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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:46 AM
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12 things we can do in the coming weeks, months, and years
Edited on Wed Nov-03-04 12:10 PM by wildflower
DUers,

Like many of you, I desperately want to just get out of this country. I just can't believe what's happened. My life, and those of many others, is on the line in so many ways.

But I finally came to the conclusion that it wouldn't be fair to the liberals still here; it would make for a harder and harder fight for them, the fewer their numbers got. I will stay as long as I can and do what I can.

So instead, I've come up with a list of things we can do. It's the only thing I can think of to do right now. (Please add to it if you think of other things.)

1. Cancel cable and *explain to your subscriber exactly why.* (Or throw out your TV.) Also contact those stations that are the reason you are canceling, and tell them why you canceled.

2. Boycott corporations, *especially* those who support this administration and those who own the RW media.

3. Write and call your congressman every day if necessary, when it comes to policies.

4. Write letters to foreign newspapers and explain that this is *not* what we wanted. It's often been said that up until this point, the world has been sympathetic to our plight, but that if Bush were elected fairly this time around, we would lose their goodwill.

5. Remember that there are still many ongoing investigations into this administration.

6. We know this administration has done and will do all in its power to dismantle important causes. So, if possible, "go over their heads" by going into a career or starting a business that advances
progressive causes.

7. Also go over their heads by donating to/volunteer for causes that matter, especially environmental and humanitarian ones, because we know these situations will only get worse.

Help the poor, disabled, homeless, elderly, abused children and wives, Planned Parenthood, the ACLU, GBLT causes, relief work (for those suffering in other countries), and the environment in any way you can (and spread the word).

8. Speak out loudly and often and nonviolently protest.

9. Help advance the creation of more liberal think tanks. As George Lakoff has said, the RW had 40 years to organize and reframe the language of the culture.

10. Help advance liberal media. The media is the way it is, so we have to create and promote our own. And as we've seen, there's definitely an appetite out there for it.

11. When it comes to Supreme Court appointeees, go into overdrive on
the speaking out and writing/calling. Not just calling your congressmen and the media - but talk to and distribute flyers to everyone you can about what's at stake, urging them to call their congressmen as well.

12. Distribute this list to as many people as you can. (Rewrite for clarity if necessary; I wrote it on the fly.)

EDITED TO ADD one from IrateCitizen:

"Continue to be involved or get involved in groups that are committed simply to getting people together to talk about issues -- like Democracy for America. Don't lose out on the grassroots momentum started by the Dean campaign."

Anything I forgot? Or other creative ideas?

-wildflower

P.S. And take time to talk, to grieve, with people who care as much as you do, like those here at DU.

P.P.S. And see the quote from Gandhi in my sig.

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(Typing in my new sig line because it's not showing up right now:): )

"Whenever I despair, I remember that the way of truth and love has always won. There may be tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they may seem invincible, but in the end, they always fail. Think of it: always." - Gandhi

"Just one, one, one...So you begin...I begin. I picked up one person - maybe if I didn't pick up that person I wouldn't have picked up 42,000...Just begin...one, one, one." - Mother Theresa
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budkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:49 AM
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1. Great post!!!
I'm not leaving. I'm going to fight for this country!!!
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:57 AM
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4. Thanks, and I'm glad to hear it. One more thing I should have added:
It is absolutely still worthwhile to make all the noise we can - and gather and save all the evidence we can- about election fraud, discrepancy between exit polls and election results, discrepancy among exit polls themselves, voter suppression, and electronic voting.

-wildflower
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LisaLynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:55 AM
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2. Great post!
I'm staying here, too, and fighting. Another thing we need to do is figure out what is really going on with that supposed 51% that voted for *. I think we have a skewed view of them. Some of them, I think, do agree with us on a lot of things. I think they agree with a lot of progressive ideals. But, they are being kept firmly in the Republican voting bloc. Why? Who are these people? How do we get them to wake up?
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:27 PM
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14. I heard - can anyone verify - that the biggest voting issue...
Edited on Wed Nov-03-04 12:33 PM by wildflower
turned out to be "moral values." I.e. gay marriage and abortion. (Can anyone verify this?)

So the Republicans successfully got as many churchgoing people as they could whipped up about these issues, esp. at rallies run in a cult-like manner, to the extent that it obliterated all else. And at the same time, they, through negative portrayals, convinced people that Kerry was not a man of faith or strong convictions.

If I'm wrong on what I heard on this let me know.

EDITED to say I heard this could be seen in the fact that all 11 (state-level) anti-gay-marriage laws passed, as well as the parental notification law in Florida.

-wildflower
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Corgigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:56 AM
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3. I'm also staying
but did request a relocation to New Jersey. I got kids so I have to move into a blue state before the fundies start using their power to pester us more then they do now.
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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:58 AM
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5. Good post! I'd offer up the following idea as well...
Continue to be involved or get involved in groups that are committed simply to getting people together to talk about issues -- like Democracy for America. Don't lose out on the grassroots momentum started by the Dean campaign.
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:09 PM
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9. Good idea...I'll see if I can edit my post to add it. n/t
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:59 AM
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6. Ditto...this fight has just begun...
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:07 PM
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7. Yes, every Sunday a group of us needs to protest these
fundie churches when people are coming out of services. We need to have brochures that explain what real Christianity is and which Churches are practicing true Christianity. (There are a few in my area that are liberal in nature.)

In my case the biggest offending Church is across the road from the Post Office. Protesters could stand on the Post Office side of the sidewalk and they will be seen in full view of the members leaving services. Since the Post Office is public property, I don't think they can shoo us off.

As an atheist, I would love to convert people to rational atheism, but I know that religious people need something to cling to, so I think promoting a church with the right ideas is the way to go.
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:29 PM
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15. Yes, I know there's Unitarian Universalism...
and also Liberal Quakers. Any others? I'm not that familiar with religious denominations.

-wildflower
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:21 PM
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22. Some Episcopalian and Lutheran churches nt
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:33 PM
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26. some Presbyterians are decent
You have to attend the church and get a feel for it.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:08 PM
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8. great post
much thanks!
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:12 PM
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10. Fantastic post1
This is some of what I have been trying to say all morning. Bushco is afraid of the truth. We have to put the truth out there every day. They will try to run from it. Keep them on the defensive. There are so many allegations out there right now. Find the truth. Demand answers. Some of the truth is very ugly, we must face it and fling it back at them. The truth is our cause. Impeachment NOW. It can be done. Don't say or think it can't. It can. We had an uphill battle with Nixon, and he shot himself in the foot. They always do. The only thing the liar is afraid of is the truth - and they are terrified of it. They will trip on it.

Thanks again for this post!
I can hardly read it through my tears, we must cry - then we must get back up and go seek the truth.

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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:22 PM
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13. Thanks, deminks and everyone. Ideas about health care?
I'm trying to figure out a way to "go over their heads" (as I put it in the first post above) when it comes to health care.

What can we do? This is a very serious issue for me and other people I know and have known.

-wildflower

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"Whenever I despair, I remember that the way of truth and love has always won. There may be tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they may seem invincible, but in the end, they always fail. Think of it: always." - Gandhi

"Just one, one, one...So you begin...I begin. I picked up one person - maybe if I didn't pick up that person I wouldn't have picked up 42,000...Just begin...one, one, one." - Mother Theresa
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Ranec Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:30 PM
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17. Work at the state level.
Many times political solutions worked out at state levels that are successful spread.

Blue states should demonstrate to the rest of the country what is possible.

Thanks for your posts. I am motivated to contribute now more than ever.

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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:18 PM
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11. Tithe to the ACLU
Since all three branches will be in greater control of the dark side, these people need every cent you can spare.

They are our last line of defense at this point; Otherwise, enjoy your governmentally-chosen/funded religion while you are pregnant with your 5 mandatory child for the freedom effort (read: War) against the pagan brown-people...

My check is in the mail now.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:18 PM
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12. Foster more separate businesses, ala FUBU
Working Assets, etc.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:29 PM
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16. Get involved in local organizations -
Edited on Wed Nov-03-04 12:30 PM by merh
Those of you in the blue states, you are not safe, they will be coming to infiltrate your states and to take them over.

The GOP gets its members to join and to lead the Chambers of Commerce, the Rotary Clubs, the Knights of Columbus, et cetera.

Get involved in your churches, in your local organizations and politics.

Their grass roots effort is effective because their members fill the minds of their fellow members with fear and promises of riches.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:49 PM
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18. An addition to no.5 --
Work on impeaching Bush.

And before anyone starts yammering about how it's a Republican congress, even REPUBLICANS can be made to do the right thing. Just do it, forge full-speed ahead and make it happen.

I think there's a website called ImpeachBush.org -- or something. I'll try to find it.
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:08 PM
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19. Thanks! And regarding what people will say about RW congress...
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:47 PM
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28. I'll Sign My Name Under Eloriel's
X
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absolutezero Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:12 PM
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20. fight for 06
congress isnt an absolute pub majority yet, we need to go to the rural states and get them to vote for democrats
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cmf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:17 PM
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21. Awesome Post!!! I've been saying similar things!
Especially #9 and #10. This has been long in the making. We should have woken up after 1994, but we didn't. We put too much faith in the hope that America will just wake up and that common sense will prevail. It won't happen. We have to frame the debate. We have to control the discussion. We have to go on the offensive in the battle over people's minds. I'm not guaranteeing that it will work, but we cannot win if we don't try.
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:42 PM
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27. Maybe we should put this together with other similar threads...
and make up a comprehensive and specific list to be posted on DU somewhere? Will Pitt started a good thread too (I think it's in the other GD forum).

What do you say, everyone? And mods?

-wildflower
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:24 PM
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23. Very good post and good advice!
Thank you for posting this.

Remember, at least half the country voted to get rid of this administration, and we are a powerful force.

Please DUers, don't waste time and energy snarling at one another and fellow Democrats. Grieve and then get back to work.
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AmandaRuth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:26 PM
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24. AMEN Sister
one more thing - get involved in your LOCAL dem group - even if you think that the DNC is part of the problem - change comes from the local level, you can make it what you want , Iratecitizen speaks the truth
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:31 PM
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25. as far as volunteering...
...I think we need to be very, very careful about where we volunteer our money and help. In a nation where jobs are at a premium, I am going to wonder aloud how much we should be doing for free unless it is for our party and our people, and no religious extremists or hatriots can get their hands on our efforts.

I am no longer willing to, say, attend the spaghetti dinner for the little girl down the street with brain cancer who doesn't have health insurance if her parents are GOP. They created this situation and this reality, and then they expect us to all dig in and help out, when I've been ill and these people wouldn't flip me a quarter.

We have an enemy in our midst that would deny basic freedoms to women, gays, blacks, etc. I am no longer willing to lift even one tiny finger to help a member of the enemy group. Look, I have neighbors who have Bush/Cheney signs on their lawns, and I have seen the businesses in the areas with those signs. People like that, businesses like that...I don't care if they are "the people." I'm the people too, and I'm not going to work with them.

Why should I contribute money to the disease of the week, only to learn that any research money is just helping the pharmaceutical companies save money, not getting cheap medicine to the people?

Too many people are donating to diseases, frankly, so that rich people could have cures the rest of us can't afford.

If this sounds cold, so be it. It's what I'm thinking right now.

Yes, I'll help an animal. I'll help the environment. But to work for "cures" that will only be affordable for other people or to drive the nice old fascist lady to church...no, don't think so.

I'm saying let us be very, very choosy about where we contribute. Many in this society don't even want us to exist, so why should we be breaking our backs to contribute to their ease? We don't have to hug everybody. It's OK to be divided from evil people. I don't want to unite with evil.

OK, sorry about the rant.

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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:05 PM
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29. Thanks. Printed it and passing it out!
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:10 PM
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30. Start Freedom Ride 2004
Just like we did in the 60's for voting rights, we need to send young folks into the South, in an organization that marries Rainbow Push, DFA, and NAACP and send out mini-teams to do town halls, visit churches, etc.
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:52 PM
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31. Regarding #10 (the media), see this thread by Dems Will Win:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x16099#16262

From the original post:

<<The election was stolen because the Dems have NO real MEDIA!

A fair media reporting all the horrors of the Bush Administration from Plame to Tora Bora to Jobs and Healthcare and we would have won those 136,000 votes in Ohio and much much more.

The Dems can only fight with one hand tied behind their back.

We need to buy up or compete with all the small-town newspapers, radio and TV stations in Ohio, New Mexico, Iowa, Arkansas, Tennessee, etc.

Then we need more AAR and several Cable News Channels. And While we're at it, Soros should buy up controlling interest in ABC or Viacom and run that as well.

And we might as well start our own USA Today type newspaper for the whole country.

Then let's see what happens when the Dems have two arms instead of one.>>

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x16099#16262
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 10:36 AM
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32. Something I should have added to this: electronic voting.
Maybe the electronic voting issue should go with the items about the media and contacting congressmen.

If enough people are aware of the facts on this, and enough congressmen thus pressured, we might have hope of effecting a real change.

-wildflower
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