For all of you folks that bravely posted your real names on the 'net

[Thtwudbeme]

Take a very good look at what we Liberals are willing to do to a woman who JUST AS FREELY posted her personal opinions on the Atlanta Journal Constitution website, and on FreeRepublic.

I don't think I like this woman; I sure as hell don't like her opinion.

However, just as I got upset about someone trying to get a DUer fired from a radio station (sorry dude, can't remember your name), I am just as grossed out by the nastiness shown towards the personal life and job of this woman.

Now, are you really really glad you gave out your real name? Are you really ready to say "Bring it on?" Do you really trust human nature that much? I hope you are because that thread has been copied many times now by people that will be perfectly willing to contact your boss and tell him or her that your company will now be boycotted. If you own your own company, well, ducky for you---

Stephanie

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

1. I don't know what you are talking about.

Nor, would I go after her for her position. But that's just me.

[Thtwudbeme]

5. Here's the thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=2642154&mesg_id=2642154

Why post if you did not know what I was talking about?

Stephanie

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

9. Why?

Because if someone is going after her, that was my way of saying that I do not agree, foursquare. Beat her on ideas, not harassment for her opinions.

Besides, knowing some real estate people as I do, she is whistling past the graveyard. The market ain't that good.

[Thtwudbeme]

10. OK!

I was really curious; I always love your posts and have never seen you reply to something when you did not know what the other poster was talking about-

Steph

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

14. Here's a kiss for you.

Thank you for the kind words. I mean that.

[bowens43]

2. never mind

deleted

[TryingToWarnYou]

6. ROFL...guess you saw your comments like I did

I was replying to you when you changed your mind.

I was going to tell you that since you arent afraid, feel free to change your name right now to your real name.

[TryingToWarnYou]

3. Uh oh... get ready to be called fearmongerer or worse

But I agree with you. Unfortunately those that chose to 'stand up' by announcing their real names have no idea what its like to go through the hell that is some asshole messing with your real life.

I fear though that you are wasting your time telling them this as they are going to tell you that they arent going to be afraid, live in fear yada yada yada.

Of course, when the cause and effect comes into play they will be here crying about losing their jobs, being harrassed etc. You cant win with people that want to be professional victims.

[LWolf]

19. Choose fear, choose courage.

What a choice.

Choose to wallow in despair, rage, frustration, or choose to move forward.

Choose to spend your time talking about fear, or choose to spend your time talking about how to take action to move forward.

It's all a choice. I don't choose fear. I'm sorry that some feel the need to wallow in it.

I don't really care if someone chose to "out" themselves on DU or not; I respect each DUers choice, and don't feel the need to denigrate it either way. Or use it to promote more doom, gloom, and fear.

That's the tactic GWB used to "win." I'd rather not use, or be associated with, his tactics.

Just my choice.

[Thtwudbeme]

21. It's not about "fear"

it's a choice about how much information about yourself you choose to put on the internet.

In a few weeks, if a DUer posts, "I am in trouble at work" because some Republican found out they knew them...or looked them up....am I supposed to feel sorry for them?

Is anyone?

There's not such a fine line between "fear" and "caution."

[LWolf]

29. I would call it common sense,

rather than fear or caution. It's a choice, whether or not to "come out" to the world. I respect that choice either way.

I didn't choose to "come out" on DU; not out of fear, but because I don't need to. I "come out" in real life; there isn't anyone who knows me in the physical, rather than cyber, world, that doesn't know exactly where I stand. And that includes the republicans, right-wingers, and freepers that I deal with on a daily basis. I have been "attacked" in LTTEs in my local paper. I'm still functioning quite well.

For me it's about respect; respecting the choice of others, and not pandering to fear with predictions of "attack." Again, that's how GWB campaigned. His tactics are not for me.

Can we not respect both choices? To "come out," or not?

[TryingToWarnYou]

47. THANK YOU!!! WELL SAID!

Its not about fear, but some people, in the rush to overcome bad feelings, etc. will do stupid things and then live to regret them. Think before you act.

[neomonkey]

51. I agree, it's not about fear at all

I consider myself rather ballsy and I'm willing to stick my neck out but I will not tempt fate either.

Caution is NOT fear. DU is not Alcoholics Anonymous, there is no assumed obligation to lay our true identity's on the table. If I hook up with someone on this board and deem them trustworthy, I have no problem giving them my real name. However, I will not post it for the global audience, if I can help it at all.

[bettyellen]

61. Yeah, maybe you should feel just a bad about a the injustice of it all.

But it doesn't sound like it's your thing. And that's fine if it works for you.
But a lot of us wouldn't be so accepting or complacent. So don't expect us to be. I really did get the impression that there'd be so many "whiners" on that list. So far the whiners are limited to you and that real estate agent.

[Thtwudbeme]

69. Whining?

I was trying to explain that trying to get a woman fired from her job for her political views--no matter how disgusting to us---is a fairly ugly thing to do, and that DUers that posted their real names on the internet might want to remember that.

How is that whining there BettyLou?

[bettyellen]

79. what are you, everybody's mother? wah wah, don't come crying to me if ...

you go putting your name on a list and it gets you in trouble.
I'm sorry, I think you do sound whiny, yet you are predicting all those who outed themselves are going to end up crying about it. Well, so far, no ones wringing their hands except for you. And since we're a bunch of grownups who don't care what you think, perhaps you can spare us your "concern".
From your tone I have to believe that you'd love them to get in trouble, because you're too invested in convincing everybody that you are right. It was stupid. because you think so.
I'm really not too worried about the realtor who wrote that hateful letter, I don't think theres all that much to compare to the statement sign off on here, unless you are paranoid. I have faith in the people who signed can and will cope with the consequences, whether or not you "told them so".

[Mizmoon]

24. Professional victims?

:wtf:

[TryingToWarnYou]

25. Yes...

people going out of their way to ensure they catch hell.

[Mizmoon]

30. Funny, I always called people who stood up for their beliefs "heros"

silly me.

[TryingToWarnYou]

44. Yes, you are silly. There is 'heroism' and then there is stupidity.

If you are so tied to your convictions, please proceed to change your posting name to your real name if you have nothing to fear.

[bettyellen]

62. Yeah, that's a screwed up take on things, it's very much like my crazy

control freak aunt peggy who's always saying don't do this, don't do that so that any single thing you do wrong, she can point to and say- i told you not to!!
Oh it must be fun to be right all the time, to spend all your time warning people about things they are nne to concerned about and yet live in fear yourself!
professional victims? could have have waited till a single person piped up to complain? No, I suppose then she couldn't say "I told you so".

[ScreamingMeemie]

38. Yes I do. For 14 years my ex has stalked me on and off. Phone calls

drive bys...you name it. But, I've never been afraid of that, and I refuse to be afraid of what some idiot thinks they can do with my name. Live free or die. :hi:

Unfortunately, some seem to think they know what motivates other people.

[Dogmudgeon]

4. It comes down to a single distinction

Does this woman use her Coldwell Banker connection to promote her political agenda?

If no, leave her alone.

If yes, have at her.

This isn't a covert, back-door scam like the attempted firing of the DUer. This is above-board: "If you empower your employees to support a political movement I disagree with, I will no longer use your company's services."

I used to work in a similar industry, Insurance. We were forbidden to talk politics. We could ask our clients for dates if we so wanted to, but we could NOT talk politics AT ALL. It's death to financial organizations.

But to reiterate, if she did not tie her politics to her real estate practice, then "no harm -- no foul" and fight her in the pages of the Atlanta Constitution-Journal.

--bkl

[Bunny]

28. I'm with you, BKL.

There is NOTHING WRONG with contacting Coldwell Banker and telling them that you will not use their services, because of what this woman wrote. The boycott is an age old American tradition!!

Demanding that she be fired for it is inappropriate, but frankly, if she was so stupid and/or contemptuous that she would purposely alienate 49% of her potential customer base, then the chips may just have to fall where they may.

She could just as easily have written her letter or op-ed piece without revealing her profession AND posting her picture. She chose to do this, and we can choose to boycott her company because of it. What Coldwell Banker decides to do in response to a boycott is up to them.

[ScreamingMeemie]

7. Let them try...

I've got nothing to worry about. :hi:

And, as a real estate agent, she should know better. I work in the field, and she pulled an idiotic move. :hi:

[Thtwudbeme]

8. Maybe YOU don't

but, what about the people who saw that "I am BRAVE" thread (to the DUer that posted that...no offense, but I have no clue as to who you even are) and got carried away by anger--and posted.

What about all the DUers that are one paycheck away from homelessness?

I thought it was stupid then; but now, I am just grossed out.

Steph

[vetwife]

12. My pic has been posted on FR and C-Span ..They know who we are !

Hiding behind a screen name is what THEY do !

[TryingToWarnYou]

23. They dont know who *I* am.

Its about using some caution. You wouldnt walk up to a total stranger on the street and reveal personal information about yoursef, why do it on one of the most visited boards on the net? To make a point? Get real.

I respect all that you have done, Vetwife, but honestly, you are asking for trouble so do not be surprised when it manifests itself in the worst way possible.

[ScreamingMeemie]

34. I'd gladly do it again. Job or not. It's our country and real values at

stake. Not this hopped up patriotic jingoism. I'm not buying into fear and I'm sorry that you have.

[Thtwudbeme]

35. Starving Patriots generally

don't fight very well.

If you want to be harrassed at work, or risk losing your job...go for it!

[ScreamingMeemie]

36. Thanks, I will. If you don't, don't, but expect just this reaction

when you post threads like this. I want my country back. Pity some don't seem to care. Have a great one! :hi:

[Thtwudbeme]

40. ?

"Some don't seem to care."

I didn't realize it was a school holiday today.

Grow up; I do care. If you "want your country back" (and I am not really sure which one you are fantasizing) you might begin by urging DUers NOT to try to get people fired whose political views they don't happen to agree with--and by realizing that by posting personal information on the internet could get you hurt.

[Flammable Materials]

72. Everyone at work knows my political leanings.

I'm known as the guy who wears my politics on my sleeve. Or more precisely, on the back window of my hatchback.

Currently, it reads "We're all wearing the blue dress now."

By the way, my boss and my supervisor both voted for Kerry. As did most of the security guards at my building - all of whom seem to like me very much.

I'm not worried at all about my job.

[Chelsea Patriot]

41. Being Out is only for the Brave!

Coming out either as Gay or as a Memeber of DU requires a certain level of courage.

You know it, if you have it!

[Name removed]

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[Skidmore]

13. I've lived in an oppressive country in

the Middle East for over a decade. I will not live in fear in my own country. If I cannot stand in the public square and state my name and my opinions and have the two connected then we have truly become what we rail against.

I posted my name in that thread. I have expressed my views in much more threatening environments have have lived to tell. I will not back down.

[SammyWinstonJack]

27. I am willing to bet they know who we are even without us posting our

names on a DU thread.

[Hubert Flottz]

15. You weaken yourself when you give your enemy your personal

information!

http://www.prismagems.com/castaneda/

Read these books and get right back to me!

[Malva Zebrina]

16. My guess was that this woman probably wants potential clients

in a heavy Republican area and a heavy evangelical Christian area.

As far as real names, anyone who writes a LTTE is exposing just as much of themself. Anyone who displays a sign in their frontyard for Kerry/Edwards is plainly identified by their name on their mailbox and anyone displaying a bumper sticker , say a DU.com sticker,can also be identified by their license plate. Personal check written while wearing a KE button? Has your name and address on it.

[Flammable Materials]

73. ... and your bank routing number, and your account number. n/t

[kcwayne]

17. There is a distinction between the Realtor's post and announcing what

you stand for.

The realtor's post was an in your face assault on liberals, and a childish gloat. She challenges people to retaliate against her.

Posting a declaration of "This is who I am, and I stand up for the principles of democracy, liberalism, and peace" which was this gist of many of those posts is not equivalent to the attack post of the realtor. The realtor probably detests people who declare they are liberal, but it is not the same a being called a godless perverted murderer which was the gist of the realtor's post. That being said, there are posters that make equivalently vicious attacks on fundies and Republicans, so it is a two way street as you suggest.

Will Pitt has no problem with announcing exactly who he is, and he can testify as to the risks of having the courage to go online and be accountable for what you say. The web community would be alot more sane if everyone did the same and thus felt the practical need to be more measured in what they say should they be held accountable.

The bottom line to me is that at some point, you have to stand behind your positions, and be ready to directly defend them if you want your vision to be realized. The only democracy and justice that exists in the cyber world is virtual. Being a virtual citizen is easier because there are no consequences other than tired fingers. But it is not actionable in the non-virtual world.

[JanMichael]

18. Will Pitt writes for a Liberal publication; when he was a teacher

he screamed like hell when a Freeper tried to find out the name of his school in Massachusetts.

Actually, using Pitt was a fabulous example...he did NOT stand up on the net and say, "Yes! Call my boss immediately!" Not by a long shot.

Note, Pitt's mom has NEVER used her real name on this board...and that woman's balls are just as brassy as her kids. (Raven, I meant that as a compliment)

Stephanie, not Michael---

[cheezus]

43. as I recall, Will got hit in the head with a brick, recently

I'd been assuming it was a freeper attack.

[salin]

45. his writing seemed to indicate

that he was casting it as an attempted mugging.

[JanMichael]

59. Pitt was mugged in Boston

I doubt the guy was mad about his voting record.

Stephanie

[bo44]

20. she needs to feel the pain of discovering not every person in our USA

is not a bible thumping hate monger. I hope she gets fucked over big time for pimping her views.

[Thtwudbeme]

22. And I sure she feels the same about you

How's the weather in the gutter by the way?

[mhr]

55. Quite Fine And I Will Continue To Undermine The Idiocy Of Those

That choose Bush and his idiocy each and every day for the rest of my life.

Maybe it is time you reassess your affiliation.

Appeasement is what beget Hitler.

Read your history!

[Zomby Woof]

26. YEAH BABY!

The unvarnished ThtwudbemeTroof. :hi:

[formernaderite]

31. Hopefully none of my clients will ever ask me who I voted for....

...I work as a contractor...this boycott bullshit pisses me off. In the end this kind of crap always hurts the little guy.

[mmonk]

32. The question is

how do we fight back after 4 years of slander and intimidation from the right? Continue to be nicey nicey as we get rolled over? Quite a dilema.

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

33. That realtor thread is just sad

I am grossed out by it too. I notice the realtor's profile is no longer available on CB; one can imagine why.

It is standard for newspapers to print the profession and location of readers who submit commentary, unless the writer requests anonymity. The realtor said nothing in her piece about her profession; as for her place of business, it was the OP who made that link, and that's invasion of privacy.

Edit to add: Now there's a thread complaining that the realtor's profile is gone. That's called stalking, folks. If someone did it to you, you'd be shitting bricks, and calling the law.

[salin]

39. agreed

not one of our collective better moments. And the item wasn't even that offensive. Arrogant? yes. Somewhat ignorant of the facts? absolutely. Offensive? nah - we have read that - threats of violence... threats against employment... treating those with differing views as threats to the country... she did none of that. She was just engaging in sore-winnerism. Not a reason to justify stalking imo.

[omnithrope]

46. it was pretty slimy to do to her.

n/t

[Strawman]

48. Agreed. I'll never understand the motivation to ruin someone's life

If you actually think that someone who disagrees with you isn't entitled to state their opinion in a public forum without reprisal, I don't think you're a liberal. This wasn't some corporation funding a right wing social agenda, it was one woman, a citizen who is entitled to voice her opinion, however obnoxious it might be. That thread reads like an online mob scene.

"I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."
-Voltaire

That's a foundational moral value of political liberalism.

[DS1]

37. No shit - I was shocked to see one name on there

in its entirety. Must be lack of sleep ;-)

[Carni]

42. What the "liberals" are doing to her? She did that to herself

Bullshit on this...that nit wit of a woman linked C.B. to her blatherings and I have zero sympathy.

If I were the head of a company and I found out that an employee or the owner of one of my franchises... had used MY good name to support THEIR OWN political agenda in a public fashion I would can their ass or pull their franchise.

I just read her asinine letter and the only reason she included her profession in her bullshit op-ed is because she is trying to gain customers via way of her political views...

She created her own problem when she tried to network and gain customers while giving the other side of the aisle the finger/
and shame on her for dragging C.B.'s name into the deal.

I have NO sympathy for this arrogant greedy woman.

[shrike]

49. I doubt anything will happen to her

She's in Georgia. Her boss will probably be give her a raise.

[Straight Shooter]

50. You say we "bravely" post our names, then you say we "do stupid things"

Flip-flopper :P

I appreciate your sentiment, the world is nuts, but everyone I know understands how I feel. I'm not in people's faces, I explain things calmly if they're willing to listen. If not, I move on and hope that time will bring the truth home to them.

Also, my name and hometown have been published in BuzzFlash several times with commentaries that are much more scathing than merely saying I'm not going to be silenced into submission.

Martin Luther King, a personal hero of mine, said it best: Silence is consent.

[JanMichael]

52. Heh. I leave you alone with the computer for three hours and THIS...

...happens???

You should know that many people won't understand that trying to get a person fired for voicing their opinion (Note: As in non-celebrities not politicians, celebrities etcetera. I suppose there are extreme examples but generally sopeaking Jane Doe does deserve a bit of tolerance.) on the web is not cool. It isn't cool when it's done to a DU'er OR a Freeptard.

As to placing their own real names on to DU in anger/pride/whatever? I can only say that certain jobs simply don't permit that while some do.

Nobody puts Baby in the corner!

[mhr]

53. She Made Herself A Target By Attacking Liberals So Publicly

Criticizing her is entirely ethical and appropriate.

If we let these people think that their ideas are universally acceptable, we further enable them.

The people that posted their identities here was not a directed attack on a whole group of people. Instead it was a statement of personal principles and ethics.

[Mick Knox]

54. Freep tards will prowl that thread like wolves

And attack a weaker vulnerable person IMO.

Once this lady has been attacked, they will want revenge.

We are like a flock of Ducks, safety in numbers - one of us will surely go down to the freeper shotgun, but it wont be "me"... but this gives freepers a very real reason to attack, and they have proven to be dangerous.

You dont think 100 freepers have saved that thread to their computer?

Well, I know it wont be me - I considered all of this type of stuff DU and FR loves to pull on eachother with glee, and choose not to respond to that thread.

My name John E. Smith

and I approve of this message.

[Patiod]

56. Oh for God's sake

I'm a f&%king Democratic committeewoman. If they want to target me, DU isn't going to be much more public than being on the local ballot running for committeewoman.

If I associate my company with rants, I deserve what I get (which, given the owner's politics, might include a raise or a bonus).

[JanMichael]

57. Kick

:kick:

[Abelman]

58. n/t

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson

[independentpiney]

60. I'm not afraid bridgekeeper

In case they missed it the first time:
Tom Demko
Bayville, NJ

Want to bring it on?
Go for it

[JNelson6563]

63. I work at Dem HQ

They have been actively plotting against my "employer" since the dawn of time. A mere boycott would be welcome change. ;-)


Julie (the "J" in "JNelson")

[Misunderestimator]

64. Fat chance of my Republican company being boycotted.

And if I was using my company's NAME to trash someone, then I'd deserve the criticism.

(On edit... I haven't read any of the threads that I hear now have been posting her personal information... I totally disagree with that kind of behavior, but as Pithlet says below, posting your name here to stand up for your beliefs is quite a different thing than someone using their company's name to thumb their nose at others... and not just one candidate or another, but an entire group of 55+ million people.)

[Pithlet]

65. Yes to the name thing

And I still stand behind many DUers in their reaction to that idiot. Posting your name on a message board, and writing that idiotic screed with her name, picture and company she works for are two vastly different things. No one has to use her as their realtor. They certainly don't have to use her after she has insulted them. And, that is what she did. I feel the same way about any business that puts up political signs in their place of business. What she did was even worse than that. It was a big old FU to half the country, and probably at least a part of her clientele.

[Pithlet]

66. And, while we're at it.

Why don't you just direct any freepers to that thread? Maybe point out the ones who dissed the poor wittle realtor who thinks our ideals were rejected? It dropped off the first page long ago. There may have been a few right wing crazies who didn't see it. Thanks.

[Thtwudbeme]

70. Oh please

give me a break, you think the Republicans missed a thread with 700 posts?

Yeah.

OK, I need to go feed the unicorns in the backyard now...brb.

Steph

[Pithlet]

74. It was a beautiful moment on DU

And your post pissed all over that. Particularly since most of those 700 posters didn't even participate in the realtor threads. That thread had nothing to do with that realtor. You are the one who decided to bring it up, and in the title of your post, to boot.

[Thtwudbeme]

76. You actually counted the number in both threads?

Damn, Pith...after 4 years of "knowing" you on DU, I sure as hell didn't recognize that you had Rainman tendencies.

I can't believe you would support such a nasty campaign. I am surprised at you.

Stephanie

PS, sorry can't remember your real name, so guess I'll just have to stick with "Pith," ok?

[Pithlet]

78. Uh, I don't recall actually quoting any numbers

But, I can vaguely recall that not everyone in that thread wanted to see her lose her job. I certainly don't. Never said I did. I don't support any nasty campaign. I support the right for people on a message board to disagree and even be downright angry at someone who insulted their "rejected ideals" and posted their name and employer along with it. And, I don't support pointing out that thread where people posted their names in a moving moment of solidarity that had NOTHING to do with that thread, and even happened before it, and using it to prove a point. I'm no rainman, but I'm willing to bet that there are people who gave their name in that thread who would agree with you. But, the freepers won't give a damn. It makes no difference to them Everyone on that list is the enemy.

It was a shitty thing to do. And I would say that no matter who you were, or how long you've been on this board, or whether or not you were a DUer that I liked or respected.

[Thtwudbeme]

80. If you didn't want your name on the internet, then

you shouldn't have put your name on the internet.

I can go back and find the thread where I first saw my husband from 2 and a half years ago...on the OLD DU.

Figure it out. Should you not want to be harrassed at work, then take a CLUE here.

It's not rocket science.

Shooting the messenger isn't going to help, Pith.

Stephanie

[Pithlet]

82. Not my point.

I never said I regretted posting my name. I'm not sorry I posted in that thread, even after your thread here. I'm just calling you on what you did.

[walldude]

67. I have news for you

if you think they don't already know who you are then you really haven't been paying attention. You think they haven't been watching this board from day one? However paranoid you are you are not paranoid enough...

[Thtwudbeme]

81. Yeah, except that now "WE" have become

the "They" everyone is so afraid of.

Great.

[cally]

68. I'm very confused by your post

If you were concerned about DUers posting their real names, then why didn't you post DURING the thread. The thread is gone and now you express your concerns. :shrug: Seems mighty strange to me.

[Thtwudbeme]

71. Don't be confused

I was disgusted by over 200 posts on DU hoping a Republican woman loses her real estate job because she posted a Republican letter on the Atlanta Journal Constitution website.

I was reminding DUers that they posted their real names last week, and that they could expect the same treatment.

Stephanie

[cally]

89. I share that concern

but I also applaud the chutzpah of all those who chose to take a stand. We need more like them.

[bettyellen]

86. i don't sense the genuine concern, i hear" idiotic" and "i told you so"

I feel bad if she really needs to worry about her job just for being a commited democrat. But I think she ought to maybe worry more about herself then, not the people on the list. Because if that were me, I'd just have to move myself to more hospitable enviorns, rather than live in fear. I could not do that.
But I grew up and live in a big liberal city, where we let our neighbors be who they are without attacking them. I'm fortunate in that respect, and I know it.

[Thtwudbeme]

88. I just figured out who you are

Been a while, eh?

;)

Still a fan of pies and poodles?

[Name removed]

92. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[PretzelWarrior]

75. not sure if you were referring to my post or not...

but I actually posted a comment wondering aloud if she had been fired. I actually commented at the time that this would be a bit harsh.

I don't agree with calling someone's boss or place of work to try getting them fired.

However, I did email her and tell her in a polite way why I thought she was wrong.

Now....as to posting our names? Who cares? There's always other jobs out there. And if they want to try something more malicious...good. I'll make sure it is one more freeper locked up and unable to vote for awhile.

[Thtwudbeme]

77. Who cares? What other jobs?

are you serious? Ebay? Cheney, is that you????

[mitchum]

83. But if she is "martyred for her smug beliefs, didn't we actually do her...

a favor? I think that her crazyass Nazarene death cult places a high value on such "suffering"
Her OP ED piece in the AJC was both a snide retort to us and an attempt to curry favor with a customer base in Atlanta. I am very familiar with "The Town Too Busy To Think" Believe me, she wants to sell shoddy, overpriced McMansions to her fellow rednecks in polo shirts.
No quarter.

[Iris]

84. Someone please tell me where to find info. about this realtor!

I'm about to buy a house and I'm not going to give money to someone like I think she sounds like.

[Name removed]

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[LittleClarkie]

87. I'm not concerned because

1. The people I work and socialize with already know who I spent 4 months of my life supporting. I was all buttoned and bumper-tickered and t-shirted up for the duration. We've already had the inevitable discussions.

2. My bosses and the business itself here in a Red county both fit into the constituency that they are thanking for the election. To boycott them would be to cut their own constituent's throats. Half the people around me are pro-life Evangelicals. It wouldn't make alot of sense.

The other half are just Republicans. There's maybe a half dozen who are left leaning and/or pro-Kerry voters. We spent alot of time whispering to each other.

3. I personally didn't call for this lady's boycott. Let her express her opinion. It's her business whether or not she wants to write a LTTE. If I can, she can. And the paper can publish it. And my newspaper can publish an editorial calling some people's votes "counter-intuitive." Free country.

Besides, my picture's in the paper already. If someone wants to have issues with me, I've got people alot closer than them with plenty of opportunity.

Eh. Personally, I wouldn't want to try to put someone out of business because they wrote a letter. Something criminal, yes. A letter to the editor, no.

[AmyStrange]

90. I've been posting my name here since 2002...

never got harrased or lost a job or anything... although I have gotten a bunch of penis enlargement spam since then.

Here's my lifestory if you want to read it:
http://Dave.AmyStrange.com/

many (alot of) the links don't work... yet,

d

[bettyellen]

93. dave, do you know what the poodle and pie connection is?

i just outed myself again, because this steph thinks we have a history including poodles and pies.
it's a laugh riot!

[AmyStrange]

94. no don't have a clue darn it...

everyone's switching ids. I'm keeping mine and it's like at the end of a long halloween party when everyone takes off their mask,

d

[bettyellen]

95. this steph person thinks they know who i am , if i had any business with

poodles or pies... i'm sure i would remember it! Not too partial to poodles......
some poodle lover mixed it u with steph once and boy, she ain't letting it go!

[KT2000]

91. This may be apples and oranges

700 people in a show of solidarity state their real names and their convictions in a thread.

a couple hundred (?) people participate in a thread about a realtor's LTTE where she attacks liberals and mentions her employer. Someone attempts to have her fired.

therefore, people who posted their real names are stupid for exposing themselves to such risk? is that it?

Whether you are speaking out against racism, corporate bullying, polluters that are making the kids sick, a president that's hellbent on slaughtering his way around the world - or stating your name on the internet to make a stand for your beliefs - I think everyone is aware that there are risks involved.

I have made personal stands over the years and felt fear after a letter was published or I said something in a public meeting - but that's the way it is if you don't want to drink the Kool-aid. That's just the way it is and I think most people know that so what's the big deal?

[ReadTomPaine]

96. Welcome to the culture war. No retreat, no surrender, no remorse.

I don't care if they post things online or not, you should fire Republicans employees anyway, simply for being Republicans. If you think they don't and haven't been doing that for years already, you simply aren't paying attention.

Demoralize them. Divide them. Make them scream "please, please stop!". Then push some more. If they aren't squealing in protest, you aren't trying hard enough.

RTP