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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 10:33 AM Original message |
Is it finally time for a divorce ? |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
1. Good metaphor |
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ewagner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
2. Sort of like root canal |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
3. Al From fiddles while Democracy burns... |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
4. The DNC Chairmanship tells the story |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 11:20 AM Response to Reply #4 |
19. Who on the list would you consider a DLC toadie? |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 11:34 AM Response to Reply #19 |
27. I'll wait to evaluate until after the Chairmanship is announced |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 11:39 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. But shouldn't you pick someone you can campaign for? |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 11:48 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. I'm lobbying for Dean |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 11:52 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. I would like Dean the most. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 11:54 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Frost is the choice of the DLC... |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 11:57 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Ya think? Where did you see that, I'm curious? |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 12:08 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. I have followed him for years.... |
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BigMcLargehuge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
5. they complete their conversion to the dark side |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
6. Howard Dean is a threat only in that the PEOPLE are a threat. |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 10:50 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. we are all supporting (or attacking) the metaphor that is Dean |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 11:02 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Dean won't take the job unless he is allowed to reform |
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quiet.american (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
7. People-Powered Howard! |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
8. Are we speculating about the big announcement today? |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 11:03 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. What announcement? |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 11:04 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Crap. It's not today, it's tomorrow. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 11:06 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Oh, yeah. The speech. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 11:32 AM Response to Reply #8 |
26. I'm not sure he's going to let us know yet. |
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chaska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 11:43 AM Response to Reply #8 |
32. We need to remember it's the middle that's moveable, not the base. |
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mandyky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 01:55 PM Response to Reply #8 |
53. I think it is more about the future of the Democratic Party |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
14. I wonder. . . |
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m berst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 01:30 PM Response to Reply #14 |
49. talking about that |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
15. Dean is no lefty liberal |
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chaska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 11:46 AM Response to Reply #15 |
33. I agree, that whole scream thing was a con by the powers that be... |
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IStriker (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 04:40 PM Response to Reply #33 |
59. I agree... |
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InvisibleBallots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
16. Dean doesn't have enough support to run as an independent |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 11:18 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Nobody said "independent" - we said "Independent Democrat".... |
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InvisibleBallots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 11:22 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Dean's wing of the Democratic party isn't big enough to win |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 11:28 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. No wing is big enough to win at this time, it seems, but..... |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 11:35 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. So do I. |
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Bush was AWOL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 10:44 PM Response to Reply #20 |
71. I wouldn't vote for Dean over another Democrat |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
17. To further define the analogy.... |
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YIMA (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 11:27 AM Response to Reply #17 |
22. I made that point on the other thread. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 11:42 AM Response to Reply #22 |
31. Yes. We will leave but we'll take the house and the kids..... |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
21. Howard Dean or someone like him are the future of the party |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
23. are we doing litmus tests to see who is a "Democrat" |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 11:30 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. No, we are fighting the litmus tests from Dems like AL From and the DLC |
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Voltaire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 12:39 PM Response to Reply #23 |
44. Lightning Rod for the Repukes???? |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 01:14 PM Response to Reply #23 |
46. Who cares what the Republican party thinks???? |
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renaissanceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 01:45 PM Response to Reply #23 |
51. No, he wouldn't be good...he'd be fantastic |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 02:06 PM Response to Reply #23 |
54. You just succinctly summed up the problems |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
28. You bet. |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
35. The apparent purpose of the DLC is to neutralize and destroy the |
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Wind Dancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 12:01 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Bingo! |
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chaska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
39. I suspect that the DLC faction will grow even stronger as... |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
42. Try getting your state DNC representatives to do THIS: |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 12:36 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. That is a must read and a must do |
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Edgewater_Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
45. My Answer: Not Right Away |
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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
47. howard dean or DLC.....that's a hard choice.nt |
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Harlan James (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
48. Internal Struggle Makes Us Stronger |
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CornField (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
50. If you love something, set it free |
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mandyky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
52. I even came up with a name for the new Dean Independent Party |
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Nordic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 03:59 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. I hope you're not serious |
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mandyky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 08:21 PM Response to Reply #57 |
68. I was sorta kidding |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
55. I think the DLC can save the party. |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 04:15 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Speaking of Beinart and the DLC... |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 07:39 PM Response to Reply #58 |
67. Phillips' #6 actually looks pretty good to me, when I think about it ..... |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 04:46 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. I heard Bienart's arguments on AAR today. |
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Quill Pen (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 06:04 PM Response to Reply #55 |
65. Islamist totalitarianism = Vietnam |
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Nordic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
56. I am done with the Democratic Party, but I will follow Dean |
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IStriker (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 04:47 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. I have not made up my mind what I will do... |
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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
60. Al From can kiss my Cuban ass |
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MaroonVette (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 06:01 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Cuban or Cuban-American |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 06:36 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. And this matters... why? (nt) |
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MaroonVette (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 10:34 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Only that he is able to vote against or for an American candidate |
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MaroonVette (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
63. It depends on how far left the split was |
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Bush was AWOL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 10:49 PM Response to Reply #63 |
72. edited |
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Bush was AWOL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 10:41 PM Response to Original message |
70. If he runs as an independent they will absolutely destroy him |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 11:20 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. They will damn well try. They will trash anyone not of their own choosing. |
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Samantha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 11:18 PM Response to Original message |
73. I already divorced myself from the DLC |
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KnowerOfLogic (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-04 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
75. Time to divorce the DNC, DLC, and the Confederacy. nt |
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