Bill to screen kids for mental disorders tied to education appropriations

[doni_georgia]

bill. I was reading up on this bill yesterday and noticed that it is tied to education appropriations. As sinister as it is to want to dope scores of children, think about this for a minute. They tie the bill to appropriations for education. That way anyone who votes against it is voting against FUNDING education! How brilliant! These guys are really genius! Any Dem that votes against the measure will have the fact that they voted against education funding thrown in their faces when they come up for reelection. The sheeple are unable to read for themselves, so they will believe what they hear and those anti-education dems will be sent packing. You have to admit that these repugs are diabolically brilliant.

[Scooter24]

1. Ha..

I fucking knew that it would have been tied to something.

Isn't there a procedure to vote on amendments to the bills? It could be possible that the said amendment could be voted off of the bill.

[katmondoo]

4. Why can't the Democrats get the information out to the people

about why they vote against a bill? If John Kerry had explained why he voted against a bill and why he voted for a bill at the time he voted, his positions wouldn't have been challenged. The Senators and Reps do not do enough to inform the public as to their decisions. All we know is the bill is either passed or not, never the why.

[Cobalt Violet]

9. They own the media.

:(

[ComerPerro]

17. Kerry did explain. The problem is the public

They don't want to think about the complexities of the issues, and what reasoning goes into each vote. All they want is sound bytes, like "Kerry voted against the troops" and "Democrats are voting against education". Same shit happened with the Partial-birth abortion BS.

The public doesn't give a shit, because the public is lazy and doesn't want to think. The Republicans recognize this, and they have acted accordingly. They manipulate the legislative progress to either force their agenda or sabatoge Dem re-election, and they tell the public comfortable lies that they know they want to hear.

It works. It works very well. That (in addition to scaring the hell out of everyone with war and 9/11) is how Bush got "four more years".

[nytemare]

2. From what I read on it

the mental health initiative part is pork attached to a "New Freedom Initiative" to help integrate the disabled into the workforce. Makes you wish we had line item veto power again.

[bowens43]

6. but 'we' are not in control. Line item veto would do no good.

You can be sure that a drugged populace is exactly what the fascists who have hi-jacked our nation want to create. Those who may eventually oppose them will be sedated for their own good.

[nytemare]

18. In this case that is true

It is too bad. I do believe line item veto and the ability to cut or adapt pork by both houses would be a good thing...except when you figure in this President and this congress.

[DebJ]

3. got a link? Please?

[doni_georgia]

5. links - all conservative sources, couldn't find anything in mainstream

http://www.washingtondispatch.com/article_10536.shtml

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41511

http://newstandardnews.net/content/?action=show_item&itemid=614

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCommentary.asp?Page=%5CCommentary%5Carchive%5C200410%5CCOM20041020c.html

[Nordic]

19. thanks for those links, they actually aren't very conservative

and the last one is especially good

As a parent, this really concerns me.

It's one step closer to totalitianism.

[Nordic]

20. check out this quote from Ron Paul

In his commentary on Mental Health Screening for Kids, Paul wrote, "It''s not hard to imagine a time 20 or 30 years from now when government psychiatrists stigmatize children whose religious, social, or political values do not comport with those of the politically correct, secular state."

[skooooo]

7. Pukers aren't going to like this....

Even they recognize it for what it is.

[sam sarrha]

8. The RepugNuts have been posioning bills for Generations, nothing new there

that how they work, they have evolved on a diet of dirty tricks and evil deeds. ..and can not feed on the truth any more nor do good.. it would be fatal to them.

[G_j]

10. Rep. Paul offers language to require parental consent

Lawmaker tries to block mental-health screening
Rep. Paul offers language to require parental consent for evaluating kids

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41511

Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, is making a final attempt this week to lessen the impact of a new program that calls for all the nation's children to be screened for mental-health problems, offering language to the federal omnibus spending bill that would require parental consent before such testing could be done.
..more..

[no_hypocrisy]

11. Talk about "Drink the Kool-aid or go to detention".

Scary "brave, new world".

[KayLaw]

12. Republicans control Washington now

No matter what they claim, judging by their actions, Republicans want a big bloated government that spies on and controls its citizens in most every way. This is only Phase I as they eventually hope to force all Americans - or all American consumers, as they put it - to submit to their testing.

What about people who can't pay for the medications they'll make us give our kids? Will Bush raise taxes to drug us, or just add it to his big credit card?

Why Freepers enjoy a big jack boot on their throats, I'll never know.

[Cobalt Violet]

13. The bigger the better .

That seems to be the government they like as long as they control everything.

[doni_georgia]

23. Yeah, ironic they claim the terrorists hate us for our freedom

if these people have their way we won't HAVE any freedom. No one is going to test my kids without my consent - period. And I can tell you right now that they would recommend drugging my two kids on the autism spectrum - it ain't gonna happen. There are no conclusive studies showing the long-term effects of psychotropic drugs on kids. I will not allow my kids to be guinea pigs. Look at what we are learning about the possible side effects of anti-depressants on kids. No way - no how.

[Nordic]

14. this isn't about children, it's about "future voters"

They can't do this to adults, it would be considered unconstitutional and nobody would go for it.

So they're doing it to our children, so that down the road, when these kids are adults, they can easily recruit them for various tasks, knowing their personality/temperment types, and knowing which ones can be recruited for other unsavory duties, and which ones can be made scapegoats of.

It's very frightening, and nobody should put up with this shit.

I'm not gonna let them test my kid. No fucking way. They can fine me or whatever, it just ain't gonna happen.

[walldude]

22. I'm with you, they can test my kid over my dead body,

this is totally insane. They want to do a test on my kids, to see if they need to be doped up? What happened to all those repukes screaming that ADD isn't a disease and the parents of ADD kids are just lazy and don't want to deal with their kids problems. I wonder if the freepers are going to line up for this one. "Oh please King George, please tell me if my child needs to be on drugs, I am certainly too FUCKING STUPID to figure it out on my own..."
I swear I hear a Revolution calling me....

[depakid]

15. I ask again- how are they going to pay for this?

I keep hearing all of rhetoric- and while it's not a bad idea per se to screen kids for potential mental illness- it would be very costly and any proposed pharmceutical intervention on the scale I hear thrown around would be exorbitant.

So who's going to pony up the money?

[Mandate My Ass]

21. The parents of the "sick" kids will pay

Probably they will have to prove they are on the prescribed medication before they can return to school.

Pukes don't fund their mandates, they pass the cost along to us and this is obviously pork for big Pharma.

[ComerPerro]

16. That is how Republicans have been doing things for years

[FlaGranny]

24. What is the purpose?

What will happen to kids that are deemed mentally ill, I wonder. What will the criteria be for mental illness? Is it all for the purpose of drugging them or something more? Hmmmm.