Most people sense that something is wrong but they can't put their finger

[kentuck]

...on it...Something is rotten in Denmark. They smell it but they can't see it. Even Republicans sense something is askew. But no one is capable of defining what it is...

Yes, they believe Bush got the most votes in the last election. They do not doubt that. But it is the manner in which he got those votes that bother these folks. There is something unacceptable about winning an election by tearing down your opponent. Especially when every indicator said you did not deserve to win. It has left a bad taste in the mouths of a lot of folks.

We are still left with a quagmire in Iraq which has seen over 100 American troops die this month. We are still left with record deficits that are scaring the rest of the world more than it is this White House. And we have the dollar that has plummeted to a record low against the Euro. And, even with all this, this White House is talking about a "mandate". Something or someone is out of touch with reality and many Americans are very uncomfortable with this present predicament...

[indigobusiness]

1. The creeping dread

is all around.

[kentuck]

4. The images in your mirror are closer than appear...

and they are an illusion...

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

2. We're neck deep in the muddy water

and the damn fool says to push on....to paraphrase a song sung by Pete Seegar years ago. He was referring to Viet Nam, but I think it is still apt today.

[bullimiami]

3. like today this op/ed in the nyt

this quote "We're still trying to puzzle out which voters he had in mind." says it all.
its obvious that it doesnt add up but they dont or wont connect the dots.
they are forced into doublethink trying to accept that people who didnt approve of bush (47%) and are concerned about the environment ; voted for him anyway.






November 26, 2004
EDITORIAL

The Real Environmental Mandate





Michael Leavitt, who runs the Environmental Protection Agency, declared recently that the voters on Election Day had delivered a clear mandate for President Bush's environmental policies, a "validation of our philosophy and agenda."


We're still trying to puzzle out which voters he had in mind. For one thing, environmental issues - as well as related energy issues - rarely broke the surface of the campaign. That was a shame, since these are important matters and the candidates' views differed just as sharply as they did on other issues. But the electorate can hardly be said to have delivered a mandate on something they weren't even asked to think about.


To the extent that voters registered an opinion on environmental issues, they did it in local settings, and they consistently asked for more environmental protection than Mr. Bush has been offering them. With rare exceptions, the administration's operating mode has been to remove or roll back legal safeguards without putting much in their place, including the free-market solutions advertised as a substitute for regulations. This was true whether the issue was clean air, clean water or protecting the public lands from logging, destructive mining practices, overgrazing, and oil and gas drilling.


The voters sent a different message. In Colorado, a healthy majority approved a ballot initiative requiring electric utilities to generate 10 percent of their power from renewable sources by 2015, a more aggressive approach than any so far offered on the federal level. In Montana, despite heavy industry lobbying, an even greater majority upheld a prohibition on mining practices that pollute rivers and streams with toxic wastes - a brave vote in a poor state that needs jobs.


Nationwide, voters in red states as well as blue approved $2.53 billion worth of new bond issues to preserve open space - a clear rebuke to a Congress that has dramatically cut financing for land acquisition and to an administration that insists on opening up the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge for oil drilling.


Though Mr. Leavitt's comments suggest that we can expect more of the same - more rollbacks dressed up as "sound science," more "market-based solutions" that are merely cover for needless delay - the administration has not really unveiled its plans. It is possible therefore that we could be pleasantly surprised. We could see a clean air program with teeth, we could see real money for the conservation programs in the farm bill, we could see energy legislation targeted more toward new technologies and conservation and less to the old extractive industries, we could see a public lands policy that spares our last wild places. That would be a fitting response to what the public really said on Nov. 2.

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[bush_is_wacko]

6. The article should have mentioned...

That we in Colorado, not only passed a ballot initiative for renewable energy. Despite a phenomenal amount of money being spent by BushCo to smear Democratic candidate Ken Salazar ( I think it was somewhere in the vicinity of $5 million) Coloradoans sent Pete Coors, the most prolific environmental polluter in the last century, packing. They replaced Republican Senator Ben Nighthorse Cambell with a Democrat!

This article is a great start, but there are MANY more issues from this Nov. election that should be BIG TIME clues something is amiss!

Why does no one mention that pompous chimps decision to be seen gloating in the middle of our election night coverage?

[zippy890]

5. Yes, an UNEASINESS pervades our land

I feel it especially hear in Massachusetts,

But I notice it on tv, the news shows, like everybody's talking AROUND the big issue, ignoring the OBVIOUS

THE WRONG THING HAPPENED ON NOV 2

[kentuck]

8. Yes, even if he got more votes....

Something wrong happened on Nov 2nd...But how could it be wrong if he got the most votes?? Even if he did it with character assassination, he still got the most votes. And isn't that the only criteria that matters on election day? It's almost like the wrestler that had a bar of soap hid in his trunks and rubs it in the eyes of his opponent while the referee (press) is not looking. Then he is declared the champion as his opponent falls to the floor blinded by the dirty deeds. He waves the championship belt above his head and smirks and struts around the ring...

[skooooo]

9. I thought the uneasiness started after ..

...the last election in 2000. What's so different now? I purposefully have not been paying attention to the media. How is it so obvious.

[onethatcares]

12. it has gotten deeper,

the last holiday has come and gone, the next one approaches and no one is smiling, no one is looking at all happy. Are we waiting for the shoe to drop? We are, as a previous poster stated, neck deep in the big muddy and the damn fool keeps saying "push on".

Today's news about the dollar didn't look too great either.

[BrklynLiberal]

48. LOVE THE IMPROVED SIGN!!!!!

[distantearlywarning]

7. I woke up for the third time this week in the middle of the night

with a intense sensation of anxiety. I don't think I was dreaming. I just woke up and was quite frightened and then couldn't get back to sleep because I started thinking about what's going on the US and in the world.

I have never before in my memory had such a long period of feeling "off-kilter" about something that was happening in the world. Ever since Nov 2, I have had sort of a weird sick feeling in my heart - it vacillates between a mild nagging to outright fear, but it never goes away. It's actually starting to freak me out.

I have a gift for immediately ferreting out "badness" in other people and sometimes situations. Gamers will recognize this reference: my fiance always calls it "detection of evil 10' radius", and that's kind of what it is. I very rarely miss or am wrong about the evil motives and character of other people - I get a funny feeling. I don't know what it is. I'm not much of a believer in parapsychology, so I think it might just be something I pick up in subtle gestures or tone of voice or something.

Anyway, what's odd is that I keep feeling the "detection of evil 10' radius" feeling all the time now, but not attached to any specific person. I am starting to wonder if maybe the nebulous "bad guys" in Washington were hiding their "evil light" prior to Nov 2, but now they've taken the cover off and it's like a beacon to bad people everywhere - those of us who have a little intuition about people are sort of sensing it, or something. But that makes me sound like a tinfoil hatter. Sorry. I am generally much more rational than this.

Anybody else experiencing this or having weird/bad dreams? I've had a few of those too (I posted one of those the other day).

[indigobusiness]

15. I know what you mean. I've had the same. Plus the "radar".

The day Princess Di was killed, I walked around all day mumbling to anyone that would listen about an overwhelming sense of dread.

I knew something dark was approaching. When I made it home a flicked on the news, the wreck had just happened and I understood my foreboding.

You are lucky to sense badness in people, you could make a big difference in the world if you put that to good use. You are blessed, not crazy.

[glitch]

16. It's not you, it's them. The genuine nasties in the country feel they can

be even more visible, their leader has been validated.

Or so they think.

Trust your instincts, but don't let them get you down. Just keep on keeping alert and try to be patient. This 'waiting for the other shoe to drop' period my take awhile. :hi:

[ailsagirl]

53. One thing is for sure

Our country-- the world-- cannot take another four years of systematic destruction. Something has to give.

We're teetering on the brink as it is-- no way can we endure another term... too many things are already stretched to the limit.

And when they snap...

[Andromeda]

23. I feel the same way...

I call it being perceptive, intuitive or you could even call it psychic.

When we were living in caves and using crude weapons to kill our food with we were blessed with the ability to sense danger. These senses are innate in all of us and are necessary for our survival.

About a week before this election I had a sense of foreboding and dread -- still do. I know a lot of people felt the same way so you're not alone.

Just listen to those feelings and know that they are there for a reason.

[Ladyhawk]

66. I had a pre-election panic attack over the possibility of fraud.

When I posted, people thought I hadn't heard about the possibility of election fraud. Not so. I'd been keeping up with it. But a post I read sent me over the edge. Someone even claimed that the election would definitely be stolen.

After that, I went back to la-la land where Kerry would win and we would start to recover. Now I'm back in the land of constant anxiety.

[yorkiemommie1]

32. i can't sleep

i need the tv (tvland or other such nonsense) to lull me to sleep. i feel as it the sky has gone orange on my 'swiftly tilting planet'.

people tell me, 'you don't look happy'. and no i don't because i. am. not. happy.

i'm scared. every day brings some more ominous news from bushco.

i feel like a refugee in my own world. the only thing that keeps me sane is that there are so many others like me who feel the same way.

i do feel that something evil came this way.

[Ilsa]

46. I had it really bad last Wednesday and Thursday morning, yes

Thanksgiving Day. A sense of dread, like something big and awful was going to happen very soon, or was in the works at that moment. I rarely get those feelings, and it felt personal, but bigger than me. Like a conspiracy is brewing, and it is a deeply sinister one.

Here's a couple of stories about other occasions:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=245x870

So far, no bad dreams.

[nadinbrzezinski]

47. hmm time to bring out my Enchanted Blade out

and you are under estimating it, this is detect evil at 100 feet...

Still not only got the reference, but I have done the same with dreams... boy it is getting bad.

[BrklynLiberal]

50. Gosh..so I am not the only one!!!!

Been thinking I need to up my meds!!
It is actually something that is going on in this world!!
The "evil" or something is pervasive, and I think we are starting to feel it. I have also been up in the middle of the night with a knot in the pit of my stomach and a vague anxiety about what is going to happen to this world.
The people in Washington scare the Hell out of me, and I cannot understand how they don't make everyone feel the same way.

[Ladyhawk]

65. I've been having extremely vivid dreams.

Strangely, most of them have been good. When I wake up...that's the nightmare. I hate being awake because this pervasive sense of dread just washes over me.

The only "bad" dream I can recall is the dream in which I was the Vampire Lestat. I woke up scared and posted it in the Lounge.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=2065553

[Mr_Spock]

10. So true. None of the freepers I know will defend him or even admit they

voted for the fool. It's like they know they are going to be culpable for the results of his actions and they are pretty sure the result isn't going to be good. It's kind of nice actually watching them walk away with their head down when a minimal amount of facts are presented.

[Me.]

49. "Lives By The Sword, Dies By The Sword"

Has been on my mind for 2 days.

[kentuck]

11. And he gets his strength from the "division"....

The more his opponents oppose him, the more his supporters will get behind him. The division has been an important factor in his strategy. He relishes a vocal opposition because, unknowingly, they are helping him to survive. What a strange, weird world we are living in...

[cassiepriam]

13. not strange, SICK nt

[clover]

14. you are not alone! we are legion.

i don't know anyone who isn't darkly distracted these days. many of us have been unsettled since 2000, confused since 9/11/01--when the press reports didn't jibe with intuitive and rational truths--elated in the months leading to the election, and shot in the heart november 3, 2004. the old medications don't work anymore: shopping, joyriding, teevee, gossip, and scandal have all been infiltrated with the moral truth that something essential is awry. i believe that many of us have cleaned out our barns--methaphorically if not actually--sweeping away old patterns and debris, preparing for the judgment that capitalism is beginning to experience in its last wicked breaths. folks i know are distancing themselves--in all ways--from the machinery, so as to avoid the shrapnel when it blows. i believe that this is a very good time, over time we'll see these years as ones in which the veil was pulled from the whore, which is male, by the way. i know that what we do on the smallest scale is replicated grandly: each good, honest moment resonates far from the ring of our focused perceptions. i try to treat my life and my surroundings as i would treat a beloved only child. consider these dreams as proof of your good heart and alert soul, and as a connection to the future.

[skooooo]

17. right after the election...

I started watching all of these horror flicks. It seemed easier to deal with than the true horrible reality.

[clover]

18. yes!!! my wife and i became obsessed with serial

killer documentaries because we could understand, on some level, their motivations, as opposed to bushetc. our son, when we asked him what he believes is the motivation of the ruling class at this time, said simply, as he always does: "money. just money." the horror of that.

[indigobusiness]

19. I've read your statements here and am in complete agreement.

Someway of focusing energy of like-minded people must be available. I feel like I'm tilting at windmills here.

[Arianrhod]

56. I don't know if you're aware of the Prayer Circle

that takes place here on DU. The thread is here, in Groups:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=237

I find this to be a good means for me to focus my energy on particular issues, to clear my thoughts and renew my creativity (which has been all but dead this past year). It's interesting to me, that just the knowledge that others are focusing on the same things at the same time is very uplifting.

I don't know if this kind of thing appeals to you, but the way you worded your post caught my attention. :)

[ilovenicepeople]

42. I think it's more about power than money or greed.

[Ladyhawk]

68. I read Stephen King novels and they were a relief compared to this...

sense of dread.

[indigobusiness]

20. It's beginning to feel like NIGHT OF THE FRICKING DEAD

out there.

Little pockets of sanity and sunshine in a poisoned, pointless
forest. And me with no dog to fetch my triangle.

The stress is palpable. When the real-estate bubble pops, it is going to get real ugly, real fast.

[shesemsmom]

21. 59 million people

are taking the rest of us to hell, that's what is in the air. I hope they are all happy. I am counting the days to say I TOLD SO!!!!!!

[Lydia Leftcoast]

22. "By their fruits shall ye know them."

I have a built-in "creep detector" as well, and these people just set it off, not to mention the way their deeds seem to have only evil results.

Some serious brainwashing is going on here, and I learned yesterday at Thanksgiving dinner that my Republican brother listens to Fox News all the time he's home. Ironically, he's the only one of us who isn't religious, but those hours of Fox News more than make up for attendance at a megachurch.

I get funny looks when I tell people that there's something suspicious about the way these suburban megachurches spring up like mushrooms, but the way they seem to be 100% for the Republicanites and the way they create a "total information environment" for their people gives me the creeps.

They learned from the Moonies about recruiting alienated, lonely people (the typical exurbanite), "love bombing" them, and keeping them away from other sources of information.

[atommom]

60. ITA about the megachurches.

I have relatives who attend them, and it is creepy how completely the church overtakes their lives. Church activities are scheduled to occupy all of the parishioners' free time, and there is a lot of political posturing going on. The church leaders encourage their followers to hate and fear the dangerous outside world and the "liberal" media, and mothers are urged to homeschool to protect the children from secular influences. It looks very cult-like to me. :scared:

[Niccolo_Macchiavelli]

24. The feeling is shared...

Since the first selection, the feeling creept to me as if Fate (or whatever you call it)similar to a crossbow is beeing loaded and prepared, stalling before the culmination.

I remember the day when i was in the small parc with a friend and we discussed the matter, sharing our feeling that "this guy" would mean big trouble. He* emotionally was some dark but yet undefinable cloud at the horizon. I didn't know much of him then. But both my knowledge and my feelings have increased. (and sorry to all die-hard Kerry supporters, nothing personal - frankly i didn't feel much better about kerry)

It is the silence before the storm from my perspective, and i am sort of waiting for the next steps for the plot to thicken, to embrace the coming storm and be carried away or stand rather than letting myself be paralyzed and squeezed by the anxiety like a mouse looking into the snakes grasp.

:nuke: :tinfoilhat: :shrug: :nuke:

[Lorien]

54. How are the Swiss feeling about the future in general?

Do you notice that strangers are talking about many of the same things we are here?

[Digit]

25. My post on my feeling of forboding when * hit the scene

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=245x612

Who else here also felt a REAL forboding when * first came on the scene

I didn't even know much about *, but to the core of my being, I knew * was bad news. My warnings fell on deaf ears. I began posting messages to CNN and other websites. I have been fighting ever since, and thank goodness I finally found DU. I REALLY needed to be with like minded individuals.
So I ask you, did anyone else feel like a horrible shadow was about to take over our country?

[eugeneliberal]

28. Yes! That's exactly

how I felt in 2000. Didn't know much about * either, but I had this deeply bad feeling about him. It was after that election that I began to search the Internet for other like-minded individuals as well. Fortunately, I found Buzzflash, Bartcop, and DU, among many others, and it's helped me keep my sanity lo these past four years. I think that's the hardest to deal with--the idea that we have four more years of him. Frankly, I'm beginning to feel rather weary of the near-daily outrage that comes forth from this administration.

[oddtext]

55. feel EXACTLY the same

2000 was the armageddon election. in that election, i knew. for me it was like Nafta when i worked phones. i knew bush had to be beat. since then my rage has slowly dissipated. i now know that what must be, will be. dunno what that is, but it must happen. but, WE the PEOPLE, still have power. i have decided to run for office, even if it is for dogcatcher, i'm going to look into it. we've got to continue to fight, if not with rage, then smarter, better more efficiently.

[Ilsa]

64. I'm in Texas, and I felt it before then, like in the early 1990's

when he bought out the Texas Rangers and then proposed taxing the residents of Arlington to pay for his stadium. I remember that I figured he was looking to run for gov, then prez, and I kept wishing someone would take him down.

But he seemed more and more like Damien from The Omen movies: there was always someone to take the fall for him and anyone that slung mud at him got it thrown back at themselves. He seemed like an arising evil force back then. And not just him, but everything and everyone around him.

BTW, I'm glad we've documented our intuitive feelings of discomfort here.

[SharonAnn]

69. That explains this quote in the article about Rove in Newsweek

Rove Unleashed
For the past 30 years he's focused like a laser on George W. Bush. What does Karl Rove do for an encore? The plans for a permanent GOP majority

..."I'm there with the keys and this guy comes striding in wearing jeans, cowboy boots and a bomber jacket," he recalls. "He had this aura." Which is how 22-year-old Karl Christian Rove met 27-year-old George Walker Bush.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6596809/site/newsweek/

[Dan]

26. I think what we are beginning to sense...

is the death of a nation, or rather a United States of America - and what we have historically stood for.

The divide is too great. I don't relate this to the simplistic view of the morality of the Red States or lack of morality within the Blue States. But rather, to me, it began (in concrete terms) the day this nation invaded Iraq.

I've wanted to put this question to our Red States: If a foreign power decided that it did not like our form of government, leadership and as are result of that dislike, invaded America. Overthrew and imprisoned American political leaders (aside from our US Congress which would sell out, fifteen minutes into the battle, with few exceptions) defeated our military, imposed an army of occupation & installed a puppet government. My question - would Americans that fought the puppet government, the army of occupation - would they be considered terrorist or patriots?

[indigobusiness]

27. The pillars that support this country

are being undermined by a false ideology. The erosion of the underpinnings is already at a critical level, with no relief in sight.

There seems to be something akin to millenial madness happening. Trashing the planet and cutting our own metaphorical throat seems perfectly acceptable to this madness.

There is something coming at us, this sort of powerful foreboding isn't likely a false harbinger. Help who you can.

[Arianrhod]

57. YES! "Help who you can."

My philosophy exactly.

[yorkiemommie1]

33. i want to ask them that too..

but i guarantee no freeper will give you a coherent answer.

[0007]

38. Screw them slimmy fucking money lords that hide behind Jays'us

[Ima]

39. From reading History

"My question - would Americans that fought the puppet government, the army of occupation - would they be considered terrorist or patriots?"


I believe we would all suffer. Think of the German people after WW1.Many of them had nothing to do with the war, but suffered none the less. We would have to pay 'reparations' to every country.

[Steely_Dan]

29. "The Horror...

...the horror."

- Brando

[Gloria]

30. Perhaps when all the little fetuses get damaged by mercury

poisoning and other environmental attacks, the oppressors who voted for Bush will wake up. But I doubt it. They are a sick bunch....

[indigobusiness]

31. Are you kidding?

They rely on brain-damage.

[corker]

34. I seem to be up and down allot

it is the uncertainty that gets me, waiting for the whole thing to come crashing down. I am glad I am not the only one who feels this way. My wife feels the same way she said its like living in a foreign country,don't like it one bit.

[mbee]

35. What if a bill came up for a vote in the congress and the Dems locked

the pugs out and just voted without them. Based on how our election was conducted it would seem O.K. to me for them to do with and get away with it. Or What if they were allowed in and both parties voted, but all the pug votes on a bill automatically became Dem votes?
Something to think about.

[Carl Brennan]

36. Watching other countries forming alliances like

Venezuela and Russia, and China and Cuba. China dumping its dollars. They are ignoring the US because they know the US is losing power fast and incapable of challenging them, even diplomatically. This is not to say that the US should challenge these alliances, but if Bush was able he would subvert these alliances in accordance with his fascist PNAC mindset.
The US is headed down the tubes. Bush has a stranglehold on the government and voting is now dead. Iraq is a disaster that this administration has largely covered up. Like not telling the passengers on a sinking ship the bad news. Bush's constituency is acting just like they always have and will never utter a peep in protest. They will send their kids off to wars until our economic downturn forces us to quit.

I'd leave the US if I could. There is only one thing left to work on and that is correcting the voting system. If that cannot be done then all is truly lost. What is going to have to happen is large numbers of Repugs abandoning Bush, but I don't see that happening. They are theocratic loonies. This talk about the "old conservatives" reasserting themselves is complete BS.

If more countries start dumping dollars then the next question is how long will we be able to wage these wars? I don't know that answer. I keep remembering what Cheney said: "Deficits don't matter". I still don't know what he meant.

Our energy policy is based on BFEE oil and they will not let a saner approach involving renewables be developed. They have the money and power to prevent anything but oil from being used. Even if they cannot control the supply the way they want they can stop any competitor cold. All they care about is their own power and will ride the ship of state to the bottom.

[H2O Man]

44. There is a simple formula .....

When we look at empires, and try to measure the point that they begin to decline, historians will often focus on the extension of the military. This is important; however, an empire is an empire because it can enforce "trade" relationships in a favorable manner because of the military extensions. The actual formula to consider is much simpler: when an empire becomes more destructive than constructive, it hits the rapid decay phase.

Our country is faced with this today. We are far more destructive than constructive. It's not limited to a democrat vs republican or black vs white deal. We can not realistically hope for election reform while we function at the same destructive level we are. You mention the energy policy: it is the single best example of the formula I am suggesting here.

[Carl Brennan]

58. It's called "Imperial overstretch". nt

[seemslikeadream]

59. BROKEN TREATIES

and the theft of this land from the Native Americans.

Many think Tecumseh curse was broken with george bush.

Maybe it's just finally reached the beginning stages of it's goal the death of the United States government.




It Is A Good Day To Die

The general rode for sixteen days
The horses were thirsty and tired
On the trail of a renegade chief
One he'd come to admire
The soldiers hid behind the hills
That surrounded the village
And he rode down to warn the chief
They'd come to conquer and pillage

Lay down your arms
Lay down your spear
The chief's eyes were sad
But showed no sign of fear

It is a good day to die
Oh my children dry your eyes
It is a good day to die

He spoke of the days before the white man came
With his guns and whisky
He told of a time a long time ago
Before what you call history
The general couldn't believe his words
Nor the look on his face
But he knew these people would rather die
Then have to live in this disgrace

What law have I broken
What wrong have I done
That makes you want to bury me
Upon this trail of blood


We cared for the land and the land cared for us
And that's the way it's always been
Never asked for more never asked too much
And now you tell me this is the end

I laid down my weapon
Laid down my bow
Now you want to drive me out
With no place left to go


And he turned to his people and said dry your eyes
We've been blessed and we are thankful
Raise your voices to the sky
It is a good day to die

-- Robbie Robertson

[Hippo_Tron]

37. My analysis about who won the election...

#1 BBV was a factor but not necesarilly enough of a factor to turn Ohio to Kerry.

NOW, add to that flyers circulating in Ohio that say if you were registered by the NAACP or the Kerry campaign you aren't legally registered, and every other dirty trick that the GOP pulled and I guarantee you that the electio would at least be close enough for Kerry to not have conceded.

[Conservativesux]

40. The Sheep won't see it until they get thier pinkslips...

Lose the house, the cars, ect.....

Good bye Middle Class, Hello poverty.

[orpupilofnature57]

41. Its subconsciously,ruing the reason,why half of us are in the dark

[vickie]

43. Kentuck: I agree with what you're saying, but what makes you

Think Republicans since something is wrong or amiss? They seem to be quite sanctimonious and smug from hat I can see...

Please let me know what you're referring to. Thank you in advance.

Vickie Carter
Redondo Beach, CA

[natrat]

45. something is wrong and it dont take much to figure it out

there is a deluded group of psychopaths in the white house
and this country is over it's eyeballs in debt and the world is about to collect on it

[progmom]

51. I feel it too...

...and I am scared beyond belief. I think my family and friends are ready to have me committed. At Thanksgiving, my parents asked me when I had become so cynical. I'm just having trouble seeing any good coming our way any time soon, and that scares the crap out of me.
What will my two-year-old have for his future? Will we be able to send him to college? Will he ever he able to buy a house? Will we be able to keep ours??

[lumpy]

52. We are sinking into that quagmire

and there is no lifeline in sight. So many problems and no solutions coupled with the most inept corrupt leadership the US has ever experienced.

[reverendpatrick]

61. Uneasiness.

That's putting it mildly!

[wildflower]

62. Very anxious here...

About many things: economic collapse, environmental destruction, the stacking of the Supreme Court, Republican cloture, the endangering of women's lives, the complete erosion of civil liberties, and nuclear war, just to name a few.

And then last night I was listening to Laura Flanders talk about disabled, sick, old, and/or retired military people who are being forced into active duty to go to Iraq. Anyone hear these stories?

And they speculated on when the draft was coming. I am chronically ill and am just not physically capable; I just don't know what I would do.

If Republicans are anxious too, maybe the congress can still do something about all of these issues. (?)

-wildflower

[neebob]

63. Most people?

Sure, if you mean most people who didn't vote for Bush. Most of the ones who did seem to think everything is just ducky, and it's a Christian nation now and everything.

That company acquiring my cable operator and changing the Channel 2 audio to Christian radio? That wouldn't have happened before the election - not where I live, anyway. And everyone here's all, "Oh, just get Dish Network."

Okay, I'll do that. But I know it was just the first of many such brazen impositions, and it won't be long before complaints don't work. I'll bet a couple of my neighbors have complained about the Christian station being changed back to NPR. It won't be long before Chrstian music is playing everywhere.

There are not one but two greedy bullshit wars going on, and another one in the works, while more and more Americans lose their jobs and their health care and descend into poverty, and Bush asks for money to be spent on abstinence education and puts out a holiday message asking everyone to do volunteer work. And they say he's a Godly man and pray for him and put up a billboard that says "Our Leader." It won't be long before there are more billboards, and TV ads, and statues, and portraits in the schools.

Sure, a lot of people and even some Republicans are uncomfortable with Bush. I know two of them, but they voted for him anyway. And that, my friends, is what's scary.

[AuntPatsy]

67. A video of he who lies but has trouble admitting he has made

mistakes, this was made to help him see them....other's as well..

http://www.hategun.com/features/mistaken/index.html