What is the best indicator of ELECTION FRAUD?

[JohnnyCougar]

Chose only one, the one you think MOST makes the case.

[whalerider55]

1. for me?

that Karl Rove breathes.

whalerider55

[kostya]

2. Some combination of the above, so didn't vote.

[On the Road]

3. Other: So Far, There Are Only TWO Indicators

solid enough to go to the press, and the source data for both needs to be verified first:

1) Ballots exceeding registered voters (Ohio), and
2) Ballots exceeding voters showing up at the polls (Florida).


Please, please, concentrate on these two. Forget exit polls and type of voting device for the moment, until the possibility of fraud is better accepted. More votes than voters is universally accepted as evidence of fraud. It is the crack in the facade that we can use to pry the this whole mess wide open.

[JohnnyCougar]

4. I like your reasoning.

The real reason I posted this was because I think after we get an investigation, focusing on the cover-up will get us more than the actual fraud. I wanna find out who "adjusted" the exit polls and why, and why the WH is trying to stop this story from getting on the news.

If there is evidence of a cover-up, you KNOW they are guilty.

[On the Road]

9. The Exit Polls HAD To Be Adjusted

The original weightings can only be assigned based on expectations. Whenever turnout differs greatly from expectations, the exit polls cannot be weighted properly and MUST be reweighted.

Now, I am not saying the election was free of fraud. I just don't think this is the argument to bring to the public. The worst situation would be if widespread fraud WAS committed but allegations were dismissed because the weakest arguments were made first.

All we need is one charge to stick. It just has to be the right one.

[TX-RAT]

5. Bush Won!

[AngryOldDem]

6. Took the words right out of my mouth.

A Bush win to me will always mean that fraud is involved, somehow, some way.

[TX-RAT]

8. Sorry, didn't mean to steal you thunder.

[AngryOldDem]

14. No problem! LOL

...great minds, and all that.

:hi:

[Lilli]

13. My first thought as well

Great minds...ya know. :)

[baldguy]

7. Republicans

Republican owners of voting-machine companies;
Republicans determining who can & can't vote;
Republicans deciding which votes will & won't be counted;
Republicans saying "move along, nothing to see here" when people want to find out whats happening.

[TrustingDog]

10. that there are more dumb people than smart people?

who the frick in their right minds would vote for more of the burning bush? It's coup numero 3.

something smells, the smoke alarms are going off. But there is no one to address this publicly and honourably and citisenry (yes, we are citisens, NOT consumers) by the Mess Media.

Let's accept that.

[AllyCat]

11. My real feelings not represented heree

Personally, I think the trouble lies in the fact that many counties have more votes cast than registered voters and that the system could be hacked by someone poring over "Windows for Dummies" for the very first time. Some combination of all these elements has come into play and that's what the Rove strategy was from the beginning.

We must stop them!

[Nordic]

12. All of the above right now

Maybe I'm just wearing the "They Live" glasses, but it seems pretty obvious

[Zorra]

15. Voting machines that produce results that cannot be recounted.

End of story.

[morgan2]

16. its a combination

of the glitches all going for bush, the exit polls not matching, and bush's history. We all knew there would be evoting glitches, because these systems were rushed to be finished, and contracts were awarded like we were rebuilding iraq(poltical connections, not competency). The fact that it all went one way and the exit polls don't match, tell a very clear tale that the this election was manipulated.