We cannot even buy them healthcare!

[ProfessorPlum]

I'm trying not to get too sucked into the red state/blue state false dichotomy (that plays into the right-wing politics of division), but there are certainly some truths to the stereotypes. People in "red states" do want to control the culture, or they are angry, or something, and the red states themselves also tend to be poorer.

Think about how stupid the position of a state like Alabama really is . . . they are massively subsidized by people in big cities on the coasts, and many of those people would like to provide universal health care. Since red staters are also less healthy than people in blue states, this would represent a massive outpouring of money from the cities to the rural poor.

And those rural poor refuse to accept this. They think it violates their principles to have health care untied from employment.

Think about the irony of that.

My apologies to DUers trapped in red states. But it just boggles the mind.

[Cobalt Violet]

1. They don't want the government to pay for abortions as if they pay...

for the government.:shrug:

[Unstuck In Time]

2. Red states = welfare states

That's one talking point I plan to repeat endlessly from here on out. They know best how to spend OUR money.

[denverbill]

3. A lot of the excess aid to the Reds is farm subsidies.

Let's end those and see how North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Iowa, and Missouri feel about govt spending on 'wealth transfer' programs.