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LiberalEconomist Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:13 PM
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Democracy for America is the real Democratic Party
The DLC and the DNC are composed of a pile of wine sipping (not that I am opposed to a good glass of Merlot), plutrocratic elites. We the People are represented by Dr. Dean's DFA. The DFA should run its primaries, and the winners should be considered the legitimate Democratic candidates. We, who are inclined, ought to overrun our local Democratic parites and compel them to accept the DFA as the legitimate national Democratic Party platform. It's called a populist revolution folks. Dean started it, and was bamboozeled out of the primaries. Now, we finish it. Dean is our William Wallace.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:14 PM
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1. I strongly support your proposal. What's next?
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:16 PM
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5. I support Democracy for America!
And I was a part of this populist movement!
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:21 PM
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9. We need a populist leader with the political skills of Huey
P. Long of Louisiana but maybe a less crooked. That might be Gov. Dean. I think he has the right values. He is less than topflight
in the charisma department. I still think we would have been better off with him in 2004. We allowed the media and the DNC to derail him
in Iowa, a state that turned out to be red anyway.
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LiberalEconomist Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:18 PM
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7. Well, I got ahead of myself
This may not be necessary if Dean becomes chairman of the DNC. In the event that he does not either by his choice or otherwise, he must agree to allow DFA to become the true center of the Democratic Party.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:15 PM
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2. here is the next step to DFA, take iover local democratic partries
how do yuio think the right did it?

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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:19 PM
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8. Yup, and election commissions, and school board offices, and...
...common councils, etc.

NGU.


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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:15 PM
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3. Im in.
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:16 PM
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4. Let's hope he's more Robert Bruce than William Wallace, eh?
I don't want to see the good Dr. hung, drawn and quartered at Smithfield Market.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:22 PM
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10. lol... I would be happy if Howard Dean be Howard Dean
He is himself.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:18 PM
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6. Ok I want details. How do we take over say TEXAS Democratic party?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:26 PM
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11. I think Democracy for Texas is well on its way.
They are building a strong group there.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:26 PM
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12. Mission Democracy
Some of us Northerners work with DFA to go down to Texas and start helping Democrats get elected to local offices. This means getting out on the streets, helping reframe the issues (Do you want the government dictating what you can and can't do in your life? Do you think there should be more government regulation on things like marriage? Should children suffer from hunger if we have the ability to feed them? If a woman's life could be saved by a medical procedure, would it be wrong to deny her that procedure?)

We work from the ground up. In fact, I bet the Texas Democratic Party longs for the day the national party gives them some support. Instead they have to struggle against the organized GOP machine in Texas alone because Texas has been written off.
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LiberalEconomist Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:28 PM
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14. This is an under-underground operation
We have to find people in our local areas who agree with our position, who are willing to become politically active. We join our local Democratic party and attend all of their meetings. We find who, there is sympathetic to our cause and recruit them. We must also, take over key positions in the local party: treasurer, secretary, chief-cook-and-bottle washer, and eventually the chair. In so doing we set and shape the agenda. After this we do what we can to have OUR candidates win the primaries. Destroy them from within. This is where the Greens failed. They would have been more powerful had they worked from within the party structure.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:28 PM
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13. We are already part of it and will remain so.
Whether the DNC is relevant to us depends on who it leaves behind as it tries to run right again.

DFA and groups that join with it may be future of the party.
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LiberalEconomist Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:32 PM
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17. I hope it is more than "may" be the future of the party.
From my little corner of reality, DFA HAS to be the party. Our survival depends on it. Right now the DNC control Democratic Party is only fulfilling its role in a political "Cats Cradle."
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Tweed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:29 PM
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15. Yeah, Howard Dean is the ONLY true Democrat left in America
:eyes:
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LiberalEconomist Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:34 PM
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18. This is more than Howard Dean
this is about the movement.
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:29 PM
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16. This is why Dean's candidacy failed. Too many supporters
alienated people who could have been supporters. If this is the way Dean supporters attempt to woo new supporters into the ranks, Dean's going to end up right where he did the last time.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:54 PM
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19. We won't need to "woo" anyone.
There won't be a party left to go to if they keep being more Republican.
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