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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 09:19 PM Original message |
So you're pro-life'...Explain why we should make abortion illegal? |
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Kazak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
1. I couldn't agree more... |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 09:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. -nt- |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 09:25 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. What are you going on about? |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 09:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. I don't know what happens when I post on DU |
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thoughtanarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
2. I see alternatives that DON'T make sense... |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
6. reproductive slavery |
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efhmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:30 PM Response to Reply #6 |
157. I like the way you think and the way you turn a phrase. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 02:10 PM Response to Reply #157 |
283. We need to do this just like the right does... |
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lojasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
7. We shouldn't. |
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SudieJD (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
8. I'd Never Have One... |
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rabid_nerd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
9. here are some stats |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 03:43 PM Response to Reply #9 |
91. what does this prove? |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:35 PM Response to Reply #91 |
148. Women in PA used to go to Ohio for abortions... |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 11:41 AM Response to Reply #148 |
261. I am not surprized |
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radwriter0555 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 08:43 AM Response to Reply #9 |
253. Abortion is a perfectly safe, legal and acceptable form of birth control. |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
10. I'm not a "pro-lifer" ( ?) but I think central to their argument is... |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 09:48 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Thanks for the info, and insight. Does anyone think about data collection |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 09:52 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Indeed... somewhat analagous to alcohol consumption before and after ... |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 08:57 PM Response to Reply #17 |
136. It's been pretty well established that |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:32 PM Response to Reply #136 |
147. Leave it to a history teacher... |
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LisaLL (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:53 PM Response to Reply #147 |
151. abortion rates |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:16 PM Response to Reply #147 |
153. One thing we do know for sure |
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LisaLL (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 07:17 AM Response to Reply #153 |
160. adoption |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:02 AM Response to Reply #160 |
177. Vey true Lisa |
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LisaLL (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 07:34 AM Response to Reply #153 |
165. other things we know for sure |
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LisaLL (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 08:37 AM Response to Reply #153 |
167. adoption |
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LisaLL (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 07:49 AM Response to Reply #136 |
166. pro-life and legality |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 09:39 PM Response to Reply #166 |
227. Why can't we reduce abortions and make it illegal as well |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:09 PM Response to Reply #136 |
196. You will have to provide a LINK for your statement that: |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 01:04 AM Response to Reply #196 |
242. Here you go |
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rabid_nerd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 09:59 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. Restrictive laws DO, Prohibitive laws DON'T... |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 10:25 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. I agree that we lose when we insist that life begins at birth |
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Razorback_Democrat (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:09 AM Response to Reply #26 |
71. Absolutely! Especially with new ultrasound technology |
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nascarblue (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 07:31 AM Response to Reply #71 |
163. Ultrasound is not "new" NT |
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Razorback_Democrat (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:47 AM Response to Reply #163 |
170. 3D ultrasound is n/t |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 03:46 PM Response to Reply #21 |
93. what do we lose? |
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Eileen (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 10:27 PM Response to Reply #10 |
28. Legalization DID NOT increase the number of abortions! |
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drthais (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 01:07 AM Response to Reply #10 |
54. 'restrictive laws will'..... |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 08:59 AM Response to Reply #10 |
58. Yes, how do you track the number of illegal abortions accurately? |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:54 PM Response to Reply #10 |
238. Pre-Roe, there were very few legal abortions so of course |
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Razorback_Democrat (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
11. Pro Life here, but NOT anti-abortion |
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Fiona (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 09:45 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. There's absolutely nothing wrong |
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Razorback_Democrat (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 10:45 PM Response to Reply #12 |
35. I disagree |
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Fiona (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 10:59 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. lol |
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Razorback_Democrat (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:06 AM Response to Reply #42 |
68. Definitions change as new knowledge is obtained! |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 03:47 PM Response to Reply #68 |
94. baloney |
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Razorback_Democrat (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 04:46 PM Response to Reply #94 |
109. Calling it a fetus dehumanizes it, makes it easier to kill n/t |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:58 AM Response to Reply #109 |
176. no calling it a fetus differentiates it from the already born. nt |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:32 AM Response to Reply #176 |
184. From where I sit, the terminology... |
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Heddi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 04:31 PM Response to Reply #68 |
103. No, calling a "fetus" a fetus is the CORRECT terminology |
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pnb (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 04:46 PM Response to Reply #103 |
108. I've got a question here |
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Heddi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 06:03 PM Response to Reply #108 |
121. Here's how it is |
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pnb (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:08 PM Response to Reply #121 |
271. Thank you |
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left15 (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 10:11 AM Response to Reply #121 |
307. I'm not arguing but... |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 10:14 AM Response to Reply #68 |
308. If you call them babies you better recalculate everybody's ages. (nt) |
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American Tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:01 AM Response to Reply #35 |
67. It's still pretty hard for me to call it a fetus at the eighth month |
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Razorback_Democrat (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:06 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Per other posters, you were a fetus |
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American Tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:30 AM Response to Reply #69 |
81. Well, I am still pro-choice, but even in utero there is a difference |
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phylny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 05:23 PM Response to Reply #69 |
120. It seems to me that YOU are ascribing a negative meaning to the term |
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Heddi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 06:13 PM Response to Reply #69 |
124. it has NOTHING to do with compassion or humanity |
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nascarblue (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 07:30 AM Response to Reply #69 |
162. OMG, it doesnt matter anyways, fetus or baby, you can't |
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Heddi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 06:10 PM Response to Reply #67 |
123. But you were BORN |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 11:44 AM Response to Reply #67 |
262. once you were born you were a baby |
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rabid_nerd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 09:50 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Various beliefs about when personhood takes place (overview) |
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Heddi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 09:56 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Your point is? |
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rabid_nerd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 10:13 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Hey - I'm Atheist.. AND I'm Pro-Life... Deal with that... |
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Heddi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 10:26 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. But how do you deal with |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:47 AM Response to Reply #27 |
65. I don't think poor people would say they were better off never being born |
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Razorback_Democrat (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:12 AM Response to Reply #65 |
72. Very good points |
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Heddi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 03:36 PM Response to Reply #72 |
89. I said NOTHING about any "Master Race" or "poor don't deserve to be born" |
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Razorback_Democrat (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 03:42 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. Hey now, let's look at this again |
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Razorback_Democrat (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 03:44 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. In retrospect, apologies if you were offended Heddi |
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Heddi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 04:03 PM Response to Reply #92 |
97. no problemo! It happens |
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Razorback_Democrat (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 04:47 PM Original message |
I agree, and I think that your list of things to reduce abortion |
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Heddi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 04:10 PM Response to Reply #65 |
99. Who said anything about "Better off not being born"????? |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:56 AM Response to Reply #99 |
173. I didn't miss your point, but I don't agree with it |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:04 PM Response to Reply #173 |
188. Having an abortion is accepting the consequences |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 04:45 PM Response to Reply #188 |
207. No to me |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 04:57 PM Response to Reply #207 |
210. "off the baby" |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 05:37 PM Response to Reply #210 |
211. Yes they did actually |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 05:47 PM Response to Reply #211 |
212. asking and forcing are two different things altogether |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 05:58 PM Response to Reply #212 |
214. Exactly |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 07:03 PM Response to Reply #214 |
217. So the embryo is sacrosanct if the mother wasn't raped |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 09:27 PM Response to Reply #217 |
225. I most certainly can say the same |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:35 PM Response to Reply #225 |
236. Then you're a stone-cold, self-defined hypocrite |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:52 PM Response to Reply #236 |
237. I think you are assuming things |
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Nobody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 08:10 PM Response to Reply #214 |
220. How would you know? |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 09:30 PM Response to Reply #220 |
226. I'm not saying its OK |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:52 PM Response to Reply #226 |
240. That's sooooooooooo big of you to withhold your "personal" feelings |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 08:43 AM Response to Reply #240 |
252. For your info, I have faced those consequences |
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Nobody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 07:11 AM Response to Reply #226 |
246. Indeed it's too complex, that's why it's not your decision |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:01 PM Response to Reply #226 |
267. okay now hold your personal feelings in all the other situations you don't |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 11:54 AM Response to Reply #214 |
266. You thinking is so victorian |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 09:16 PM Response to Reply #173 |
222. Don't tell me |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 09:41 PM Response to Reply #222 |
228. Even more simple |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 06:44 PM Response to Reply #228 |
293. Nope |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 06:14 PM Response to Reply #65 |
125. UGH!!! |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 08:52 PM Response to Reply #27 |
135. Sorry Heddi but |
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Heddi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 08:59 PM Response to Reply #135 |
137. But sex ed encompasses MORE than just how to get pregnant |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 09:42 PM Response to Reply #137 |
143. I didn't say otherwise |
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Heddi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:12 PM Response to Reply #143 |
146. But many people don't see abortion as killing |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:37 PM Response to Reply #146 |
149. Some issues are very complex aren't they Heddi |
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LisaLL (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 09:35 PM Response to Reply #135 |
141. sex ed |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 10:37 PM Response to Reply #18 |
31. Bravo! |
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Razorback_Democrat (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 10:47 PM Response to Reply #18 |
36. So it is a fetus until it comes out of the womb? |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:56 PM Response to Reply #36 |
202. yes..from the 8th week following conception until birth he/she is a |
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rfkrfk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 08:32 AM Response to Reply #202 |
251. Where did the number '8', come from? |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:48 AM Response to Reply #251 |
257. medical definition based on the stage of development.. |
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rfkrfk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 11:25 AM Response to Reply #257 |
259. there was NO election, for the people stating those opinions |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 11:30 AM Response to Reply #259 |
260. I am not sure what you are asking? Medical definition is based on |
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rfkrfk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 11:47 AM Response to Reply #260 |
264. kewl, but, the numbers seem arbitrary |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 01:28 PM Response to Reply #264 |
280. the numbers is based on the time it takes to complete each stage of |
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x_y_no (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 09:33 AM Response to Reply #18 |
63. The point ... |
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Razorback_Democrat (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:08 AM Response to Reply #63 |
70. And that is how a rational discussion should start! |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 06:17 PM Response to Reply #63 |
126. That's exactly where ROE v Wade drew the line |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 04:44 PM Response to Reply #15 |
105. The problem |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 11:46 AM Response to Reply #15 |
263. I agree with the Jews... life begins at birth |
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Heddi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 09:51 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. I'm in nursing school. I can tell you that |
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Eileen (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 10:38 PM Response to Reply #16 |
32. Don't fall for the propaganda. |
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Razorback_Democrat (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 10:48 PM Response to Reply #16 |
37. That's all just defensive language, I know several OB's that will tell you |
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bobedwards (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 10:57 PM Response to Reply #16 |
41. but... |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 10:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
29. yup, pro-life here, but not anti-choice |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 06:04 PM Response to Reply #11 |
122. Disagree |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:58 AM Response to Reply #11 |
175. fetus means the child has not left the womb yet... |
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Heddi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
13. I'm a firm believer that you cannot, with any efficacy, legislate morality |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 09:58 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. We all know the answer about use of drugs/alcohol |
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Heddi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 10:09 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Completely |
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bobedwards (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 11:13 PM Response to Reply #13 |
44. Again... |
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American Tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:52 AM Response to Reply #44 |
86. It's not about morality, it's about unconsensual impositions upon other |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 03:54 PM Response to Reply #44 |
95. what uterus is a murder victim living in....................... as always |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
19. I'm pro-life |
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Razorback_Democrat (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 10:50 PM Response to Reply #19 |
40. I think you said what I thought, and believe generally |
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Earl Ham (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
22. hahaha |
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fairfaxvadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
23. I'm with you. |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
30. Many pro-lifers believe |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 10:42 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. I couldn't tell by your post...but I assume that's what you believe |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:33 PM Response to Reply #33 |
158. I think you may be going too far with.... |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:55 AM Response to Reply #30 |
87. Great explanation! |
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LisaLL (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 09:49 PM Response to Reply #30 |
144. if abortion is murder, why wouldn't they want to do what it takes to reduc |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:36 AM Response to Reply #144 |
185. All pro-lifers are not equal |
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LisaLL (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:15 PM Response to Reply #185 |
190. good answer |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 04:56 PM Response to Reply #190 |
209. If for safety reasons you mean |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 09:18 PM Response to Reply #185 |
223. No, they aren't. |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 09:43 PM Response to Reply #223 |
229. Your making that up |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 06:40 PM Response to Reply #229 |
292. What's the difference? |
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bobedwards (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
34. Plain and Simple... |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 12:06 AM Response to Reply #34 |
49. i think male masturbation is murder |
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bobedwards (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 12:12 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Well for them |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 12:18 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. i know they really believe it...still doesn't make for good public policy |
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bobedwards (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 12:43 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Agreed |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 01:01 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. lol...i know you were playing the devil |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 09:20 PM Response to Reply #49 |
138. But nothing answers all the issues involved |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:31 PM Response to Reply #138 |
198. common sense protections already exist in the current law |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:40 PM Response to Reply #49 |
150. So is a Wet dream |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:21 PM Response to Reply #150 |
155. I don't know any pro-lifer |
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bobedwards (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
38. Further... |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 11:51 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. not beliefs...FACT |
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Razorback_Democrat (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:37 AM Response to Reply #46 |
82. That's a good rationalization, but if you believe that it is a life, not a |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:51 PM Response to Reply #82 |
201. great |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 11:51 AM Response to Reply #82 |
265. Then make those societal changes and leave women alone |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
39. My .02 |
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Razorback_Democrat (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:39 AM Response to Reply #39 |
83. Make adoption easier, make it easier to raise kids, etc. |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 04:03 PM Response to Reply #83 |
96. What makes you think there is anything "easy" about any adoption |
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Razorback_Democrat (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:17 PM Response to Reply #96 |
154. It should be rarer |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:04 PM Response to Reply #154 |
269. MYOB |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
43. Kucinich was pro-life before he ran for president |
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bobedwards (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 11:18 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. It's kinda |
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drthais (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 01:18 AM Response to Reply #45 |
55. ah. me. bobedwards, bobedwards |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 11:54 PM Response to Original message |
47. pro-lifers hate all abortions, except their own |
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bobedwards (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-20-04 11:59 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Never heard of that one |
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Razorback_Democrat (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:14 AM Response to Reply #47 |
74. Tell me pray tell, WHO likes any abortions? |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 04:25 PM Response to Reply #74 |
102. Yoko Ono is pro-abortion |
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Razorback_Democrat (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 04:45 PM Response to Reply #102 |
106. Case in point! n/t |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 04:51 PM Response to Reply #102 |
112. link.. |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 09:37 PM Response to Reply #112 |
142. another DUer posted it |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:06 PM Response to Reply #102 |
270. nonsense |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 02:15 PM Response to Reply #102 |
284. So this describes MAYBE 1 in 10,000 abortions performed? |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:30 PM Response to Reply #74 |
192. really not the point |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 04:08 PM Response to Reply #47 |
98. I have no article, I can only post my experience |
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Razorback_Democrat (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:51 AM Response to Reply #98 |
171. Good Lord, if they were using it as birth control |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:08 PM Response to Reply #171 |
272. who is using it as birth control? |
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dutchdoctor (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 06:49 AM Response to Original message |
56. legalising abortion actually lowers abortion rates: example |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 12:00 PM Response to Reply #56 |
88. Its not that abortion is legal, Its the education that you have there |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 02:21 PM Response to Reply #88 |
285. RIGHT, which is why if the GOP were serious about being Pro-Life... |
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wildeyed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 07:14 PM Response to Reply #56 |
131. I had read that statistic, too. |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:47 PM Response to Reply #56 |
193. HI, dd |
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DownNotOut (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 07:08 AM Response to Original message |
57. The issue is |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
59. I totally agree with you on all points.... |
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dryan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 09:15 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. My 2 cents.... |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:57 AM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Agreed. |
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LisaLL (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 05:16 PM Response to Reply #66 |
119. big differences between pro-life and pro-choice groups |
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GodHelpUsAll2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:30 PM Response to Reply #66 |
156. Ding Ding Ding |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:10 AM Response to Reply #156 |
180. There are groups that help |
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GodHelpUsAll2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 05:51 PM Response to Reply #180 |
213. Exactly |
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Razorback_Democrat (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:16 AM Response to Reply #62 |
75. Ding Ding, you hit the nail on the head!!!! |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 04:47 PM Response to Reply #62 |
110. your cousin was able to make her own decision |
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wildeyed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 07:28 PM Response to Reply #62 |
132. I don't think the corporate side GOP want roe v. wade |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 09:27 PM Response to Reply #59 |
140. You never get a straight answer to the question |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:14 PM Response to Reply #140 |
152. No, they do not answer the question |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:37 PM Response to Reply #152 |
159. You have no understanding of |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:06 AM Response to Reply #159 |
179. Say what? |
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LisaLL (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 03:12 PM Response to Reply #159 |
204. fundies |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 01:45 AM Response to Reply #204 |
243. To answer LisaLL |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:01 PM Response to Reply #243 |
286. On this, we agree |
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shockra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
60. It's once again about trying to have it both ways. |
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Razorback_Democrat (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:26 AM Response to Reply #60 |
80. I'm sorry, I don't follow your logic n/t |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:50 AM Response to Reply #60 |
85. This doesn't make any sense |
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Nadienne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
61. I agree, and furthermore, |
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Tikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
64. The redefinition of a child.... |
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Razorback_Democrat (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:22 AM Response to Reply #64 |
77. Except that children don't have the same legal rights as "any other" |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
73. Here's how I see it |
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Razorback_Democrat (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:24 AM Response to Reply #73 |
79. Yes! |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 04:45 PM Response to Reply #79 |
107. should be, but NOT...rw politicians |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 04:14 PM Response to Reply #73 |
100. so you have made a decision about abortion based on your own ethics |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:57 AM Response to Reply #100 |
174. I'm not claiming better judgement, I'm giving my opinion on this subject. |
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Heddi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 04:19 PM Response to Reply #73 |
101. "If you cannot deal with the consequences of sex, then don't freaking do |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 04:52 PM Response to Reply #101 |
113. utopian aboslutes do not make for good public policy |
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Nobody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 09:23 PM Response to Reply #113 |
139. It's a way for someone else to decide for a woman |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 02:16 PM Response to Reply #139 |
203. "if it's my body, I get veto power" |
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Nobody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 07:59 PM Response to Reply #203 |
219. In a short story a man murdered his wife that way |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 05:03 PM Response to Reply #219 |
289. yet when the "m" word is raised |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:42 AM Response to Reply #101 |
169. No I'm not saying be "good little eunichs" I am saying to accept the |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:03 AM Response to Reply #101 |
178. No. I'm not saying abstain, I'm saying be ready |
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Undercover Owl (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:09 PM Response to Reply #101 |
233. I agree, |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 04:40 PM Response to Reply #73 |
104. a fetus is not a "baby" |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 04:57 PM Response to Reply #73 |
116. uh huh.. just tell me what man is going to go without sex |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:31 AM Response to Reply #116 |
183. I'm not saying don't have sex, again I'm saying accept the consequences |
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wildeyed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 08:20 PM Response to Reply #73 |
133. So it is less of a baby because it is the product of rape or incest? |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:28 AM Response to Reply #133 |
182. No its not less of a baby |
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wildeyed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:05 PM Response to Reply #182 |
189. It's either a baby or it isn't. |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:17 PM Response to Reply #189 |
191. I'm not saying its OK |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:40 PM Response to Reply #191 |
199. Having an abortion *is* being responsible |
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wildeyed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 03:45 PM Response to Reply #191 |
205. I don't think the issues is black and white, either. |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 04:38 PM Response to Reply #205 |
206. If this is the choice |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 06:56 PM Response to Reply #206 |
216. who are you to decide what is and is not valid for other people? |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 07:54 PM Response to Reply #206 |
218. Back to my original post....do you want to decrease abortions? |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 09:49 PM Response to Reply #218 |
230. I do support policies to decrease it |
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wildeyed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 08:57 PM Response to Reply #206 |
221. I understand that some people believe that abortion is murder. |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:00 PM Response to Reply #221 |
231. Its more than personal beliefs |
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wildeyed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 08:22 AM Response to Reply #231 |
250. But you said that there should be exceptions in the case of |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 08:54 AM Response to Reply #250 |
254. MandateMyAss has made me rethink that position |
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wildeyed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:39 AM Response to Reply #254 |
255. I am not confusing you with a fundie. |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:46 AM Response to Reply #255 |
256. I agree mostly except for |
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Nobody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 07:39 PM Response to Reply #206 |
295. Actually I do |
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secedeeconomically (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
76. Partial birth abortion is a right wing term not a medical procedure |
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Razorback_Democrat (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:23 AM Response to Reply #76 |
78. This is true, and the ban on partial birth abortions would still have had |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 05:14 PM Response to Reply #78 |
118. you must mean "Late term abortions" |
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nascarblue (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 07:33 AM Response to Reply #78 |
164. Do you want to specify what you mean by ban on partial birth abortions? |
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Razorback_Democrat (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:53 AM Response to Reply #164 |
172. I'm talking about the damned law that congress passed last year |
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Dob Bole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
84. I really think Kerry would have won if he hadn't FUBARED abortion question |
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wildeyed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 08:38 PM Response to Reply #84 |
134. That is a good reply. |
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LisaLL (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
111. preventing pregnancies is the most effective way to reduce abortion |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 04:54 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. prevention vs. punishment...exactly |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 04:59 PM Response to Reply #111 |
117. But its not about preventing unwanted pregnancies |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 09:53 PM Response to Reply #111 |
145. Great post |
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LisaLL (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
115. a missed opportunity |
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TO Kid (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
127. That's a presumptive question |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
128. the argument I remember was does it have a soul. |
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evolvenow (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
129. Controlling Women's reproductive rights decreases their POWER!! |
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evolvenow (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-21-04 06:36 PM Response to Reply #129 |
130. My baby's heart stopped at 3 months, I had to have an abortion or DIE!! |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:18 PM Response to Reply #130 |
235. If your baby was dead, it was NOT an abortion to remove |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:17 PM Response to Reply #235 |
274. Yes it was an abortion Dembones |
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nascarblue (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 07:26 AM Response to Original message |
161. What about the myth of partial birth abortion? |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
168. Question to ask *pro-life* women: |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:51 AM Response to Reply #168 |
186. No I didn't |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:44 PM Response to Reply #186 |
200. rules and laws are often based on power |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 04:52 PM Response to Reply #200 |
208. If we put this issue to the people what do you think the majority would |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 06:43 PM Response to Reply #208 |
215. the majority supports choice |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:03 PM Response to Reply #215 |
232. Do you have any links to back that up? |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:22 PM Response to Reply #232 |
276. why, is your google broken? |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:58 PM Response to Reply #215 |
239. It depends on what surveys ask. A majority support |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:24 PM Response to Reply #239 |
277. not true |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 01:48 AM Response to Reply #208 |
244. The majority is in the middle |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:14 PM Response to Reply #244 |
273. partial birth abortion is a meaningless term |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 06:46 PM Response to Reply #273 |
294. Okay noiretblu, help me out then |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 08:12 PM Response to Reply #294 |
297. this is why polticians need to stop trying to practice medicine |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:19 PM Response to Reply #297 |
300. So the correct name for the scissors in the brain abortion |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 10:05 AM Response to Reply #300 |
305. the majority of voters don't know as much as you do now |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:20 PM Response to Reply #186 |
275. sorry, not buying |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
181. I'm prolife. |
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cags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:53 AM Response to Reply #181 |
187. Beautifully said nt |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:01 PM Response to Reply #181 |
195. Oops. Sorry for being kind of redundant... |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 09:20 PM Response to Reply #181 |
224. Babies as Punishment for Sex You Do Not Approve Of. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 07:48 AM Response to Reply #224 |
247. ??? |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:27 PM Response to Reply #247 |
278. you are either for choice or you are not |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 04:05 PM Response to Reply #278 |
287. No. |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 06:33 PM Response to Reply #247 |
291. It was this comment: |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 08:12 PM Response to Reply #291 |
296. Ok. |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:14 PM Response to Reply #296 |
299. Since this was a thread on abortion |
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RawMaterials (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 10:12 PM Response to Reply #181 |
234. i agree but |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 01:53 AM Response to Reply #234 |
245. The man's right to choose is an interesting idea Rawmaterials |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 02:07 PM Response to Reply #245 |
282. biology IS the double standard |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 09:20 AM Response to Reply #282 |
304. Men can't get pregnant. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 02:39 PM Response to Reply #304 |
309. sure he can say that...and anything else |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:15 PM Response to Reply #309 |
310. You are right; |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 06:28 PM Response to Reply #245 |
290. No. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 08:06 AM Response to Reply #234 |
249. I agree with this, in a limited way. |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
194. I'm pro-life. |
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nascarblue (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
197. I guess I should stop eating eggs then? |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-22-04 11:56 PM Response to Original message |
241. I'm pro-life but I don't want to make abortion illegal. |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:33 PM Response to Reply #241 |
279. Women who can deliver a live birth by cesarean |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 02:03 PM Response to Reply #241 |
281. how can you be careful when no birth control is 100% effective? |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 07:28 AM Response to Reply #281 |
303. In the Depression, couples practiced contraception very effectively |
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Nightwing (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 07:57 AM Response to Original message |
248. I am pro life |
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brainshrub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
258. I'm pro-life, not pro-birth. |
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proudbluestater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
268. I think the debate should be changed to different terms |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 08:19 PM Response to Reply #288 |
298. those words excluded women when they were written eom |
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stuartmill (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 11:23 PM Response to Reply #298 |
301. those words excluded women when they were written eom |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 10:09 AM Response to Reply #301 |
306. fear of being aborted? |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 11:47 PM Response to Reply #298 |
302. Also excluded fetuses |
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