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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:58 PM
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this is going to backfire:
"It turns out that the majority of those nations affected were Muslim nations," Powell said. "We'd be doing it regardless of religion, but I think ... does give the Muslim world and the rest of the world ... an opportunity to see American generosity, American values in action."
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Jesus H. Christ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:59 PM
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1. Muslims aren't stupid.
They know the US dropped the ball.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:02 PM
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2. Right. We had the opportunity but chimpy fumbled it again
Meanwhile, where was Colin Powell and his fellow Republicans when we were helping Muslims in Bosnia? As I recall they were shrieking about the waste of money and loss of American life over "nothing."
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:03 PM
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3. I laughed out loud when I heard that. It sounded like "Abu Ghraib" to me.
Edited on Wed Jan-05-05 05:36 PM by librechik
yeah, us being dragged by the world into doing the right thing while we're still holding Muslims captured without due process...like putting lipstick on a DEAD pig with cigarette burns all over it.

Get a grip, Colin. It's just embarrassing. let's apologize and get going to change our (continuing) miserable reponse
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:11 PM
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8. "lipstick on a DEAD pig with cigarette burns all over it"
First I laughed...it IS funny...then I thought about crying...but this is NOT AMERICA. America is waiting in safety while we defeat this nasty evil thing that pretends to be America, so no crying allowed...and then I emailed the link to all my WHYBWRRHYC* pals. :)

* The We Hate You Bush We Really Really Hate You Club.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:03 PM
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4. How kind of us to help in the worst disaster ever ....
"REGARDLESS OF RELIGION."

That sounds like a slip-up to me (on Powell's part). It comes off as reflective of the holy war this administration has set up.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:06 PM
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Dont worry
They blame Bush. They just cant come to terms yet how he got re elected. Now you need to explain to them.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:22 PM
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12. He DIDN'T get re-elected. But the MSM doesn't reveal that
What is being said outside the US about the legitimacy of the Nov 2 US election, OV? Inside the US, most people seem unaware of the clear evidence of fraud and the massive racist voter suppression.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 06:40 PM
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13. We know 2000 was disaster
We know Bush wasnt President elected.
What does people outside US think.
Just look at all the welcome he receive anywhere he goes from the people.
Basically do you think people like bad politician haha.
We feel that the 2004 election is fix.
We amaze at how you guys can let a no paper trail system get through
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 07:55 PM
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17. Yeah, it IS amazing, isn't it? I see 4 main reasons for it.
Basically, I see four major reasons for this lack of a paper trail being allowed to happen, and also for the elections being stolen without raising a huge popular outcry (yet):

1. The Republicans controlled (and still control) all three branches of the government. That means no investigations, Supreme Court biased, and all attempts (and this DID happen) to require a paper trail were blocked by state and federal congresses. They managed this overwhelming control largely by a combination of manipulating the fears of the voters, brainwashing them (see #3), and election fraud/voter suppression.

2. For whatever reason, enough of the Democratic Congresspeople went along with this situation to allow it to happen.

3. The television stations, most radio stations, and most newspapers lean toward the administration and support whatever pleases them and keeps them in power; the truth is told only when it supports the desired agenda. THIS IS HUGE -- IT CONTROLS THE VOTERS OF THIS COUNTRY AND MOST DON'T EVEN KNOW IT.

4. Most voters remain unaware of the magnitude of the fraud. This is both because of #3 and because they just can't believe the situation is really that serious. My sister-in-law, a "progressive," laughed in my face when I told her I thought the election was stolen. "Come on! she said, "This is still America!"

#4 is especially sad -- the others are mostly just infuriating--and can be better understood by thinking about this 2000-year-old quotation:
It is as hard for the good to suspect evil, as it is for the bad to suspect good. -Marcus Tullius Cicero, statesman, orator, writer (106-43 BCE)
Most of the rest of the world is wiser in this because they have witnessed government-led evil much more closely and know how to recognize it better. The continental US has fought in many wars, but not on its own territory for more than 100 years. There is a lot of misplaced trust in the leaders and in the press.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 06:54 PM
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15. There are very strong signal to Us internationally
Edited on Wed Jan-05-05 06:56 PM by Oversea Visitor
Look at how Japan and Australia reacting and the amount they putting in.
These 2 countries knows the Asian mood well.
They are moving away from US
India stand is clear they even told off Sri Lanka for not being consulted when US marines landed in SR Lanka in force.
This was the coalition of countries Bush want to lead in the Tsunami disaster. Its on CNN flash worldwide.
Then he say he add UN to this coalition also on CNN flash worldwide.
Summit is being hold in Indonesia 6th Jan you be surprise how tactful we are wording the content. But it will be clear that US will not be leading this effort. However the copters are appreciated and it will save many lives.
I am from Malaysia and we also doing our best to help but haha we do not get to be reported. Our Mercy teams was in Indonesia and Sri Lanka as soon as we realiase that our damage was not too great.
We was the first foriegn team to arrive to help
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:06 PM
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5. An even better example of American generosity --
-- would be the unprovoked assault on the sovereign nation of Iraq generally and the multiple thousands of dead and wounded and maimed specifically.

Keep shovelin', Colin.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:08 PM
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6. even the rw wackos are going balistic over this comment as FANTASY
:evilgrin:

of course they think they don't like us because we are FREE - lol

peace
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:09 PM
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7. He just had to slip that in there didn't he?
Some people are saying there is a "silver lining" to this disaster, showing the "Muslim world" how gernerous we are. Disgraceful.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:16 PM
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9. they hold grudges back from the days of the Mohamed
Edited on Wed Jan-05-05 05:17 PM by sam sarrha
They will never forget... NEVER ..for no reason, because Islam is not based on reason, it is based on Mohamed who channeled a being... "Allah", a self described god.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:18 PM
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10. Sounds like we are helping even if they are sub-human. Is Powell---
a nut also?
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:18 PM
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11. Geez, Powell! Gag me with a spoon, I thought you had more class n/t
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 06:44 PM
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14. Fuck your "american values" BS line, Iraq is a pure enough example.
n/t
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 06:56 PM
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16. Besides that the bushies will screw them
in the end. They always do.
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