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Rainbowreflect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:42 PM
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There has been a lot of discussion about religion
and it's connection to gay issues. I think our best response when anyone starts using religion as a reasoning for why we should or shouldn't have a law on an issue is to remind them that if we start to run our country by a religion it just might not be their religion.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:45 PM
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1. Read - No Longer a Christian
by Karen Horst Cobb on Common Dreams: http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1025-25.htm
The solutions to the social issues used to manipulate good, decent people have no resemblance to how Jesus responded to the social concerns of his time. He never once mentioned the “right to life” the year he was born King Herod ordered the execution of all babies. (Matthew 2:16). He knew that passing laws does not change the heart. As a follower of his teaching I believe in the right to life, including the children in Iraq who stumble onto land mines, cross the street at the wrong time, or who are snuggly tucked within the warm bellies of their wounded or grieving mothers as US fighter jets fly overhead. These are living, breathing children. The killing of these little ones are never even reported, and our tax dollars pay for these bombs. I believe in the right to life for those in the United States who are unwanted and impoversihed. I believe in the right to life of the naive kid who was promised by the recruiter they could choose a desk job and still get their education paid or could see the world or could accelerate their life or could play a very realistic video game from a cockpit.

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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 12:46 PM
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2. I always lean on that one...
OK, fine: no church / state separation. I choose catholicism as the state religion - how do you baptists feel about a state religion now... Or did you forget why your ancestors came over here 200 years ago...
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buckettgirl Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:02 PM
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5. no no, Paganism reigns supreme! Heathens and Witches Unite!
God and Goddess Bless us all!

lol

oh I love my sarcasm today
actually that would be like totally against my pagan values to say that. but i do like the sound of it none-the-less
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:15 PM
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8. Well, Paganism is the fastest growing religion in the States today.
:)
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buckettgirl Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:19 PM
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9. YYAAYY FOR US!
God and Goddess will prevail!
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buckettgirl Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:00 PM
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3. Actually, that would be a good laugh
i don't think that any righteous christian would know what to say to that. It seems that they don't think that there are other religions out there except christianity. If they do think there are other religions, then they must be evil because they aren't christian!
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PSU84 Donating Member (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:02 PM
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4. "Religion is the opiate of the masses" - Karl Marx
True then, true today.

Religion is the single greatest cause of conflict in the history of humanity. It may ultimately tear this nation apart.
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Rainbowreflect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:12 PM
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6. Sorry, I do not agree.
People are the greatest cause of conflict in the history of humanity. They just have often used religion to beat each other over the head.
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PSU84 Donating Member (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 01:15 PM
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7. Right. And guns don't kill people.
People kill people.
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buckettgirl Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 04:55 PM
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10. no they don't...
bullets kill people!! lol :silly:
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