Zogby articles says issues were peace, poverty and greed, not gays.

[madfloridian]

http://www.zogby.com/soundbites/ReadClips.dbm?ID=10389
SNIP..."A new poll released today by Zogby International on the results of last Tuesday’s election shows that American voters think the urgent moral issues facing our country are peace, poverty and greed – and that Catholic voters overwhelmingly think that issues of economic justice are the greatest moral crisis in the United States today.

Dave Robinson, executive director of Pax Christi USA, a national Catholic human rights organization, said that these numbers show that voters, particularly Catholic voters, choose their candidates on a wide range of values, and resist attempts to characterize their political identity in one or two issues.

“Though it’s clear that a portion of the electorate voted solely on issues like abortion and gay marriage, this poll shows that the vast majority of voters, especially Catholic voters, are influenced by a wide range of issues,” said Robinson. “Despite attempts to characterize Catholic political identity in one or two issues, Catholics recognized that there are a broad range of issues that their faith calls them to vote on; issues like economic justice, the war in Iraq, health care and more.”

The Zogby poll shows that when voters were asked to list the moral issue that most affected their vote, the Iraq war topped the list (42%) – more than tripling the number that chose abortion (13%) or gay marriage (9%). Also, when asked to choose the most urgent moral crisis facing the U.S., voters chose ‘greed and materialism’ (33%) and ‘poverty and economic justice’ (31%) twice as often as abortion (16%) and gay marriage (12%). END SNIP

I am not the only one who considered the Iraq War a moral issue, thank goodness.

[LostInAnomie]

1. The abortion, and gay marriage vote is what put them over the top.

He needed to get those rabid fundies in a lather over morals to push him up to 51%. The others are just Repukes.

[madfloridian]

3. I don't think the article even implies that.

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[intheozone]

5. I don't think so, I think

what put them over the top was FRAUDULENT VOTE COUNTING!

[proudbluestater]

2. Whew! There's hope for us yet!

Glad Zogby did the necessary follow up. I am sick to death of hearing the phony "moral issue" mantra from the mainstream media.

Funny how they could quickly discount the exit poll data which showed Kerry far ahead, and they promote the exit poll data which states "moral values" were the # 1 issue. The media cabal likes to pick and choose what it likes and disregard what it doesn't.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

4. Well, then...

How does this explain that asshole winning?

James, get your head out yer' ass and clarify. All this does is buttress the fraud claims!

Oh...wait...

[mmonk]

6. If it was peace poverty, and greed, why did bush win?

[madfloridian]

8. The media.

I believe that fully. They center on murder trials, missing white girls, they beat the drums for the GOP....the people just are not that aware.

[rman]

19. the media

One has got to wonder why the media are doing this.
Are they doing this on their own behalf?
Is it coincidence that the big corporate powers who benefit from this also own the media?

[Nordic]

10. He didn't win.

He stole it.

Hit the presidential returns forum if you haven't yet.

Bush winning is another media lie.

[regnaD kciN]

14. Precisely...and, even if Bush didn't win...

...how is it that, with these "moral values" concerns, voters ranking "moral values" first broke 80%-18% for the Midland Mussolini?

Something doesn't compute, here...

[DeepModem Mom]

7. Zogby is having some very interesting things to say, post-election --

thanks, madfloridian.

[Nordic]

9. okay, how many DUers took the media bait? A show of hands?

Everybody, once again, fell for the media's lies.

Including almost everybody here. Myself included at least the first couple of days, until I started to think "wait a minute ....."

WE CAN BELIEVE NOTHING THE MEDIA TELLS US EVER AGAIN.

[Lorien]

15. Those of us without cable

were wondering why DUers drank the Kool Aid in those days following the election. The media is lockstep in it's propaganda; the repetition makes it gospel for many people who leave the glass teat on for much of the day.

[babylonsister]

11. Hey, I've been doing the Zogby polls for awhile

pre- and post-election. Issues of economic justice? I don't get that; there is surely no economic justice happening now or in the near future. And their gripe is...?

[Conmander in Cheat]

12. What the fuck?

If those were the kinds of issues voters brought up, the lack of a Kerry landslide indicates obvious vote fraud.

The fact that Bush won among Catholics given the issues they cared most about this election is too inexplicable without considering FRAUD.

[Nordic]

16. exactly. "Bush won" is a meme just like the "moral values" meme

shoved down our throats by the RW and their propaganda machine.

Bush didn't win. All evidence, and I mean all of it, points to a major Kerry landslide.

So let's fund those recounts, shall we?

[democratreformed]

13. I agree with everyone else here. Those issues coupled with a *Bush

win make no sense at all. There is no way that the idiot was connected to hope on these issues in voters' minds. I refuse to believe that.

[NuttyFluffers]

17. but, but, but the media told me!!!

aren't they the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?!?!? oh god! i'm adrift in a dark cruel world where i can't have mindless faith in something!

:cry:

[American Tragedy]

18. Well they sure as hell don't seem to vote accordingly

[Killarney]

20. If that was the case, we would have won hands down.