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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:04 PM
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ABC News: Conspiracy Theories Abound After Bush Victory
WASHINGTON, Nov. 9, 2004 -- There were minor voting irregularities on Election Day — long lines, voting machine breakdowns, shortages of provisional ballots — but some people are now leveling charges of voter fraud.


Doug Chapin, a nonpartisan election analyst, finds the claims to be baseless. "There were no problems that would lead me to believe that there were stolen elections or widespread fraud," he said.

"There was no overwhelming reason to cast doubt on the outcome of this election," seconded Democratic strategist Donna Brazile, the campaign manager for Al Gore's 2000 campaign. "George Bush got more votes this time."

Nevertheless, many people have devised various theories, including stories of voters in largely Democratic counties in Florida whose votes were changed for Bush, phantom voters in Ohio, and exit polls showing John Kerry in the lead that were truer than the final tally. Off the record, many Democratic strategists dismiss such allegations, but they also know such resentment can be channeled for political use in the future.


Those Florida Democrats Who Mysteriously Voted for Bush
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http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=239735&page=1
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:06 PM
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1. Trying to beat it down.
Interesting. Funny how I hear different things from different people.

Ms. Brazile has had too many lunches with Rove.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:06 PM
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2. gee Peter we are doing yuor damn job peter
what about you get your head out of your pompous ass and realize... this is not a conspircacy theory, though it tells me, wa are makign waves now

Hence the inucoulation...
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:06 PM
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3. It's just a minor irregularity when the GOP steals an election for God.
What do they know. They missed the boat on WMD, and they are hell bent to miss this boat too. Good, then drown!
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:07 PM
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4. I see the media is supporting voter supression.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:08 PM
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5. Aww, we're just fools awaiting future manipulation.
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:08 PM
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6. Yeah. And it gets wearisome at best to hear/read these
conspiracy theorists too.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:08 PM
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7. So will the DNC just BEG Donna Brazile to be its chairperson
after that BS remark? Will they keep being a bunch of craven wussies happy to bend over for the Bush Regime?

Probably.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:09 PM
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8. Yes, our lib'rul media.
Lovely, isn't it?

We need a 2004 Woodward and Bernstein Redux.
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dave502d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:10 PM
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9. I want to be like Faux . n/t
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RebelYell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:11 PM
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10. Forget DC
We need to march on the MEDIA.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:12 PM
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11. Yay! Waiting in line for 10 hours to vote is a good thing!!
Yay Democracy! Yay! Yay, let's bring this to Iraq! Yay!
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:06 AM
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20. minor irregularity
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seraph Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:13 PM
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12. Oh yeah? Screw ABC. (nt)





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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:25 PM
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16. That's great. Did you send this to Keith?
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seraph Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:26 PM
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17. Yeah.


It's a dangerous time for an honest journalist.

He needs to know who his friends are because he's making lots of enemies.

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SnowGoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:14 PM
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13. This is a good sign...
The fact that they're up there denying it is the first sign that the story is seeping into the larger conversation. How often to they deny that Bush got his lady friend an illegal abortion back in the day? Never, because that story doesn't exist in the broader awareness.
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:18 PM
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14. C'mon, now- I admit I'm biased, but these irregularities certainly
warrant investigation. Also, it's interesting that they lead with the most flawed claim. That Florida claim is easily knocked down. I wouldn't even include it in the argument because it's so weak, but they lead with it.
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Lostnote03 Donating Member (850 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:22 PM
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15. ABC doesn't know what to do with us ........
.....But those democratic strategists sure know how to use us!!!!LMAO!!!
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:29 PM
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18. With someone like Donna Brazile
around we may as well kiss off '06 and maybe '08. Anything less than Howard Dean as DNC head tells me that the milquetoasts are still in charge, waiting to roll over when the gop tells them to.
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AgadorSparticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:32 PM
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19. so that is the angle? discredit the blinding voting irregularities with
labels such as conspiracy theories? they can take that rhetoric and shove it up their ass. numbers are not adding up. and that is reality. but the fact that jennings came out and did their bidding to spin this tells me they must be a little nervous of our diligence. one thing is clear: we must be making some headway. :)
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uhhuh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:30 AM
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21. UHHUH FROM DU: Relentless Spin Abounds After Sham Election
See ABC, I can do it too!
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