we are the only hope left for the party

[pstokely]

if we organize now we will survive

[PATRICK]

1. A refreshing vacuum

No need to work in the system. Our potency is in thought and democratic action.

We are the rock and we are going through the glass window.

Let us do things light building real coalitions such as one that might begin a nationwide official recall petition of voting machines not subject to the machine vote itself because the whole abominable thing can be dissected in public. Why worry about confident voters when it does not matter, when the upcoming GOP supermajority has a clear road paved by the DNC? The fear is dead.

Spread the truth. Greens, Libertarians, web groups, as starters and ever more.

The net is the lightning strike for the first stage. We only want the vote saved. If you think this is still not THE big issue check out the ideology of lies at www.electionline.com. That is scarier than Bev Harris's www.blackboxvoting.com. The former is all the people get to hear.

Screw that. Bring it down.

[Fovea]

2. We already are to an extent in charge

The DNC would have really been lost
if it were not for groups like MoveOn, Truth Out, DU, AAR.

We provided money, message, and everything but a candidate.

So progressives need to walk, if needed away from the party that uses us, but does not respect us.

[Abelman]

3. If we walk away...

Where will we go?

[PATRICK]

4. Is it a place?

DNC headquarters and take it over? Too late for a special party. We are free of THAT challenge because the opportunity is irrelevant. So are the Greens irrelevant. No one has legitimacy. Neither do we even beyond momma's apron strings.

We need to coalesce around a direct assault on the voting system. The national news forums. Advance law suits against all the heads of the hydra until we find the one that can't reproduce. meanwhile lop of the computerized voting. Why not? There is nothing to lose that won't look paltry in a very short time.

Declare anarchy against illegitimate fraud voting. Libertarians would join until the freedom issue was hashed out. Any honest people, any ambitious little party would. Somebody besides blacks and white liberals need to strike at simple GD machine. That is simple enough.

Ally as party to know one, expect no top down support. petition the UN. They can't act of course. Put it on record. Swell the rolls. Keep it non-partisan, simple with no compromise or devilish complications. Whole parties like the Independence Party have made laughing stocks of themselves by making this type of revolt into a political entity.

Check out the Russian movie "War and Peace" where the actor/director as a prisoner on a death march within the doomed French Army retreating from Moscow is told he can't move outside the area. He laughs. "I am a free man." It a moving speech.

We are free of all that. We are enslaved. This is the day of the American revolution Part II. Of course we can lose. We almost lost last time except we were rescued from our bumbling amateurs by another stupid aristocracy. We are free to do what we want. LOL.

Seriously. Move ON fellows. That is where to start. Give them a clue.