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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 07:25 AM Original message |
The Electoral College is a vestigial remain of Slavery.. It's gotta GO.. |
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orpupilofnature57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
1. first we have to get lottery speed,accuracy type voting machines |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 07:40 AM Response to Original message |
2. electoral college is the best protection against fraud we have! |
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rogerashton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 07:50 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Just the opposite. |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 08:09 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. what an insulting response. |
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rogerashton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 05:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
19. If you had any evidence or any |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 05:57 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. not sure what kind of "evidence" you're looking for here |
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Pepperbelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 06:16 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. horseshit ... |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 11:51 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. i love it when people back me up with profanity! |
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Pepperbelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-21-04 08:12 AM Response to Reply #35 |
43. I do not know if the problem is congitive or merely perceptive in ... |
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rogerashton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-21-04 08:28 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. I still haven't seen an actual argument that it is probable, |
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Pepperbelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-21-04 08:42 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. it is always about possibles when ... |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-21-04 11:05 AM Response to Reply #46 |
50. why are you afraid to use reason or common sense? |
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rogerashton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-21-04 04:19 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. I am using reason and common sense. |
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BlueCaliDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 06:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
27. You Can Honestly Claim That After These Past Three Elections???..N/T |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-21-04 12:30 AM Response to Reply #27 |
36. i never said that the our elections were fraud-free |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 07:56 AM Response to Original message |
4. My understanding is |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 08:11 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. You are exactly right.. and the CA citizens contribute a TON more |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 08:13 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. so ... you are recommending vote by $$$ contributed |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 08:22 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Not exactly... just a comment on the facts of the matter |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 08:15 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. yes and no |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 08:03 AM Response to Original message |
5. it is about the construction of the US |
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rogerashton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 05:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
20. Makes sense to me, but |
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bullimiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 08:26 AM Response to Original message |
11. I thought so too until they stole millions of votes. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 08:29 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Except for the fact that probably a lot of Kansas Dems do not vote |
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American Tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 07:31 PM Response to Reply #12 |
32. I know plenty of people who feel that way, and act in kind |
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Pepperbelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
13. I have one question for you, friend SoCalDem ... |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 08:47 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Abolishing the whole thing for starters and making universal rules |
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rogerashton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 05:28 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. Do the math. |
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Pepperbelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 05:34 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. No, each is pretty much exactly the same in population. |
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rogerashton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-21-04 08:25 AM Response to Reply #22 |
45. That's PURE theory. |
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Pepperbelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-21-04 05:21 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. where do you come up with this shit? |
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American Tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 07:26 PM Response to Reply #13 |
31. Not really |
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kodi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
15. its a vestige of federalism where states have rights in a federation |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
16. I'd be in favor of changing the EC |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 09:47 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Making the candidates campaign everywhere.... |
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xequals (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
18. We are the United STATES of America, not |
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F.Gordon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
23. Bullshit!! We are a "free republic" |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
24. Do we really want to convene a constitutional convention now? |
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F.Gordon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 06:10 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. I agree |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
29. How's about we go back to the original idea? |
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rogerashton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-21-04 08:32 AM Response to Reply #29 |
47. How bout: because it never worked that way in the first place? |
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American Tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
30. The electoral college is a great excuse to not vote |
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shockra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
33. I read that article at The Black Commentator last week |
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UNIXcock (464 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-20-04 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
34. I have never really appreciated the theory behind the EC |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-21-04 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
37. Four fallacies believed by EC supporters: |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-21-04 01:01 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Exactly.. "small states".. |
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Newshues (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-21-04 02:07 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. no direct democracy has withstood the test of time |
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Newshues (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-21-04 02:13 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. maybe I should be more clear |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-21-04 02:19 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Probably where they are right now.. crumbling before our very eyes., |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-21-04 02:20 AM Response to Original message |
42. There are times when we're 50 states and times when we're ONE nation |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-21-04 08:17 AM Response to Original message |
44. The electoral college isn't going anywhere |
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rogerashton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-21-04 08:36 AM Response to Reply #44 |
48. That rationale could be made against ANY reform, |
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