Voter Fraud is provable!

[RBHam]

Let's get this straight. Bev Harris is on to something. She's got multiple org's working on this. She has been in touch with the FBI.

Multiple organizations working on this.

Edited on Fri Nov-05-04 07:19 AM by BevHarris
My bet is that we'll see the lawyers we've been hearing about coming forward shortly. Outstanding work by Kathy Dopp, if you haven't seen it yet. This work alone cries for a paper ballot audit of the optical scan counties in Florida.

Serious anomalies with central tabulators are showing up, in dozens of Florida counties.

The ludicrous flaw of the day is, of course, the Broward central tabulator that counted backwards.

This is an effort of many talented organizations. It would be a mistake to assume that the coming meltdown was caused only by Black Box Voting, though I must admit that we do kick ass. What you're going to see is the result of we, the people, collectively mobilizing to take back our vote.

Here's another thing, while you're letting the word "fraud" roll off your tongue: We do not have to accept a fraudulent election. Drop the idea that it's too late to correct this mess. We have a great country, and it is in our nature to roll up our sleeves and tackle tough challenges. We must not shy away from that now, in this critical time.

Bev Harris
Black Box Voting (.ORG)
http://www.blackboxvoting.org

on edit, bookmark the following thread...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2602324

[hang a left]

1. Hell yah!!!!!!!!!

Let the shitstorm commeth.

[AzDar]

2. Now THAT"S what I'm talkin' 'bout!!! n/t

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

3. Remember Nixon

Even if pretzelboy is appointed king a second time, he can still be ousted. Of course, the makeup of congress is not in our favor, but i think there are plenty of non-neo republicans who would back an impeachment if enough solid evidence came out. Many of them were distancing themselves from bush even before the election.

[Booster]

8. Why wouldn't we believe that the votes for the people

newly elected to Congress, Republican of course, weren't also fraud?

[hang a left]

10. lets start at the top and work our way down.

What say you?

[Marnieworld]

4. Thank you sooooooooooooooo much Bev!

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

And I mean that. :D

[Vanje]

5. This might grow wheels. Heard about it on NPR today

I was only half listening. I dont even know what show it was. It was probaly on 'Talk of the Nation'.
But I definately heard "blackboxvoting.org" mentioned.

I hope the Kerry campain hasnt yet sent all its lawyers home.

[InvisibleTouch]

6. "Drop the idea that it's too late to correct this mess."

I hear you! By the time the iron-clad proof came out about the last stolen election (Gore won Florida), the usurpers were already entrenched, and couldn't be pried loose. We're way ahead of the game this time. Keep fighting!

[splat]

7. What has Kathy Dopp done -- sorry, out of the loop n/t

[LTRS]

15. Talking about this.... Kathy Dopp analysis at that link

Flordia ballots show huge (and I mean HUGE) numbers of DEMS supposedly voting for Bush in very Dem counties. The spreadsheet linked below has the data, and was done by someone else. But we checked it and it's true.

So, my partner spent hours crunching numbers last night and there is no doubt - they stole FL. Trust me, we are NOT the conspiracy theorist types, and even on Wed I posting here saying "take off the tin foil hat" to people who automatically assumed it was stolen.

But it was. It really was. Check here.

http://ustogether.org/Florida_Election.htm

That link shows the results compared to the registered dems and reps per county. And it shows that massive numbers of dems supposedly voted for Bush.

It's just not possible that 40 and 50% of registered dems voted for Bush, but ONLY in optical scan counties. For one thing, if it were true that they voted for Bush, why wouldn't the exit polls and endless number of pre-election polls have reflected a massive movement for Bush from Dems?

I don't know how to post a spreadsheet here, but here is a summary of how they did Florida:

Summary

-- In 13 of 15 touchscreen voting counties in Florida, Dems gained over what would be expected looking at just registration percentages –more than just Dems voted for Kerry in these counties

-- But in only 7 of 52 optical scanner voting counties (15%), Dems gained over what would be expected looking at registration percentages - this seems a little odd

-- In the touchscreen counties, the average gain was 8% over what you would expect based on Dem registration, including all 15 counties

--In the optical scanner counties, the average loss was 16.6% under what you would expect based on dem registration, including all 52 counties

-- If you apply the 8% average plus the expectations based on registration that was seen in the touchscreen counties to the optical scanner counties where we saw losses in the Dem column, it's a total of 281,143.

If you add this number to Kerry’s total, and subtract this number from Bush’s…

Method
Bush Votes
Kerry Votes

Subtotal
Touchscreen
1,845,876
1,982,210

Subtotal
Op-Scan-Precinct
1,950,213
1,445,675

Adjustment

-281,143
+281,143

Corrected Subtotal
Op-Scan-Precinct
1,668,730
1,727,158

Corrected Total
All Methods
3,514,606 - Bush
3,709,368 - Kerry

And guess what, when you correct, it matches the exit polls!

If we could get the paper ballots rescanned in Florida with machines that had been actually checked to make sure they was no fraud going on, you would see that Kerry very likely won this election.

[molly]

9. Yesssssss!!!!!

[gordianot]

11. A repressed American Male.

I hope this is true

I cried at friends funeral two months ago first time in more than 30 years for two solid days. I could do it again.

Have been hearing hints of this for the last two days.

[leftchick]

12. if you can please donate to the BBV cause....

cuz Democracy ain't cheap! :)

http://www.eservicescorp.com/form.aspx?fID=912

[Chicago Democrat]

13. I just donated...You should TOO!!

http://www.blackboxvoting.org/

GO BEV... GET LAWYERED UP

[gordianot]

17. From the hints I get that was the plan of action.

This organization may be the one. A smart counterbalance to the Swift-boat liars.

We all just need to know who is getting the information from the former Kerry campaign, and this needs to be a grassroots uprising. However I still need some convincing beyond computer messages.

I am ready to sell the farm and donate the proceeds if that is what it takes. The question is who is getting the information?????????

Who is really litigating??????


Also where is Michael Moore and his army of cameras?

[LTRS]

14. I hope you are right - now get it leaked to the press

[molly]

16. NO - I want to see *'s face when it is a DONE DEAL!

the whites of their eyes and all that.