Our Realtor is the first casualty of the new culture war

[DancingBear]

Earler today, Mrs. DB spoke with the realtor trying to sell our house. The listing had recently expired, and she chatted him up a bit on the election, etc. She then told him it was important that we re-list the home with someone who shares our political beliefs.

At first, he said he really didn't follow politics. When pressed however, he did mention that he knew we were Kerry supporters. When Mrs. DB said it was important that those we do business with feel the same, he replied, "Well, I guess that lets me out."

We told him we would be re-listing with another agent, and he said "so you're mixing business with politics, then."

We answered "yes."

I'm saddened by this. He was a likable man, but I know we had to take a stand, for he played a part in this descent into fascism when he pulled that lever.

I dread these next four years, not only for what it will do to this country but for what it will do to her people.

[TrueAmerican]

1. So, are you going to sell your house to only

Democrats/liberals?

[Ducks In A Row]

11. I would. I like my area and wouldn't want to have bush fuckers here

actually where I live it's almost all kerry supporters, and we are rural. I couldn't be that mean to my neighbors and have a bush thug here.

so that puts a lie to the myth that all country folk are rethugs.

[otohara]

2. I'd Do The Same Thing

I was pricing swamp coolers, guy said he loved Bush, I said buh bye.

[RoeBear]

3. That is disgusting...

...you admit he was a 'likable man' but the fact that he didn't vote the way you wanted him to makes him unworthy of your business. Disgusting.

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. Only took we all now have IS ECONOMIC

We will use it, thank you.

[okieinpain]

144. sad thing is the repugs have already beat us to doing this.

[devilgrrl]

9. In fairness to DB, you weren't there and don't know the circumstances.

Perhaps the realtor said something that prompted him to make the decision?

I'm not flaming or anything but there's missing details here. :shrug:

[RoeBear]

18. I suspect that if Kerry had won the election...

..that the poster wouldn't have even asked the realtor the question.
Why because his candidate won, is he an unworthy person now?

[Mr_Spock]

56. 'Cause Dumbya is a lying mass-murdering WAR CRIMINAL

AND WE MUST STAND ON PRINCIPAL!

http://www.disenfranchisedmusic.com/mp3/noa.mp3

[jdj]

113. and because the election was stolen, and these high-flying xtians

don't care about honesty and truth in this case.

[robbedvoter]

130. Kerry won the election. And this is NOT some sports event.

Supporting fascism is enough to make me not want to deal with someoneone.

[DancingBear]

33. devilgrrl, I made the decision on my own

The realtor did nothing to prompt me to do what I did, although I could tell where his politcal allegiance lay. I am sure he was able to discern mine just as easily.

After the election, we both decided to take whatever economic steps we could to stand up and say "enough."

Every vote for Bush was a vote to destroy those things I and millions of others hold dear. We have been villified, lied about, and demonized long enough.

I will not stand for it anymore.

[devilgrrl]

53. Va Bene.

I respect your decision.

[Robeson]

And I applaud you...

...those who think this is just business as usual when dealing with these fundi/neocons, are naive, to say the least.

We did not start the culture war on fellow Americans. They did.

We did not hold funding back from No Child Left behind, that in fact, leaves millions behind and further exacerbates the culture of poverty in this country. They did.

We did not declare war on the Civil Rights of Americans. They did.

We did not illegally invade another country, resulting in the deaths of 100,000+. They did.

We did not attempt to deny elderly and others access to cheaper drugs. They did.

We did not attempt to stem science with respect to helping the health of all. They did.

And we were not the ones to initiate wedge issues as a tactic for dividing the American people. They did.

Its time people in our party wake up. We are in a war. A war to maintain OUR beliefs, and OUR values, and frankly, our very standards of living. Republicans have an economic stranglehold on this country and never hesitate to use it on us. Our wallets are all we have left. Lets use it. You did good.

[SW FL Dem]

86. Amen! I won't stand for it anymore either.

My landscaper is a big Repug supporter. I just got a competing bid from a Dem supporter. The Dem is cheaper so it made the decision easier.

[DuaneBidoux]

137. I agree with you completely

Although I would say the economic war will probably hurt us all I hope it is one that Dems are ready to fight. If the Chimp for some unlikely reason has 4 good economic years (hey, Hitler turned the German economy around) then we would likely have another 4 years of some Rethuglican.

Then the courts will be stacked, and all the elected liberals and progressives in the world won't be able to stop the rollback of the last 70 years of progress.

If you study the way FDR stacked the courts during his 15(16?) years in power it is why we have what we have now. Even after the Corporate Republicans gained power and started trying to roll back the progress the courts overruled them.

So, unless we turn it around this time....think 70 years of FDR, in reverse.

[Ducks In A Row]

16. why not? they find all sorts of people unworthy of simple living ...

like human beings. Gays aren't worthy of marriage or jobs

[ComerPerro]

126. no shit

Good point.

They think homosexuality is an immoral choice made by people who are only thinking about themselves?

Well, guess what! I feel the same way about Conservatism!

[DancingBear]

19. Gee, maybe when

some young girl dies from a back alley abortion due to abortion being illegal I'll be sad. Will the nice man care?

Maybe when some kid comes home in a body bag from an illegal war I'll be sad. Will the nice man care?

Maybe when a family member, yours or mine, gets cancer from the relaxed air pollution regulations I'll be sad. Will the nice man care?

Oh, BTW, many people find George W. Bush a VERY likeable man.

Sorry, RoeBear, this is no ordinary election. This is a crazed bastard taking us straight to Armageddon on the fast track, and anybody who bought a ticket is not going to get a slap on the back and a well-done from me.

[Ducks In A Row]

30. right on!

screw the fuckers, they will fuck us over royally for the next 2 years.

[VOX]

44. Tell it, DancingBear!

Right on the money!!! :thumbsup:

[Kimber Scott]

23. I agree. It's that kind of thinking that divides a country. Ask Bush, he

is really good at it. "Yer either with me, or yer against me! Yee hah!" Bet that guys going to warm up to liberal ideas now.

[Mr_Spock]

55. Fine, let them intimidate you and push you around with their thug ideas

They've been pulling this crap for 30 years+. I'm not playing any more. I'm boycotting ALL Repuke dominated companies (like WalMart) and I WILL NOT do business with known Bush pushers. I don't do that drug!

http://www.disenfranchisedmusic.com/mp3/noa.mp3

[tsuki]

114. That has been a Republican thread since Nixon. And Bush has

expanded his hate list to leaders of other countries. He can't work with anyone that he finds is "agin him." Why should anyone? After all, from the MORAL Prez...it is the MORAL thing to do.

[July]

119. Good point. I'm going to use that.

Throw Bush's words back at them.

[saracat]

26. People who supported Bush are traitors to democracy and

deserve to be treated as such. Bravo to her for not feeding the beast. Let them do without as they have condemned all the rest of us to. Obviously you think this was an ordinary election or you couldn't post what you did. Well it wasn't and there is no valid reason for anyone no matter how "likable" to vote for Bush. They would have to be evil or stupid , neither of which indicate a good Realtor!

[Mr_Spock]

58. Here Here!!

I agree whole heartedly!

No more free pass for these Bush-pushers - not my drug of choice!!

http://www.disenfranchisedmusic.com/mp3/noa.mp3

[girl gone mad]

27. I don't see why.

Remember the busing boycott? I'm sure a lot of the bus drivers were just good men trying to earn a decent living.

I'll be looking for a landscaper this week, and I'm going out of my way to find one that is liberal. I can't give my money to people that support a corrupt government.

[WolverineDG]

37. they ran the buses anyway

they just ran empty.

dg

[in_cog_ni_to]

35. That Realtor would have made a bunch of money off the sale of DB's house.

They were RIGHT to do what they did. This is the only way these people will learn. When it hurts THEM, they will think twice about their vote.

[formernaderite]

39. I'm a small time contractor...and very lucky that my clients...

...are fair. About half tend to be republicans and by the stickers on my truck they know where I stand. I never use any rude or disrespectful stickers. I would not be able to help my wife in co-supporting our family if my republican clients behaved the way this original poster did. I'm starting to feel very uncomfortable with some of the antics I'm seeing.

[SoCalDem]

105. I choose to spend my money with kindred spirits too

I buy at local businesses. We have sworn off the big-box stores as well..

I am VERY uncomfortable with the "antics" of the repube party's rigging of elections and a TON of other positioons they take..

The only time I was ever ripped of by a contractor was one of those "fish" guys..

We all must do what we think works for us. I buy little these days, but when I do I would prefer to support people who cast a kind eye toward the future, instead of saving their money to donate to people who want us to go backwards..

Maybe if we do indeed, Starve the beast...even a little.. it might be helpful to OUR futures..

[Beausoleil]

41. That's how lobbyists work, and boycotts

In this country business is politics and politics is business. Two sides of the same coin. Nothing disgusting about it.

[Carni]

45. What's disgusting about it?

I would have a great deal of trust issues with a bush backer...when I sell my house I want to be able to trust my real estate agent.

I would not trust the business savvy or the ethics of a bush supporter PERIOD in a transaction of that magnitude...I see nothing disgusting or unethical about this choice on the part of the poster.

They have every right to put their trust in people of like minded caliber IMO (meaning ETHICAL caliber)

[sandnsea]

48. Not THIS time

I'm sorry, Bush is pure evil. Voting for Bush tells me alot about someone's character and it's the kind of character I would be very wary of doing business with. It's perfectly reasonable. What would you do in Nazi Germany? That's the question to answer.

[liberalhistorian]

49. I have to agree here.

We are never going to be able to reach people and change things if we act just as hatefully and one-sided as we say the other side does. I certainly understand how you feel, but this is not the way to do it. You're only making them dig in even more in their feelings against us, and it doesn't change anything.

[sandnsea]

59. Guess what

They've been doing it to liberals for a very long time now. I've seen them run more than one business person out of my own town because they want to keep the good old boy network in place. We do okay because we compete in a quiet, under the radar, sort of way. I don't think some people really understand what's at stake here. This is NOT two different but feasible political agendas. This is fasicst-theocracy vs democracy. I'm not going to support people who support the destruction of true values, even if they're too stupid to know what they're doing. Why would you want to trust somebody like that with your business anyway?

[Goathead]

69. What is hateful about it?

Business is business, people make the decision to do business with other people for far more trivial matters than who they voted for. If you don't agree with a persons politics and chose not to do business with them then that is YOUR business, no one else's'.

[Mr_Spock]

50. He's a hero. He's not going to be intimidated or pushed around by

these ass holes any more. They always feel so free to share their political beliefs with people they meet - as if theirs is the only right position.

NOT!

I am doing the same thing and you can't stop me.

http://www.disenfranchisedmusic.com/mp3/noa.mp3

[brook]

How would you suggest...

we reach parity? Go down to the river and have a gigantic baptism and fry fish while we wait for the rapture?

Maybe losing a potential commission will encourage the unenlightened agent to engage his mind before he pulls a lever next time.

[RoeBear]

75. If this goes tit for tat

we lose, they outnumber us and have more money.

[brook]

78. You may bow before the gelt.

Just don't ask me to help you up again.

There are NOT more of them than there are of us.

Money is not required to buy one necessity of the soul. Thoreau

[ruggerson]

91. They have more money????

We have NYC, Los Angeles, DC, Chicago and every other Northern hub. They have a shitload of farmland and Atlanta.

I'll take our odds.

[RoeBear]

120. So the rich people

in those areas are all voting Democratic?

Somehow I doubt it.

[tsuki]

115. But do they spend it.

I stopped trading with big Republicans in my area years ago, because they've always got to cheat just a little. Usually hold back or return stuff that has been used. "Is that the best you can do????" I tell them no, take them out on the porch, and give them directions to Home Depot.

[ReadTomPaine]

117. Wrong on both counts.

You are buying into the spin. Liberals have always outnumbered conservatives and we can raise more money than they can when motivated to to do.

RTP

[RoeBear]

121. Did we out raise them this year?

I don't know the answer myself, but what more than the things that were going on this year would we need to get motivated?

[ReadTomPaine]

125. Yes we outraised them.

Regarding what can be done to motivate the base further; we need to appeal to them with a platform that isn't 'Republican-lite' as is often outlined here.

Strength, passion for progressive values and elimination of the 5-10 point fraud bounce that the GOP has engineered into many aspects of the voting process would produce landslide after landslide for the Democratic party.

The DLC has failed us again and again. How many more times are they going to pursue this strategy? As many times as they get keep getting paid to do so.

RTP

[Walt Starr]

79. I'm sorry, I agree with DB

The only thing they understand is their pocketbook.

Fine, I will not line their pockets.

[OneMoreDemocrat]

90. A lot of people think Bush is a 'likable man'...........

but that doesn't make him worthy of my vote.

As of Nov. 2nd. a line in the sand has been drawn as far as I'm concerned and 'likable' or not, Bush voters (all of them) are disgusting and if I can cause them hardship without going out of my way to do so, I will not hesitate.

[ReadTomPaine]

118. Yup, no one is more friendly than a sociopathic, domineering drunk.

One day people are going to be scraping Bush/Cheney bumperstickers off their cars when no one is looking, just like Nixon's supporters did.

RTP

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[jdj]

112. they are supporting the death of American Democracy by

not standing with us for free and fair elections.

I am an American, not and Evangelican.

I will not support the murder of my country for a supposedly "higher calling".

I can see this.

We need to stop drinking their kool-aid in every way.

[gcomeau]

139. Get over it.

There are far too many Bush voters in this country who don't have a fucking CLUE what a horrible thing they did voting for this administration and if it takes extreme measures to wake their zombie asses up to the seriousness of it all then so be it.

-Grant

[PhuLoi]

143. Anyone who knowingly supports someone who supports bush

is disgusting. Do not allow them to profit from us in any way. We are after all immoral, therefore our money must have been acquired immorally. We're really saving them from being soiled by our tainted money.

[donkeyotay]

148. "We're really saving them from being soiled by our tainted money."

That is so true. Around here people do business out of their churches. They put the fish on the car so they can join their own trading club. That support for each other and boycotting of liberals has gone on, unspoken of, for years.

[Goathead]

4. Bold move

I applaud you!

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. no an artist freind of mine

I blasted him after he sent me a joke, three days ago

He is so cionfused, he voted for bush, he is in NC and he has already lost three gigs because of this.

Blue staters are basically telling him where to shove it, and it ain't where the sun shines.

What I fear ia a descent to soemthing else

Oh and he was confused about it, very confused, as if politics had nothing to do with business, well it does bubba and we don't want to hear it when he has no job, or goes hungry, we truly do not... he is still absorbing this

[Ducks In A Row]

25. People like that won't listen to anything else but their money

the troops being killed, the treasury being gutted, all that other stuff was meaningless for them.

this will get their attention


anyways, we won't have a lot of money ro throw around. I'm happy to focus it to people who aren't supporters of a criminal

[nadinbrzezinski]

28. he came this close to voting for the light

now that he voted for bush he is amaized at the reaction he is getting from the amoral crowd, we ain't puttng money ahead of morals

He is truly a victim of the "lib'ral media" so be it... he has been propagandized, so be it.

[JNelson6563]

6. Don't support fascist enablers!

Good for you!

Julie

[RoeBear]

8. Better yet...

...snub them in public, don't even talk to them.
Make them wear their 'W' buttons at all times so we will know they are people we don't like.

[Jade Fox]

21. What does that have to do with not giving Bush supporters your business?

[T Town Jake]

109. He's making a subtle point that, admittedly, probably eludes you...

...about historical things you've likely never heard about.
We're truly, in the wake of this election disaster, becoming what we claim to despise the most. And it saddens me worse than what happened on Nov. 2nd.

[Jade Fox]

134. So, is your insulting me an example of behavior we should aspire to?

The Left has lost for decades in this country because it cares more about
feeling morally superior to the Right than it does about winning. Winning
involves power, and that is just too scary for those delicate souls who
measure their niceness by how screwed over they are.

[Ducks In A Row]

38. Wish they would, so I'd know who to give the enlistment forms to.

[cybildisobedience]

10. quick story

I know my experience isn't as dramatic as a house listing, but still:

Was in a cutesy country store the day after the election, sick to my stomach over the whole thing, and went to pay for a candle. Then I spotted a sign that read "Christians for Bush."
I asked the owner if he was concerned that promoting his political beliefs in his store would alienate a good chunk of customers. He looked at the sign and said, no. So I said, I think I have to put this back.
He said, bless you.
I said, you're supporting a monster.

End of story -- but hey, I'm sick of getting terrorized by Bush supporters who demand loyalty to their king. And I plan on letting every vendor who posts a pro-Bush sign that I won't patronize him for that very reason.

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. ::APPLAUSE::

By the way, kindly join the rest of us in a XMAS general boycott

DO NOT boy or comsume beyond what yuo need to

If you ahve to boy gifrs do such from LOCAL vendors preferally hand made goods.

[tsuki]

116. Second hand or consignment stores are

also great.

[Beaverhausen]

146. Just exactly what do you expect to achieve by boycotting christmas?

I'm just curious. The reason I ask is I know many stores depend on their christmas sales for up to 1/3 of their total years sales. '

I agree Christmas is too commercial and I also try to shop local mom and pop stores.

[Mr_Spock]

40. Beautiful - you guys are all my heros!

This is how we let people know we are sick of THEIR intimidation. How many times have these jerks tried to intimidate US over the past 30 years. I have zero sympathy for a * voter.

Bless you!!! (jk)

[Jade Fox]

12. They count on us to be "nice" and not mind....

how their voting affects us (and them!)

We have got to start standing up for ourselves, and standing up TO those
who want to turn this country into Bushworld. I support what you did
completely.

[Mr_Spock]

43. YES!

No more intimidation by these ass holes.

[idiosyncratic]

14. I support your decision.

Maybe these people will look past the Repub talking points on the Fox News they watch and learn what our side really believes in.

Where else will they get the motivation to do that. Hitting their wallet will do it.

[Mr_Spock]

15. Good for you. Anybody who voted for that idiot is NOT a person I will

be doing business with. I actually have already stopped going to a particular hang-out that was almost entirely extremely bigoted Republicans. I was already sick of their bigotry and hatred of Democrats and their feeling like they had a special obligation to slam Dems at will and that everyone should agree with them. I don't. I'm never going to that place ever again as inconvienient as that may be. Fuck them right-wing bigoted ass holes. It's kinda crude, but it gets the message across loud and clear.

This is very funny BTW: http://www.disenfranchisedmusic.com/mp3/noa.mp3

[HuskerDem]

17. Good for you. It's about time they realized WE HAVE MONEY TOO

We do business too. Screw 'em. I'm sure your good neighbors will be grateful.

[democrank]

20. Good for you.

I for one am not going to pretend that it doesn`t matter who I do business with. It does. Let the neo-fascists support one another. I don`t want any part of it.

[ibegurpard]

22. Not sure that I would ACTIVELY seek out someone's political affilitation

But if it was obvious to me, I would have no qualms about taking my business elsewhere. None at all.

[serryjw]

24. Please congratulate Mrs DB.........

To quote the guy in the White House..... You either for us, or against us This is war......and sides are chosen in War.

[ShaneGR]

29. I'm sorry, I really don't support this...

I mean, it sounds like your wife sought out his political beliefs rather than the other way around. I could understand if the guy was talking about Bush/Cheney but from your post I see that he didn't.

So, I don't really like it.

[DancingBear]

52. I can understand that

You are correct - she did.

I will only argue this one point - if, by accident, I were to find out that, oh, my dentist for example, spends his weekends working against gays being able to adopt children, but he NEVER mentions it during my visits to him, and he is a good dentist, should I stay with him?

I don't think I would be able to, for even though he is not affecting me he is working against what I would consider the greater good.

Sometimes the quiet ones do the most damage.

[ShaneGR]

77. Look, it's your choice, but I think you're taking it over the line

Just because nsomeone disagrees with you politically, especially when they're not in your face about it, doesn't mean they're any less of a good person than you.

[Walt Starr]

84. I disagree

We must draw the line. War has been declared on me. I will only benefit my allies in this war.

[murielm99]

106. Now this post just hit me over the head, DB.

I live in true blue Illinois, but I am in a rural county with a lot of repukes. I do try to to business with people I know are Democrats.

My dentist is a nice person and a good dentist. He is also a repuke.

I am torn. I want to find another dentist, and I want to tell him why I am doing this.

I still have to live in this small town, though. And am I going to go through the phone book in the area, and ask all the dentists if they are Democrats?

I am not sure about what to do. I see some of my fellow Democrats with leadership positions here being very accommodating toward their repuke counterparts. Should I do that? Or, should I declare all out economic war on my neighbors? I don't know yet.

[Walt Starr]

82. I'm sorry, but for contractor and the like, I will be asking the question

I will not do business with anybody except those people who answer straight up, "I voted For John Kerry."

If they won't reveal how they voted or they reveal that they voted for Bush, they get the door.

I've got lots of work planned for my house over the next twelve months, and my money will only go to Kerry supporters.

[donheld]

31. DB i support your decision

Why let some right winger profit from the sale of your house. Let the money go to someone who will not use any part of it for W

[vanboggie]

32. Bravo to Mrs. Bear

Greed and some convoluted version of God is all these people
understand. Get 'em where it hurts!

[AmerDem]

34. congrats

:toast:



Everyone with real conviction should follow your lead.

[seabeyond]

36. i am thinking it is about time people say they would rather not share

who they voted for, that they would like to keep it their business.

i am not fond of all this. i understand why we are doing this, but i think it is more the sinclairs and the diebolds ect........that have direct link in manipulating and controlling our government as opposed to a realestate agent that is putting food on his table for his children

i have issue with my father and brothr who voted bush, and my inlaws that have two gays sons that voted for bush,...........but this doesnt feel right to me

a mere opinion in the whole

[DancingBear]

66. I can understand

However, let me put your mind at ease by saying that this man has NO worries financially - noVA is very wealthy, and this man is a top producer here. Also has substantial commercial interests.

If this were an average election, no one would would care. Anyone get upset with folks who voted for Dole? Bush Sr? I don't think so - I know I didn't. But this one is different. Literally, the world is at stake.

I really wish I could give them a pass. I really do. It is not my nature to behave in this fashion, but I have been pushed. Too hard, and for too long.

Someone has to answer for it.

If not this way, how? The elections are rigged, the television muzzled, the print media MIA.

We have to stop them. We have to.

[Must_B_Free]

42. You justified the GOP's treatment of us

you practiced intolerance - the very thing we complain about.

Jesus said - do unto others as you would have others do unto you.

So in other words, you just added more negativity to the universe.

Most people are not as partisan as us. I can't blame others for being duped. I am disap[pointed, but I can't harbor ill will - it is destructive.

[stopbush]

76. I'd say he just spared the universe a great deal of negativity.

Why give a R the commission on the home sale? Why give him a big chunk of change so he can turn around and donate part of it to the R war machine so more people will end up dead and disfigured?

I agree with DB on this one. It's an individual boycott. Unless you have problems with the concept of boycotts (which the Rs certainly have NO problems with), then I don't see how you can be against this action. I also have absolutely no problem with DB asking if they were Rs. Know your enemy. I doubt that many companies that get boycotted brought it upon themselves by issuing PSAs stating their political donations and leanings. Someone has to dig that info out for corporations and somethimes you have to dig it out for yourself.

Reason doesn't work with these people. Logic is a loser. The FACTS are treated as opinions. The only thing they understand is the almighty dollar. I say screw 'em.

Oh, and as far as selling the house to an R, I'm all for that...as long as you can gouge them on the price :)! The bottom line is, their R realtor did a lousy job for them. he hadn't sold the home in the contracted time. Why should he be rewarded for his ineptitude?

[July]

122. If they didn't scream at the guy, no issue for me.

No-one is required to spend money in certain places. We can see someone as a likeable man and still invest our money with others.

It isn't intolerance to refuse to do business with someone. They're not responsible for the realtor's ability to make a living, he is. They are free to choose with whom they do business.

[Erika]

46. Mormons Patronize Only Each Other's Business...

and they have been capable of controlling states and legislatures through these tactics. What's wrong with that?

I have been working for days to promulgate lists of democratic businesses. Why give my money to a Bush Republican who enjoyed a great tax break while the rest of the country is falling apart. I'll do business with only democrats from this point on.

[Kimber Scott]

54. I don't live in SLC, but in AZ, Mormons don't ONLY patronize each other's

businesses and they treat people with respect. Right now, I'm damn mad at them over Bush, too, but I'm not ruining life-long friendships over that bastard. He can go divide somebody else.

[Erika]

63. Try Living in Utah or SE Idaho

SLC isn't too bad because it's only 50% Mormon but the other areas will not let any other businesses in that aren't Mormon. You make it to Bishop, and you've got it made.

My point was why not contribute to like thinking people. Why should I spend money at a Mormon GOP business when a democrat is next door? I won't. Mormons in Idaho voted 98.6% GOP. No thanks.

[mitchtv]

95. mormons are vehemently anti gay if one entered my house

I would have to fumigate, then exorcise. Sorry if that sounds intoleant, its only a reaction to a heretical cult

[Gelliebeans]

47. we did it with Sinclair

we do it when we buy products not tested on animals so why should this be any different.

[The FBI Monkey]

51. hmm

hmm

[Straight Shooter]

57. All the Realtors in my area are for *

I think it just goes along with their mentality. I think * is good for the Realtor business, and they are voting their interests. They have no idea what despair does to a country.

Good luck with the house selling. I hope you live in an area that isn't as economically depressed as mine.

[AlCzervik]

61. i am a realtor and many i work with are * supporters

which is amazing because we've had a lot of people calling to list and sell to avoid forclosure. I never ask people i'm finding a house for what they are politcally, some do say of course but many don't mention politics at all.

[GinaMaria]

67. My realtor is a Dem!

She's great. Goes above and beyond and built her business on word of mouth. Sometimes she has too many listings at once, but manages to sell a few so as not to get too overwhelmed. She's awesome. She also introduced me to my very liberal husband. I owe her more than my business. I owe her my happiness :-)

[Robeson]

68. I've been in Real Estate most my life, and ...

...its always amazing that most Realtors I know, do best under a Democratic Administration, yet talk about Democrats as if they're dogs. Its amazing people can't connect some simple dots, i.e. realtors do good under Democrats. They don't under Republicans. You know, I never thought I would see a country so dumbed down, that they don't even understand their own wallets anymore.

[Pithlet]

60. For me, personally, that would go too far.

If I'm happy with my realtor, or anyone who is providing me a service, and politics don't enter into it, and they don't publicly mock liberals and their views, complete with their name and realtor company, then I don't care.

[NorthernSpy]

62. Good for you. Always prefer to do business...

... with people who've got their heads on straight.

There are laws that prevent discrimination on creedal grounds when hiring an employee. However, when buying goods or contracting for a service, an individual has every right to spend his money as he wishes.

:toast:

[mitchum]

64. I applaud you...

THEY are the ones who declared this civil war. No quarter.

[Luna_Chick]

65. On the bright side

Here in Tucson, we have a florist chain called Roses & More. Over the past year each location put something on their large corner signs (identical at each store) about the 2004 election and political/social climate. VERY anti-*,anti-war statements, or profound words of wisdom about how people need to give a damn about what's happening to our country, were set in large letters above their store phone numbers and any specials they were advertising. The first time I saw one I was in the car and drove past before ringing them up on my mobile phone to thank them, a popular business in an unfortunately red state, for having the balls to stand up for our rights, our freedoms, our Constitution. Every few weeks they'd change it to something else.

The day after the election, they all had something telling Dems not to lose heart, that now Bush would have to fix his own messes, no more excuses. Today I drove by one that encouraged everyone to continue the fight. I do not know whether they've encountered any problems about those signs, but if they have, it sure hasn't stopped the owner(s) from continuing the bold posts.

Roses & More will continue to get my business for as long as I'm in Tucson. And I've already boycotted businesses that have Pro-Chimp signs in their windows or on their walls. Think that's bigotry? Maybe. But I'm not gonna roll over and play dead because the regime they're supporting is taking all MY rights - and YOUR rights - away, nor am I going to voluntarily assist them with my pocketbook. Money talks. Fight back.

[Old and In the Way]

70. I'm making choices with my discretionary income, too.

If I need a service and I have a choice (all things being equal) between a Bush supporter and a Kerry supporter, I'm supporting the Kerry supporter.

I've got a business (partnership, actually). We are a small operation and we have a guy that voted for Bush in both elections.....we've had lots of political discussions about politics over the past 4 years. I begged the guy to rethink the reason's for supporting him. My partner hired him when he got layed off in 2000. He's not particularly bright or capable of working in a small operation that requires quick and flexible thinking skills. Frankly, the only reason he survives with us is because we've known him for 20 years. We could lose him in a second and not miss a beat. Anyway, he is a Republican because he thinks Democrats are for big government and welfare. I'm thinking it's almost time that we let this guy get a taste of Republican values.

[Ladyhawk]

98. Can I make choices with my talents?

I'm going to switch choruses. I'd like to find one that isn't run by a Dominionist Rethug.

[Dora]

71. Geez, people - he said he was "saddened by this"

So, give DancingBear a break.

It's not like he's jumping up and down rubbing his hands with glee that he was given this wonderful opportunity to tell a member of his community to f*ck off, his services are no longer needed.

We're being told that this election boiled down to "moral values." Nobody can say what that bullshit redundancy means, but I think it's safe to say that DancingBear felt it necessary to act on his own moral values, and I applaud him for that.

Yay, DancingBear! So sorry for your realtor, but Yay! DancingBear!

You go! You act on those values. A dollar means more than a vote!

[socalover]

72. Car repair shop with huge Bush sign will NOT get my business!

Flame away!

[Erika]

74. Some posters here have been calling Dem leaders pathetic and unwilling

to stand up to Bush and his radical agenda. We can stand up against that agenda by patronizing Democratic businesses. If we're not willing to do that, we shouldn't criticize our leadership for not standing up.

[Pithlet]

92. I think that businesses that put up political signs

deserve to lose business. For stupidity. I would not give them my money, either. Entities vying for my money while publicly pissing on my political ideals lose my business. No flames from me. I do think that prodding an individual to confess their political views before deciding to give or continue to give them their business is crass. But putting up signs at a place of business is a different matter.

[cyn2]

73. Good for you!

There has to be more of this standing up for our beliefs.

[Liberal Mommy]

83. I applaud you!

I can totally understand why you did this and I would have done the same. :thumbsup:

[Emillereid]

80. I've been thinking the same way -- I don't want to support

repukes in any way. I've been thinking of doing some kind of Democratic directory. I got the idea from a time I worked for the Women's Building in LA. Someone had organized a feminist directory in order to encourage support for businesses and services run by feminists. I mean if I'm going to buy X, I might as well buy and support someone of similar political views. I mean we're all willing to boycott the big companies for our politics, so I don't see why we don't do the same thing in a more local way. We've got to stop supporting people who support the fascists.

[Digit]

81. I agree with you.

I am a Realtor also, and my last sale was to a staunch Repug.
Overall, what I have found is a difference in Realtors. Some are looking out for you, some are looking out for themselves. I almost have come to the conclusion that Repugs are interested in $ for themselves and Dems are into people and causes.
I probably would have done the same.

[UpsideDownFlag]

85. well, add this to the list of threads thatll be used in Anti-DU propaganda

thanks.

[July]

124. So? nt

[MADem]

87. You have EVERY RIGHT

To put your money where your mouth is. That is the one freedom they haven't screwed with yet.

I don't go to WALMART. I know they have stuff that is cheaper, it is convenient, etc., but I either do without, buy secondhand, or pay more. It's my choice, just as it is your choice.

Don't let anyone tell you what you can, or cannot do. It's your money, it is your RIGHT to decide where you want to throw your business...or not!

[Neshanic]

88. To you "Ewwww that's awfull!" Why should DB PAY his salary?

Good for you DB!

It's called having a choice of who to do business with.

[linazelle]

89. I bought a house two months ago--from Republicans

If I'd known then, I would've looked elsewhere. I found out when the door-to-door people came pre-election asking for the former owners by name from their registred republican list.

I hindsight, the cheap fuckers didn't leave a stove, washer or dryer...anything that you'd normally get--but not necessarily want in a sale. They took everything obviously because they needed it, and yet they vote for *.

[AmandaRuth]

93. I applaud what you did

when i think about the Clinton witch hunt, the Texas redistricting, the Gray Davis recall, the 2000 election, Faux News, black box voting, Swift Boat Liars, Whoa I am getting all upset, I going to have go have a smoke and a walk outside.

[loudsue]

94. This is GREAT news, and a good start! WalMart isn't the only repug

business that needs to be brought down! Each one of the repugs businesses is giving money to repugs so that they can destroy our Democracy, in the long run....through donations, word of mouth, right-wing talking points with their affiliated organizations... it's a cancer that needs to be neutralized.

We DON'T have a vote, because they own the voting machines.

The only vote we have left is our money. If we don't use THE ONLY PEACETIME WEAPON we have, we'll end up having to use a non-peaceful alternative at some point. DOLLARS....NOT GUNS!!!

I say....STARVE THE BEAST!!!

:kick::kick:

[erniesam]

97. I fired my born again Republican promise keeping dentist in September

[RummyTheDummy]

99. Our realtor is a Bush supporter

She knows we are Dems. It came up during a conversation about post election interest rates.

Anyway, she has worked her ass for us over the last two months. She's gone above and beyond the call of duty and finally found us something that knocked our socks off and was at the right price. We haven't closed yet so I will reserve my final opinion until then, but as far as she goes, she's kicked ass Bush supporter or not.

[Carolab]

100. Don't feel bad

I work in RE and I have no choice but to work with whoever comes through the door with $. I did put my K/E sticker on my car, however, just so they'd know who they were talking to.

[bobbieinok]

101. religious right 'christians' have books listing 'good' businesses

also a website listing 'christian' realtors

they strongly believe in doing this...so clearly it's very moral <sarcasm

[Swamp Rat]

102. EXCELLENT! Right wing nutjobs do it often here in Louisiana to people

they perceive to be 'librul' or non-christian. The only way some of these folks will learn that genocide is bad is if they lose THEIR money. Money money money.

I refuse to do business with ANYONE I perceive to be a Bush supporter.

[JSJ]

103. excellent, excellent, excellent!

[Warren DeMontague]

104. Vote With Your Dollars.

It's one of the only voices we have left.

[Name removed]

107. Deleted message

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[JSJ]

108. man are you out of it- we're boycotting 'arch-conservatives' bucko!

Get ready to shed your assets.

[Piperay]

110. Good for you

I had to dump my mechanic because he had all these hateful anti-Kerry and pro-bush signs up in the window of his station. It's just not a matter of not wanting my money to go to a repuke but frankly I wouldn't trust a repuke to not rip me off. x(

[fujiyama]

111. I probably wouldn't have openly asked

about his political preferences, but I see nothing wrong with it necessarily. I myself try to avoid stores/restaurants, etc that I know contribute to republicans.

I probably wouldn't go and ask every person I meet who they voted for though, but that's just a personal preference.

Even if I did buy a product from a company that votes republican, I would take the savings (and I'm assuming that's the only reason I'd buy something from a repuke) and donate it to liberal causes or the Dem party.

[BiggJawn]

123. The listing expired, and he hadn't sold the house? I'd had fired...

...him just for that. I had 2 Realtors, each who told me they wanted 180-day listings. No buyers. I lost the house. Can't sell a house in 6 months? Absurd!

Did you tell him that he is responsible for this devolution that's going on in this country? If you left it just at "because you're a Republican" then he can rationalize you as rabid pinko-kommie Democrat Liberals.

[DancingBear]

133. Hi BiggJawn

All we said was that it was really important that we work with someone who shares our political views.

We were as gracious as we could be, under the circumstances, but did make him aware that it was important to us.

Hope that answers your question.

[BiggJawn]

135. That's a good answer.

Maybe he got the point.
Anyway, hope you find a buyer soon. I know how stressfull trying to sell a house is.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

127. if you want to divide this country...good on ya

if you wish to help put it back together...this sort of attitude and action will not work. In order to change the course of this country you have to have the ears of those who would direct said course...pushing them away is the last thing to do...educate them...don't alienate them...

theProdigal

...and by divide I mean literally secede

[OneTwentyoNine]

128. I'm self-employed and would be out of business....

If I or the people I work for took that course of action. Around here its about 60/40 for Republicans. Try running a business and telling 60% or your clientèle that you refuse to do their work because they voted Republican.

Smart move,after my business failed I could go work for Walmart at $5.15 per hour instead of making $25-30. Thanks but no thanks...

[Eurobabe]

129. you go DB! it IS war, economic war now...

I too, refuse to support the non-critical thinking idiots in this country who support the Christo-Fascist Bu$h regime.

My trash hauler was the first Bu$hBot to go. I say, you want a fucking economic divide? We'll GIVE YOU ONE....bring it on!

[lectrobyte]

131. I did the same thing -- there was a nursery/landscaping company

I've spent a bit of money with over the past few years, and I was shocked to see about a month before the election, they had put up a big-ass B/C size sign... I'm not talking about a yard sign that someone could have planted in front of the place, I'm talking about a wooden 6 by 4 feet or so sign. WTF? I like the place, but if they are so stupid as to alienate at least 45% of their potential customers, then I don't want to support them, so I won't be going back. I understand business folks having a political preference, that's OK, but if I were running a business, I would do my best to keep politics out of it.

[Piperay]

136. The mechanic that I dumped for being a repig

not only had a mean nasty anti-Kerry plus pro-chimp signs in his window but a sign that said "No Bozos". :eyes: I am assuming he thinks all Democrats are "Bozos" and pretty much with that sign said that he does NOT want our business. I accommodated him by no longer giving him my business, I wouldn't want to inflict my "Bozo" self on him. :eyes:

[yardwork]

132. The Republicans mixed business with politics long ago

so it's a little disingenuous for them to complain now that we liberals are catching on. They've called us names like "fuzzy-headed" for long enough. We can play tough too.

[FlaGranny]

138. Hey, everyone in this thread -

we went through this very same thing after the 2000 election. It got so bad I left DU for three whole months. Have patience and this discussion will fade from view and we'll get back to normal discussions - if there can be such a thing as normal discussions with the arrogant bastard in our White House.

[RetroLounge]

140. Barbwer shop I used to frequent put up bush* signs

I now go to a Democratic Kerry-supporter for my hair cuts.

Way to go DB.

Vote with dollars!

RL

[West Coast Democrat]

141. He would have stood to make a lot of money selling your house...

I don't blame you for wanting to give someone else your business.

[0rganism]

142. Where are you going to get health insurance?

The insurance industry is jam-packed with people who love the shrub. Even if your local agent is a Democrat, everything except the commission and recordkeeping costs is going to GOP owners and investors.

[jdj]

147. yeah, but if you're dead you're somewhat ineffective as well.

so there are some gray areas.

[da_chimperor]

145. Despite what some others have said in this thread, I like what you did

It's your house, and it's your choice who to give the task of selling it to. I respect your decision and your reasons. More power to ya!