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placton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:18 AM
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What to do now - FIGHT!
Well, we took it where the sun don't shine. Here's what we can do for the future:

1. give up on the idea we can ever win in the South. Yeah, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, blah blah blah. Carter would NEVER win today. Clinton won the first time with 43% of the vote - and a big thanks to Ross Perot. The South is a pest hole of bigots, with pockets of good and decent people of both parties.

2. give up on the idea we need to "move to the center" - Gee, that idea has worked well since 1994, hasn't it? Plenty has been written about the fact that the US will pick real Repukes over Dem Repuke-wannabees - and it's all correct. We need to move more left - remember Kerry, though not a liberal, was perceived as one, and did OK.

3. concentrate our strength: spend money on moving people and jobs to swing states, where we have a chance. Encourage, with money, a second black migration out of an area that will lynch and burn and discriminate. There are several states where moving liberals in could change things dramatically - Ohio being one such example, Colorado another.

4. totally embrace the Greens - they did their part this time around, and we need to show them we love them. Besides, most of their ideas will have wide appeal

5. hammer on the fact that all the problems that are gonna develop are the TOTALLY the fault of the Republicans. Dems need to spend the next years "on message" about that

6. BOYCOTT! We need to make sure we do not go to conservative cities for conventions, for example. I belong to several groups who do hold conventions, and plan to be quite vocal about this. We need to support liberal retailers over Wal-Mart.

7. Speak up in church. It is now, apparently, OK to use houses of worship as political centers, ala the Roman Catholic church. I go to church, and now plan to approach my minister and others about, at least indirectly, getting out the message.

8. Set up liberal think tanks, to right editorials. The MACKINAC CENTER in Michigan is a right wing editorial mill, never id'd by the papers where their spew appears as such. I plan to work to set up counter-institutions in my home state.

9. In short, everything we do must now be political - we cannot let only one side take advantage of churches, the media, etc. The Repukes' Rules have been OK'd by the boobouisie, so let's play by them too.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:20 AM
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1. Number 8 is a key one
Conservatives nurture their young ideologues; ours our left on their own. Now the weblog phenomenon has helped some--but we need to concentrate on new ways to get our ideas out there. We need to continue documenting the lies of the Media and of the Conservatives.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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eternalburn Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:34 AM
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2. Agreed..... BLACK RIBBON BOYCOTT !!!
BOYCOTT and hit Bushco in the wallet for all it's worth. It's all those people truely understand.


Turn off the cable news channels, don't give them your ratings.

Carpool as much as possible. Get rid of the gas guzzlers or at least park 'em for the long haul.

Don't buy what you don't absolutely need.

Don't frequent businesses that support this corruption.




It won't be easy but how easy will the next four years be anyway if this fraud continues?

We tried doing things the old way and got scammed again. Now it's time to stand up and really be counted !

I am angry as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore.

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Nicky Scarfo Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:35 AM
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3. Boycotts don't work, it's time for general strike if people have the guts.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:43 AM
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7. They don't
Not enough to the point that it would work, anyway.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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greyfox Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:35 AM
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4. The Greens
Yes, I have joined with them.
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:37 AM
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5. Time for the DLC to take a walk. n/t
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LisaLynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:42 AM
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6. Woo hoo! Nov. 3rd and we already have a plan!
And some really great ideas. We need the think tanks -- I agree -- and smart people (we have a TON of those) who can spend their time refuting the Repug spin. The Repugs have the power right now -- they're going to drive the country towards the ground (hopefully we can pull up before we hit) and we need to make sure everybody knows it's their policies that are doing it. If they get everything they want, then they are the ones to blame for what's going to happen! If we can get that message out, I think we are going to be able to move this country towards the left, and thus the future!

I am honestly willing to do whatever I can. I don't have a lot of money, but I can write and I can think and I know right from wrong.
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placton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:52 AM
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8. shameless kick n/t
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:08 AM
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9. Here's a plan for fighting NOW
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