just as in a runoff election, and all ballots are counted again, but this time each ballot cast for the defeated candidate counts for the next choice candidate listed on the ballot. The process of eliminating the last place candidate and recounting the ballots continues until one candidate receives a majority of the vote. With modern voting equipment, all of the counting and recounting takes place rapidly and automatically.

IRV acts like a series of runoff elections in which one candidate is eliminated each election. Each time a candidate is eliminated, all voters get to choose among the remaining candidates. This continues until one candidate receives a majority of the vote.

Isn’t this too complex for the voter?

No. All the voter has to do is rank one or more candidates. It’s like renting a video or picking an ice cream: What video (or flavor) do you want? That’s your first choice. If they don’t have that video (or flavor), what would you like? That’s your second choice. If they don’t have that, what’s your third pick? That’s all there is to it. It’s as easy as 1-2-3.

Doesn’t this give extra votes to supporters of defeated candidates?

No. In each round, every voter’s ballot counts for exactly one candidate. In this respect, it’s just like a two-round runoff election. You vote for your favorite candidate in the first round. If your candidate advances to the second round, you keep supporting that candidate. If not, you get to pick among the remaining candidates. In IRV candidates gets eliminated one at a time, and each time, all voters get to select among the remaining candidates. At each step of the ballot counting, every voter has exactly one vote for a continuing candidate. That’s why the Courts have upheld the constitutionality of IRV.

more...
http://www.fairvote.org/irv/faq.htm

peace
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:26 PM
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2. 25 Senators and 106 Reps didnt even show up today.
What do we pay these people for.
IMO, democracy died 12/2000. Today was just the final nail in the coffin.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 04:45 PM
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3. Time to fire the ones that didn't show up.
I will vote for a Green candidate before I vote for any Democrat that didn't show up or who voted along with the Republican members. Screw them.
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