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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:36 AM
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I'm sick of you people that want to give up!
Edited on Wed Nov-03-04 04:42 AM by Gothic_Sponge
I've been reading posts from people saying "i'm done with politics." WTF? I know this is frustrating, but don't give up! Even in the end if Kerry concedes, don't give up! The repugs are hoping we just go to sleep like the rest of the sheeple! They are counting on it!

I will not sleep! I will FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!

On Edit: I don't mean sleep as in going to bed. I mean tuning out politics! A sleeping soldier can't win a war.
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:37 AM
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1. maybe those that have not given up have gone to bed
nt
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:37 AM
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2. I'm fighting.
Fighting for my life. I can't do anything but fight.
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B. P. R. D. Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:38 AM
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3. Sleep Tonight, Fight Tommorrow.
That is what I am trying to do but it is not working.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:38 AM
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4. I will sleep - and wake up ready to fight!
I've been awake 40 of the last 48 hrs. I must re-energize.
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LTRS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:43 AM
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5. Um, we need some dems with spines
or ourgiving up or not giving up is pretty much irrelevant. Dems voted for tax cuts that caused massive deficits, Iraq war, NCLB, patriot act, and black box voting without a paper trail. They don't have our backs, even though we have given them our all time after time.

Done with politics too.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:48 AM
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6. there is no way there are that many ignorant people in America
NO F***ING WAY
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gpandas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:29 AM
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10. believe it, sister, or brother. ignorance is manifest in u.s,a.
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DaveofCali Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 04:51 AM
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7. WE MUST NEVER FORGIVE NOR FORGET
WHAT THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION HAS DONE TO THIS COUNTRY AND THE WORLD IN THE PAST 4 YEARS BECAUSE WE LOST A FIGHT TO GET EVERY BALLOT COUNTED IN ELECTION 2000

WE MUST NOT GIVE UP FOR THE SAKE OF OUR NATION!!!
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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 07:48 AM
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8. Amen!
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:27 AM
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9. Guns are blowing around here
not happy ones. Someone's taking it out on some powder.

We have only just begun. This nation was built on hope and principles that cannot change. Don't abandon it for lies and deception.
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midnight armadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:30 AM
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11. A new Senate minority leader
We need a new Senate minority leader who breathes fire and shits lightning! The Dems MUST filibuster everything that comes through the chamber. Obstruct, delay, and obfuscate every bill. The radical extreme agenda must not be passed!!
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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:33 AM
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12. Don't Mourn, Organize
http://www.dailykos.com/

OK. I read thousands of comments and dozens of Diaries last night and this morning. And you know something? I’m going to forget I read most of them. Just erase them from memory along with the names of those who posted them. Chalk them up to adrenaline crashes, too much rage and reefer and booze.

Because what I found in my reading was a plethora of bashing Christians, bashing Kerry, bashing gays, bashing Edwards, bashing Kos, bashing America and bashing each other. As well as a lot of people saying they’re abandoning the Democrats, abandoning politics, abandoning the country. This descent into despair and irrationality and surrender puts icing on the Republican victory cake.

Why were we in this fight in the first place? Because terrible leaders are doing terrible things to our country and calling this wonderful. Because radical reactionaries are trying to impose their imperialist schemes on whoever they wish and calling this just. Because amoral oligarchs are determined to enhance their slice of the economic pie and calling this the natural order. Because flag-wrapped ideologues want to chop up civil liberties and call this security. Because myopians are in charge of America’s future.

We lost on 11/2. Came in second place in a crucial battle whose damage may still be felt decades from now. The despicable record of our foes makes our defeat good reason for disappointment and fear. Even without a mandate over the past four years, they have behaved ruthlessly at home and abroad, failing to listen to objections even from members of their own party. With the mandate of a 3.6-million vote margin, one can only imagine how far their arrogance will take them in their efforts to dismantle 70 years of social legislation and 50+ years of diplomacy.

Still, Tuesday was only one round in the struggle. It’s only the end if we let it be. I am not speaking solely of challenging the votes in Ohio or elsewhere – indeed, I think even successful challenges are unlikely to change the ultimate outcome, which is not to say I don’t think the Democrats should make the attempt. And I’m not just talking about evaluating in depth what went wrong, then building on what was started in the Dean campaign to reinvigorate the grassroots of the Democratic Party, although I also think we must do that. I’m talking about the broader political realm, the realm outside of electoral politics that has always pushed America to live up to its best ideals and overcome its most grotesque contradictions.

Not a few people have spoken in the past few hours about an Americanist authoritarianism emerging out of the country’s current leadership. I think that’s not far-fetched. Fighting this requires that we stick together, not bashing each other, not fleeing or hiding or yielding to the temptation of behaving as if “what’s the use?”

It’s tough on the psyche to be beaten.Throughout our country’s history, abolitionists, suffragists, union organizers, anti-racists, antiwarriors, civil libertarians, feminists and gay rights activists have challenged the majority of Americans to take off their blinders. Each succeeded one way or another, but not overnight, and certainly not without serious setbacks.

After a decent interval of licking our wounds and pondering what might have been and where we went wrong, we need to spit out our despair and return – united - to battling those who have for the moment outmaneuvered us. Otherwise, we might just as well lie down in the street and let them flatten us with their schemes.
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gpandas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:51 AM
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13. "these are the times that try men's souls"
great post, "i have not yet begun to fight", "i intend to fight it out on this line until the end of"... my life, "never give up the ship", good will triumph over evil, "we have nothing to fear but fear itself", "ask not what your country...". nearly half of our citizens agree with us, it is time to double our efforts!
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TryingToWarnYou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:55 AM
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15. Well said.
I agree. Never, ever give up or give in.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:18 AM
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17. And here are some people already organizing - check it out
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:53 AM
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14. I will never stop fighting but I think that the fundies should suffer
for their moral votes...

I want them to take the rope they were given by the electorate and have them hang themselves with it.
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Batgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:09 AM
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16. Kick for post #12
For saying what I need to hear.

I took the day off yesterday to do phone banking at the local K/E headquarters and sat across from an elderly woman. She spent a couple of hours GOTV, even though she was hooked up to a large canister of oxygen.

From her condition, she must not have been making that effort on her own personal behalf. She probably won't live long enough to be affected that much by 4 more years of Bushco (if it comes to that).

She was great on the phone by the way. The people she called likely had no clue as to her frail state.

Guess they just don't make 'em like that anymore. My political awareness, and (embarrassingly moderate) activism has only been going on since 2000. In which case I can't go around feeling like I just built the fucking pyramids and then the big bad wolf blew them over.

The image of Oxygen-tank woman forbids self pity and defeatism, damn her.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:21 AM
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18. Wow, what a story
Thanks for posting it, and thanks to both of you for your work. Whew! Brings tears to my eyes.

It breaks my heart that so many on DU are so willing to just throw in the towel so early.
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