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mermaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:01 PM
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Please, I Need Help
Don't hate me. don't tear into me. I am very scared, and feel very alone and frightened right now, becuase the fascists have gained control of this country for probably the forseeable future, and now, it look slike it is only going to get worse.

I gave my blood, my sweat, my tears, my heart, my sould, my money, my time and my effort into this election, and I got zip back for it. The asshole won. And it scares me.

I'm transgender. And don't try to tell me there are not fundamentalist zealots in this Administration that WOULDN'T build concentration camps, or just summarily execute all people like me...along with all GLB people...AND FEEL RIGHTEOUS ABOUT IT!

They would feel no remose, no shame, and no guilt for atrocities committed against enemies of their own choosing, because those people, with that mentality, consider people like me to be somehow less than human. They have that invader mentality. They truly feel no remorse or shame, or guilt for any atrocities committed against those they consider "sun-human" (i.e. all enemies of their choosing.)

The problem is...I don't feel like there are enough people in this country, with enough backbone to stand up and say NO to these people. to say, No you cannot do that to those people, it is NOT right!! I think most people would fear speaking out, for fear that my fate would become theirs...and so they would turn a blind eye to ANYTHING that was done to me...and a deaf ear to my screams of agony at whatever atrocities were committed against me.

I truly fear this. This isn't the 1950's and 1960's anymore. Back then, the African-Americans were the targets. People stood up and said NO...and their lot in life got better. I don't feel there are enough people left who are willing, anymore, to satnd up and say NO...now that it is me, and my GLBT brothers and sisters who are the target.

Which is why I say, "Give Me Some Hope, Or Give Me Some Rope!"
I can't go on feeling this way...fearing what may be done to me by zealots in our government who think they can get away with it...and fearing that not enough of my countrymen/women will stand up and say NO...to stop them from doing it.

I'm terribly scared for my future. I need hope. Lots of it. Please, please, please...help me. And please, Mods, don't delete this like you did to my last thread like this. No, I'm not going to actually do anything drastic here, don't get that idea (I suspect THAT is why the last thread got killed) I was coming apart worse when I wrote the first one...and was bone-weary from being up till late hours, etc. I hope this is more composed, and you take the time to read it and understand my fears...and that you can give me some badly needed hope.

I feel like I now have nothing left to live for...that I'm already dead. Because they are coming for me...the second they think they can get away with it, they are coming. what makes any of you believe that these people, who have sworn themselves enemies of people like me...will stop at a certain level of de-humanization...that they will stop with banning gay marriage...that they won't go further and further and further? Why not? No one in this country is left who has enough spine to say NO! At least that is how I see it.

so I need some folks out there to prove me wrong. I need to see some of those strong voices...and to hear that you won't let them do those things to me.

I'm so terrfied that we are becoming The Fourth Reich...and that this time, it'll be GLBT people instead of Jews and Gypsies.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:05 PM
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1. You are not alone
Plenty of people have concerns that are just as serious and scary as you do, even if they're not as drastic. None of us are going to allow them to destroy what our parents built for us.
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:06 PM
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2. It'll be okay.
Remember that 55,000,000 people in this country are for you. If things do get bad, see if you can move to a blue state.

And the Repukes will NOT have control for long. If the next four years are anything like the last four (and they will be a lot more drastic), Repukes will be toast for generations.

I remember in 1986/87, at the height of Iran/Contra, there was a spontaneous vote on some sort of talk show about if you'd vote for Reagan now if you knew about Oliver North, etc. The audience voted 98% NO!

NO President in modern times has had a good second term. And chimpy's obvious health problems, plus his increasing dementia, mean Rove et al is going to be occupied with more than politics.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:08 PM
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3. We started organizing for what is next at our Democracy for America
Edited on Wed Nov-03-04 11:09 PM by patrice
meeting tonight.

One of the things we talked about was how to be more proactively verbal on their issues. Stop playing to the middle, go ahead and be all out against their "values", showing them up for the money WORSHIPPING hypocrites they are.

We are not only taking our country back, we are taking our relgion back too. The only folks I recall Jesus judging outright were the Pharisees and money changers in the temple.

I'm reading Peter Singers book "The President of Good and Evil". They are SO completely wrong on all of the moral issues. We just need to be less concerned about alienating anyone, and since we're out of power here, there's nothing to loose, and everything to gain.

I know several local groups that are sticking together and becoming even more active.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:09 PM
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4. They will have to go through me first.
I'll be happy to go to jail, get beat on, whatever. I will do whatever I can to protect ALL OF US. I already have a plan to start grassroots action. My plan is in the service of EVERYONE.

It will be OK. Keep the faith. There are TONS of good folk out there. We're all in it together.

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Lancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:09 PM
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5. As our last sane President said,
I feel your pain. The midterm elections will provide a sea change. We have gone so far wrong the tide must reverse or we face civil war and anarchy. The millions who feel as you do will insure that will not happen.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:10 PM
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6. Not yet.
I have none of your issues and I'm terrified for MY future. I'm at an age where health care has to be accessible, but not old enough for Medicare. I'm competing for jobs with much younger people. And losing.

I'm frightened every day. BUT I'M NOT DEAD. THE FUTURE ISN'T HERE.

Until the air is totally polluted, there are still beautiful autumn days. There is still sun on the skin and showers with wonderful soap no matter what the gender.

When the world deserts you, take the comfort of your senses.

Take all the days you have day by day. They aren't coming yet. You could still get hit by a crosstown bus. Or a terror attack. Or the flu. There are lots of nearer disasters before they come for you. Or me.
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mermaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:14 PM
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10. The Problem Is
I am more scared of THEM...than I am of the crosstown bus, the flu, or any terrorist.

The crosstown bus could get anyone.
The terrorist just wants to get anyone American.

The zealots in our government SPECIFICALLY WANT TO GET ME, AND PEOPLE LIKE ME.

I am more scared of my own government now, than I am of any terrorist.
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baltodemvet Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:11 PM
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7. I won't pretend that there's no reaon to fear.
But there's no alternative to keep keep up the fight. Realize that you're not alone--we're all threatened. We owe it to each other to stand firm. We need to close ranks and at the same time extend out reach into America. We need your help in this.
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friesianrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:12 PM
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8. They'll have to get through me to get to you, my friend.
Me, and 50 million+ of my buddies. If they want this country, OUR COUNTRY, they'll have to pry it from our cold, dead hands.
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steely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:13 PM
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9. Hang in there - watch it all unfold - and stay in the fight.
I too am angry, and deeply sympathetic for the blood sweat and tears that those on the front lines gave, only to have this happen.

I guess we have to remain vigilant - and hopefully the regime will crumble from within, or until others wake the "F" up when they finally perceive how bad things really are.

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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:15 PM
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11. mermaid...
Please try to hold on. These times are very difficult but just look around. You`re not alone, not for a minute. Hang in there.
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KingChicken Donating Member (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:15 PM
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12. There was a time I almost took my own life
I've been to the same black pit of hopelessness before, but trust me it’s the place that gives meaning to the suffering. Being in a world that chooses to reject you is maddening, but remember that they are the ones who've come up short, who take comfort in hating others. As long as I’m alive I won't stop fighting for you and others who have been pushed aside because they don't fit. A truly integral society cannot afford to reject people selectively, everyone has a place. Please stay strong, stay with us, we will survive this together. Remember that time is on our side, the world continues to move towards acceptance and integration, not away from it, like America is doing at the moment.


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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:17 PM
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13. If it does come to that there are people who will die for you
Edited on Wed Nov-03-04 11:18 PM by meganmonkey
No matter how ugly it gets I would rather die than see that happen.

I never thought it would come to that but I'm beginning to wonder.

We will not let hatred own this country. No matter how bad it gets, we will fight it for the soul of america.

Please know that you are not alone.

edit for clarity
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mermaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:17 PM
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14. Thanks, Guys...and Gals
I only know that I would stand up and say NO...and to hear some of you doing it is therapeutic to me right now.

But I'm still very scared.

I'm scared OF MY OWN GOVERNMENT!! I NEVER thought the day would come when an American had to fear his/her OWN GOVERNMENT!!
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:18 PM
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15. Over the years, I've had dozens of GLBT friends.
And unlike the useless, no-balls Democratic Party, I would lay down my life to protect and save those wonderful human beings from the theocrats! :hug:
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:20 PM
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16. You are not alone, so many of us feel as you do.
Hang in there. We need to support each other in times like these and don't listen to anyone who tells you how to feel.

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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:25 PM
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17. We are all gay now
I'm straight, but today I felt the urge to wear some kind of rainbow symbol as a sign of unity. I saw someone with a shirt that said "marriage is a human right, not a special privilege." I don't know where they got it, but I'd wear it.

This year we had a candidate here for public office that was transgendered, she didn't win the primary, but at least she ran, and she made no apologies for who she was.

We're all at war now, we need gays to stand up for women's rights to birth control, people like me need to stand up for gay rights ... we've been running splintered special interest groups, and we need to start banding together and focusing on specific goals and throwing all our force at it, instead of small ineffective low level activity across the country, with no gains at all.

In Michigan, I never saw a single ad opposing proposition 2, the gay marriage ban. Not a single one. I don't know if they ran in other parts of the country, but looking back, we should have had a national strategy, forgone states where we knew it would pass, and thrown ourselves at the ones where we had a chance, so we could walk away able to claim that some states refused to endorse it, to give us some legitimacy.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:27 PM
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18. forgive me for not knowing all the details
but there was a transgendered woman running for her SECOND term for (sorry don't know office) in red ARIZONA of all places! Amanda (forgot last name, maybe Sulivan?) Granted its a basically liberal stronghold - Pima County, but it is an example of the possibilities that STILL exist even with these jerks in power. Also the story of Dallas TEXAS, yes TEXAS!!! new sheriff!

Sorry I don't have all the details of her campain, I'm in a different county. Try to work on your fear - they feed off it. Lots of us are on your side. 55 some million people see through the smoke. You are not alone.
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