For Those Willing To Cave on Abortion and Gay Rights...

[Yavin4]

understand that the Christian Theocracy movement won't stop if they win on these issues. Fanatical movements don't give back power willingly. There will be other issues that they will target: divorce, contraception, prayer in schools, and the co-mingling of church and state. These people want a complete Christian Theocracy in America, and they won't stop until they get it. Anyone any where that doesn't look like them and worship like them will be made a target. This is not about campaign tactics. This is about a movement that has full control over our most fundamental institutions, the WH, the Congress, the Courts, and the media. One more thing, it won't end when Bush and Rove are gone. There will be others who will rise and propose even more radical agendas.

If the Dems start pandering to them in any way, the Dems will lose. There is no Democratic candidate that can even come close to winning these people over. No one, and that includes Hillary and Joe Lieberman. Even if the Dems caved on everything, they'd still vote for Republicans, no matter what. Why would they trust a Democrat on these issues?

[wryter2000]

1. I'm not willing to cave on either

You're right. That's just a foot in the door for them.

[demokatgurrl]

2. Absolutely right. NO MORE PANDERING.

Our very Democracy is at stake. Don't give in to fear and bigotry.

[pagerbear]

3. "And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me."

William Bowles

http://www.williambowles.info/ini/ini-0180.html

[WindRavenX]

4. I ain't budging

If you're anti-choice and anti-gay rights, you can fuck off. PERIOD.
The gloves are off; I am no longer playing nice.

[miss_kitty]

5. I will not unify behind the bigoted cheney bush junta

and I was offended Mr Kerry saw fit to ask that of the majority of Americans who voted for him as President.

The Dems HAVE been pandering to them in EVERY way. Since they let the thieves take over in 2000. It's time to stop it now.

[Misunderestimator]

6. Very well put and very true.

[movonne]

7. Any dem that would cave is not a dem...I am so sick of this crap...

should we do this, so we do that...there is still more of us than them..it is we just do not stick together like the fundies do...I would rather try and let the sane ones join us...

[sandnsea]

8. They're being manipulated

The Republicans got their mailing lists. They mailed out all kinds of anti-Democrat, anti-liberal garbage. The "Christian" PACS are funded by Republicans. It's just another Repubican propaganda strategy, just like the NRA & 2nd Amendment rights. We have to understand we're fighting the same Republican money machine we've always been fighting and it's name is Corporate America. Democrats can end it tomorrow, pull their investments and buy NOTHING but food.