Clarkies and EX-Clarkies Check In....

[deminflorida]

Are we going to take this shit???

Now is not the time to join the Democratic Firing Squad that is sure to begin...

The Party raised more money and gathered more support than anytime in my life.

As of about 30 minutes ago we are leaderless now...

I for one, would be proud to fall in behind the General in order to take this country back...

Who wants to come along???

[UCLA Dem]

1. I was always in.

[Patiod]

57. He was my guy from the first time I heard him speak

Even though I threw in 100% behind Kerry later (canvassing, worked the polls, etc.).

I'd support him again - it's not like Dean, where I loved the guy, but didn't think he'd inspire folks of all stripes across the country.

My only concern was the Right's attempt to "swift-boat" him in that article in the New Yorker. It was lies and distortions, but we all know how carefull the electorate analyzes all that.

[Bucky]

135. I'd like to suggest we collectively do a road trip to Little Rock in June

Is that something we all can plan? Is it possible that a pilgrimmage to Clark's home en masse could convince him to saddle back up? If not in another run for president, at least to give props to the man for all his continuing hard work trying to save this country from insanity.

Who's game?

[PROGRESSIVE1]

2. I do! If you have read my posts...

you will see that I am NOT attacking the Democratic Party!

I am going after *, the Right Wing Rural South, Fundies, and the Media!!!

I want Wesley Clark in 2008.

Maybe we could give him Mark Warner or Russ Feingold as VP!

[sadiesworld]

3. Clarkie here.

Not sure where you're going with this though. :shrug:

on edit: I'm in if we're doing something about the election or about moving the party to the left. (IMO, Clark was pretty far left)

[Bonobo]

4. I've been waiting for this thread.

I truly believe Wes would have trounced the monkey-king. Furthermore, I trust the man. I want to know what Wes is saying about this. I will follow his lead.

[Bad Thoughts]

107. Hey

How is it going?

[Bad Thoughts]

108. Yo

The general always has my support.

[Qanisqineq]

5. Clarkie here

but right now I am just too tired to fight. I have a major health problem and can't do it right now.

[Abelman]

6. I'm in

I'm behind the General.

[Rowdyboy]

7. You can count me in

[americanwomanone]

8. I Have Always Been With the General, not quitting now! n/t

[mountainvue]

9. Checking in.

Let me know what we need to do.

[truebrit71]

10. I'm here...

The General is the one the rethuglicans feared the most..they WANTED Kerry...

Time for us to take action...

Re-Draft Clark '08

[Paradise]

11. once a clarkie, always a clarkie! here! n/t

[Kber]

12. Been in from the beginning

what did you have in mind?

[placton]

13. reporting for duty

[tedoll78]

14. Yup.

I am now convinced that Clark would be a good bet for 2008.

A Southern General from Arkansas?

Arkansas was pretty close this time around; with more effort, we can pull it over to us. Then add Gore states and New Hampshire. 270.

[KittyWampus]

15. Hey There! And The Circular Firing Squad Isn't For Me

now that we know Kerry conceded, I can't fight anyone other than the Insane Right.

[Kat45]

16. Reporting for duty.

I thought he was the best in the primaries; still think he is.

[deminflorida]

17. I think the WESPAC organization is still up....

We can make inroads starting soon for the General....

Effort, time and a Draft Movement....I'll bet you the General is up for it....

Maybe we can find some common ground with the Dean people....

[lukasahero]

18. I will do whatever he asks of me

But I also don't see any sense or reason to think he'd necessarily have fared much better this time around. Maybe he would, maybe he wouldn't - we'll never know and it only hurts our friends and colleagues who really believed in Kerry and Edwards to suggest otherwise. shrub and his machine are scum and half of the Amerikan people are idiots.

But yes, bring on the General in 2008!

[Avalux]

19. Here

Was a Clarkie from the very early draft days and I still am. :hi:

[deminflorida]

20. We got to get the Clark Meetups going again.....

I'll be happy to get going here in Pensacola.... We've got to schedule a meeting first thing next month.....

If each of you can start a meetup in your respective cities...then start gathering signatures and points of contacts.

We'll get a database started of contacts. The fight starts now....

[winga222]

21. You bet I'm in

I hate BushCo, will not tolerate Jebbo in '08 and will work night and day to see the back end of all the bastards. Wes is fantastic and this time we define our candidate before they define him/her for us. Kerry is a good, good man and did not deserve the knifing they gave him.

[deminflorida]

33. As far a Kerry goes....and this is from a Retired Military Member..

It wasn't Kerry that turned his back on his brothers it was a certain group of Neo-Con Ex-Military fanatics that turned their backs on all of us.

It will be those traitors that we will rise above in 2008. They stuck a knife in Kerry's back really good. But, this will not be the end of their story...

As the names of soldiers continue to come streaming in from Iraq, as Veterans continue to lose their benefits, we will ensure that the names of the Swift Boat Veterans for Lies will be posted in every VFW and American Legion lodge in this country.

We have to fall in behind the General, because he is the only one that can tell the bastards to their faces what traitors THEY ARE.

[Crunchy Frog]

22. I'm totally with you!

The General is the only leader I have right now. I just hope that he is willing to accept that role.

[elcondor]

23. Clarkie here!

We most certainly NEED a leader of the party right NOW. My hopes are with the General

[coeur_de_lion]

24. I am so there

[DoveTurnedHawk]

25. Checking In

I'm in for another $2,000 and tons of hours if he throws his hat in the ring in 2008!

DTH

[henslee]

26. Scrappy Wes has always been my man -- he rocked on Bill Maher last Sun.

[goclark]

27. Clarkie here reporting for Duty, this is a war

and we need our General to fight this war!

We are fighting the terrorists that killed our Ballot Boxes!

[Bombtrack]

28. The most important thing is try and push Clark between now and 2008

to embrace voter security initiatives. To get a dialogue going in this country where people are not afraid to examine the possibility that both 2002 and 2004 could have been stolen and that there is evidence that can't be ignored until it's irrelevant to even look at it anymore. Because that's what's going to happen if we put these concerns out of our head the same way I know I did after 2002. I think Clark is the best candidate of any who ran this year or any who didn't who some people thought should have (including Gore, Hillary Clinton, who I have absolutely no like for etc)

but we need to get him to get on this thing now and in a major way. No more lip service to this issue. I want to make it as big a thing well before the 2002 election as environmental issues or the anti-war movement or almost anything.

[goclark]

110. Cheers for Your Thoughts

That is why we need to get activated.
We need to put the War To Stop The Vote Count!

We a;so should be a training ground to learn how to find our own areas of interest for leadership in the future.

I believe that should be an important thrust for the General.

He needs to help train his officers to make political foot prints for the next generation,

As a clarkie I met so many talented,creative political junkies.
I miss the discussions that we had and the "like minds."
In other words there are football fans and there are Politics Fans.
We are addicted to politics and making a difference.

[Adelante]

29. I am with the General, no question

But, frankly, this isn't the day for me to commit to any action regarding the Democratic Party, for which I have been a loyal soldier for 35 years. They were supposed to be ready this time. They were supposed to fight this time. Today I'd happily shoot every last one of them, beginning with John Kerry and John Edwards. So there you have it, since you asked.

Yet ... for General Clark, anything I can do. If he wants Clark08, I'm there.

[Auntie Bush]

105. Hi WesDem...glad to see you here.

Miss you and all our Clark conversations. I especially like the thread where we were all swooning over Clark and posting our favorite pictures. Hope you're doing well.

[Auntie Bush]

106. Hi WesDem...glad to see you here.

Miss you and all our Clark conversations. I especially like the thread where we were all swooning over Clark and posting our favorite pictures. Hope you're doing well.

[H2O Man]

30. Yep

I always liked Clark the best of the democrats in the primaries. I've sent numerous contributions to WesPAC.

[noonwitch]

31. I voted for Clark in the caucus-I'd vote for him again. Clark/Dean 2008!

He and Dean might make for a good ticket. Dean gets the young motivated, Clark understands military issues and both understand foreign policy.

[Abelman]

32. Andrew Jackson

Some say the first Democrat. He won because he had a base formed of the common man. It would actually be quite fitting if another General were the one to help re-energize the party.

Howard Dean: DNC chair

Wesley Clark: Candidate for President, 2008

Us: The people.

[BootinUp]

52. Thats a great vision man.

[Kukesa]

34. Permission to come aboard, Sir. n/t

[BootinUp]

44. I love that line.

Hope you don't mind if I use it too.

[ribrepin]

35. Yeah, General Clark was my first choice

But I was happy to support Kerry. I'm so dispirited right now.

[DemExpat]

36. DemEx a Clarkie too!

n/t

[allemand]

37. Reporting for duty.

It was thanks to General Clark that I discovered DU, like many other Clarkies here, I think.

I need something to hope for. Clark in '08.

[dennis4868]

38. i never left!

LETS TAKE BACK OUR DEMOCRACY!

[democratreformed]

39. Clarkie here

Reporting for duty. I WILL NOT now, or ever, join the circular firing squad. I will continue to fight for our party.

[RandomUser]

40. Still around n/t

[exJW]

41. I'm always eager to hear the General's direction. Just lead the way sir!

[tishaLA]

42. It's time for us Clarkies to get to work.

We have lots of talented candidates and I won't sow the seeds of dissension. We need to be resolute, strong, and focused.

[Toucano]

43. I'm here for the General.

But I don't think that's what he wants.

No draft though. You have to want it BAD, I think.

[deminflorida]

45. The support is growing...

I have to do a better job at supporting this forum as well...maybe if all of us can come out of pockets about ten bucks a month, Skinner and these guys at DU will let us organize like we've done in the past here among fellow democrats and other progressives.

DU Can Be Our Vehicle....submit your ideas and support!!!

We've got to the youth vote more involved as well....it's their futures at stake here. A draft would be devastating to-wards a whole generation of young Americans.

Why they didn't turn out in force, has me in shock right now.

[Abelman]

48. What We Need

Is a Draft Clark '08 site, or something akin to it if we decide not to. We need a place to talk about our efforts to draft him, if we really decide to try.

I will state right now that I will do everything I can to support the general. But I don't know a thing about webprogramming at all.

We also must make sure we stay focussed on 2006, with the senators running.

http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm?Class=1

And the Reps.

[deminflorida]

53. I know a little about Web-Setup that's no problem.....

Will start with a new site tonight....

General Clark has his own Forgein Policy, WESPAC site but your right we need a central site to start a national draft effort. We can Blog on it and link here to DU as well.

[Abelman]

55. the domain

"draft-clark.com" is ready for purchase. How do people do donations and stuff?

I will do anything can to support a Draft Clark effort. That includes ponying up some cash to start the webpage and send out letters to Democrats.

[deminflorida]

59. Working on the Domain Now....

Thanks...

[young_at_heart]

46. Clarkie from the beginning......he has what it takes

[BlueStateGirl]

47. I'm in. I hope the General keeps fighting the good fight.

[Toucano]

49. My GOD I just had the worst deja-vu

It was like February when the General withdrew. I think I'm wearing the same sweater I was wearing that day. And I'm on DU.

Gross and freaky!

[deminflorida]

56. Everyone Email...

[e-mail]

Tell the General we need leadership....Tell him the battle begins now and we are behind him...

[Adelante]

68. Done

:hi:

[devinsgram]

50. Count me in.

[grasswire]

51. I'm in.

He was my first choice.

[Abelman]

54. Soooo

The domain name "Draft-Clark" is available to buy. Who has servers and such for us? Who can program?

[deminflorida]

58. Working on it NOW!!!

n/t

[joanski01]

62. Does this mean I can get out

my Clark sweatshirt, T-Shirt, and cap?

[deminflorida]

69. O.K. I purchased the Draft-Clark Domain....

I'm working on a starter web-site now.....

[deminflorida]

70. Somebody Volunteer to PM and get everyones...

Email and Locations...

We need a list of contacts.....

Phone numbers are not necessary but but email and city locations....


We have to get the Meetups started....

[Abelman]

76. Awesome

Also:

I don't think we should be all about Clark '08, though that should be the main focus.

I envision a grassroots movement to revitalize the Democratic Party and establish stronger leadership throughout it. We need to stand by the General's slogan: "A higher standard of leadership." We need to ensure that our leaders are held accountable for their actions, that they are looking for the true best interest of the American people, both now and in the future. We need to take a stand and say "good enough" is NOT good enough, not when the future of this country is at stake.

We have senators to elect in '06. Until then, Clark '08 should be the secondary focus. Though, I will work very hard to convince him to run.

[sparrowhawk]

60. Here!

God be with you, General Clark, whatever you decide to do.

[Nimble_Idea]

61. YES I AM IN!!

BRING BACK CLARK!! heh

[Gemini Cat]

63. Yes!

That's right!
I'm in and reporting for duty.

[dryan]

64. When is reville?

[deminflorida]

72. Reville was few hours Ago!!!!

We're on the March.....

[dryan]

65. When is reville?

[loudestchick]

66. Oh Yeah!!!

Liz in Missouri reporting for duty!!! We follow the old man!!!

[tedoll78]

67. Why am I not surprised at the response to this thread?

:)

I'm actually smiling a bit at this. It's nice.

[teevee99]

78. this time, we won't have everyone here accusing clark of being Repub

I worked my ass off for him in the primary and will gladly do it again!

[high density]

71. I'm here

Still kind of shocked.

[Abelman]

73. Oh, I'm so kicking

Kick.

[malletgirl02]

74. Yes

Clark 2008. I really like clark to run, hopefully he won't be too old.

[deminflorida]

75. I have the domain, I'm working on a website as a starter....

Submit your ideas and PM each other...where there's smoke there will be fire....

We have to start now....so get the ideas flowing....


Email [e-mail]

tell General Clark we need him to run!!!

[DancingBear]

77. Right here - and ready

If there was ever a time for Wes Clark it is right now.

As I type this I am looking at the group of "Clark'04" yard signs that I've kept.

Just say the word, General - I'm here.

[Abelman]

79. Address

WesPAC
PO Box 3276
Little Rock, AR 72203

the email address is above.

Write. Letters. Now.

[annabanana]

80. I'll do what the General wants....n/t

[Bride of Cthulhu]

81. Gen. Clark was my guy from the start.

n/t

[ajacobson]

82. Signing in

n/t

[wellstone dem]

83. I'm in

[T Bone]

84. Clark raised $$ for Republicans as recently as 2002

That is EXACTLY WHY he is not VIABLE as a DEMOCRAT. Let him run in the party he has raised the most money for, the GOP.

[truebrit71]

85. Go and rain on someone else's parade....

..okay arsehole? The most recent VIABLE DEMOCRAT lost..or haven't you been paying attention...??

[KittyWampus]

93. Thanks For Outing Yourself

[Auntie Bush]

109. Do you know what you are talking about?

Go home to Freeperland" where you belong. Haven't you been listening to anything he's been saying?

[Crunchy Frog]

114. Enjoy peeing in other people's threads?

I can't believe we have to go over this same crap again. He was a paid speaker at one single small Republican fundraiser at a time when both paries were courting him. Afterwards, he did the same thing for a Democratic fundraiser.

Since he dropped out of the presidential race, he has raised boatloads of money for the Democratic party and individual Democratic candidates.

So yes, do let him run in the party he's raised the most money for, which would be the Democratic party.

[incapsulated]

122. Fuck off and die

You scumsucking asshole. I'm done with swallowing this shit from losers like you.

Burn in hell.

I hope you get assfucked by dead republicans there, too.

[Tom Rinaldo]

123. Very well spoken. I fully agree. n/t

[Kahuna]

126. Whatever!

:eyes:

[Piltdown13]

86. I'm in, too!

:-)

[ignatius 2]

87. I am right there with you. I know I sound like sour grapes, but I think

General Clark as Vp on the ticket could have made a hell of a difference.

I truly grew to admire Kerry for his intelligence, passion and even for his seriousness. John Edwards on the other hand seemed rather lackluster. Maybe I am just feeling bitchy because I am feeling a gut wrenching sadness this evening.

[Progressive420]

88. ALL CLARKIES SEND ME YOUR E-MAIL So we can get a contact List

going

[Bread and Circus]

89. Uh...I was a major Clarkie....what the hell r u talking about?

Is he leading something?

[LittleClarkie]

90. Ahem, check out the nick,

You know I'm with you.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

91. Delegate for Clark checking in

General Clark soldiered on for the party after he was no longer seeking nomination. He's an example we all should follow.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

92. I'd be in. And I'd go to war with and for JK also.

[robbedvoter]

94. Wearing my Draft Clark button today

I an here

[Abelman]

138. I want a button!

nt

[AmerDem]

95. as one of the first Clark supports, Clark wants out

of politics the last I heard.After what he went thru during the primaries ( from both sides) and the effort he put into helping Kerry, the man deserve a rest to do what he wanted to do for so long, make money to start a charitable fund in much the same way Soros has done.

[HoosierClarkie]

103. He and his family did go through a lot.

:hi:

[MinnesotaMike31]

133. Ex-Clarkie Staffer checking in!

[Progressive420]

96. Ok guys I have one reply sned me your contact info PLZ!!!!

It starts tonight!!!

[MoonRiver]

97. Here, goddamnit.

I still love the General. His call is the ONLY one I will answer now.

[madmax]

98. How did I miss this thread!!

I'm in for Clark.

[Nashyra]

116. MadMax

Ruben and I are in too. While driving General Clark to the airport the other day he said it was the most heartbreaking thing he ever had to do, leave the race. Said the DNC closed ranks. I'm in in in in. In fact I have an article to send him about me winning my school board race. My local paper did an article about him inspiring patriotism. Plz i hope he will get in again.

[Progressive420]

99. KICK!

[cjbuchanan]

100. Clark for Arkansas Governor in 2006!!!

Anybody with me?

[HoosierClarkie]

101. Still here!

:hi:

[Mz Pip]

102. I'm still here

not much energy left at this point, but give me some time and I will get going again.

MzPip
:dem:

[laruemtt]

104. he's still the one who can put a smile on my face :=)

[Renew Deal]

111. I love Clark but...

I don't think he wants to do politics anymore. Also we should find some new people on the presidential level.

[Tom Rinaldo]

127. Two things

If he really doesn't want to do it again, of course I would respect that, but part of making that decision is knowing how much interest there is in him, and knowing how much support he could count on.

As for "New People", how much of a disposable culture have we become? Clark wasn't even a politician and barely on the national stage prior to the draft movement, how "new" does someone have to be? Many Americans were pleasantly surprised to hear Clark on TV as a Kerry surrogate. Few knew much about him. Clark is not "stale".

[Abelman]

139. The main deal

He may want to work in the private sector, but there is no way he would ignore a large movement to draft him again. He cares about the voice of the American people.

And, y'know, there's the whole Andrew Jackson parallels.

[SaintLouisBlues]

112. I was in on the first draft, and I'm ready for another

Let's hope the General goes for it.

[Auntie Bush]

113. I'm here reporting for duty. But I hate the thoughts of

putting Wes and his family though all that pain again. I really felt their pain when he dropped out. I really think he'd like to go home and enjoy life as a private citizen. Someone ought to find out if he and Gert would like to do this before we ask him to come to the aid of his country again.

[Abelman]

140. He'll do it

If we ask him to.

Andrew Jackson didn't want to run for president. The people's voice convinced him to.

[chaska]

115. Checking in.

[Nashyra]

117. I agree with the other poster about Gov for Arkansa

That would be the best way.

[Jane Austin]

118. I sure do!

n/t

[wellstone_democrat]

119. Yeah and time to get my Clark avatar back on I think

[javadu]

120. Count Me In!!!!! n/t

[incapsulated]

121. Yeah, I'm here but...

I'm not a re-draft Clark, Clarkie. Sorry.

First, one man isn't going to save us from the four years of hell coming down on us, four years from now. And our "Party" is fucked. He chose one hell of a time to join.

Second, I don't know if he wants this and wouldn't blame him if he didn't.

Third, we haven't even heard from him yet.

He was the best, Wes. But from everything I've heard from him, he really is concerned with finally making some money and enjoying his life in the private sector. If he choses to do anything beyond his WesPAC thing, he has my support, of course.

A numb and depressed Clarkie

[Tom Rinaldo]

124. Sorry to check in late

Just figured out that the Forums had subdivided and my screen was set on the "fighting" one (duh). I am still fully on board for helping Wes accomplish whatever he can to help save our country, in whatever way he chooses, though my preference is another run for President, this time starting early. Now I will go back and actually read this thread lol.

[LTR]

125. I'm here

Question is, I don't think this country deserves someone like Clark. And I'm not sure if he wants to put himself through this shit.

My early support is toward drafting my senator, Russ Feingold. He showed that you can have convictions, communicate them effectively, and campaign and behave like a true gentleman.

[in_cog_ni_to]

128. ME!

Clark leads? I will follow! :hi:

[Jai4WKC08]

129. Count me in

Where the General leads, I'll follow.

[Crunchy Frog]

130. A message from Wes.

This was just posted to the Clark blog. It doesn't really concern what we're talking about here, but I thought it might be of interest anyway. It definitely sounds like he at least wants to stay engaged in politics at some level.



To all those who worked so hard and cared so much,

Thanks for all you've done. You gave me a voice and you amplified it far beyond anything I could have expected. I am so grateful for all your support, contributions, letters, visits, emails, and continuing commitment. And for all your determination to help our country into the future.

I think we did make a difference, and I think the country and the party are better for all we did together.

But we didn't win.

Today is a sad occasion for all who believe in our vision of America. Like so many of you, I worked hard for John Kerry. Over the last few days, like so many, I believed the polls that showed John Kerry winning. And I believed John would be a good president. Thank you for supporting him. I very much regret that he won't be there in the White House for us.

Much will be written about this election. People will analyze the nominees, their platforms, and the processes. There'll be detailed looks at the electorate. I'm sure our party will look hard at itself, its ideas, policies, and approaches.

We'll likely be very tough on ourselves and each other -- but I hope not too tough. We want to strengthen our party and our ability to compete in the next election and the one after that. So we need to show each other some appreciation, too, to keep it all in perspective.

I'll be listening to their views -- and to yours. It will take time, effort, and honesty to sort out the lessons. But I hope you'll be there as we do so. And participate. I look forward to reading your ideas and hearing from you in the coming days.

As for me, well, I'm continuing with efforts in the private sector. But I haven't lost my love for this country nor concern for her welfare. That's why, through WesPAC, I'll continue to speak out and fight for the issues we care about and the values we stand for.

Thanks again for standing beside me over the many months. We've got a lot left to do, so stick with me in the weeks and months ahead!

Sincerely,

Wes

[Progressive420]

131. Ok guys Im still trying to get a contact list if your interested I ve only

gotten 6 replies so far!

[Crunchy Frog]

132. You should be able to contact anybody here

by clicking on either the email icon or the PM icons. If you are unfamiliar with how those work, I can explain them to you. Please just go ahead and PM this whole list.

[Bucky]

134. I will ALWAYS be a Wes Clark Democrat.

As soon as our sigfiles return, you will see my ongoing declaration that I am a Wes Clark Democrat. It's not a fad, it's love at first sight. He remains our best hope for 2008.

[Abelman]

137. Damn Straight

Hopefully, deminflorida gets the website up soon.

[Gloria]

136. Sign me up! Clark was my guy....when I saw him just this past Saturday

here in NM, he was brilliant! He talked about THREE STRIKES, YOU'RE OUT as he ticked off all the crap Bush has done. It was a great rhetorical display...wanna reach dumbies? Talk this way. And yet, within that framework, his comments weren't "dumb"--they were forceful, clear, and stirred us all.

[Kosmos Mariner]

141. Clarkie here!

Reporting for duty, Sir! Let's kick some NeoCon ass!


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