US Troops are sitting ducks-reinforce or pull them out now!

[Q]

- For the love of God! How long will our nation allow the Bush* government to go on pretending as if they know what they're doing in Iraq?

- American soldiers are being put unnecessarily in harm's way so Bush* can act the role of 'commander in chief' and brag about it on campaign stops.

- The "Bush* Doctrine" is not working. Either more troops are needed or a better battle plan that protects them from being picked off one by one.

- Protect the troops or send them more help. This needless slaughter of Americans and Iraqis must end.

[Jacobin]

1. More troops equals more targets.

This is a giant clusterf**k.

This will be on Smirk's head (and the Dems in congress who enabled this crazed idiocy).

I can't think of a good solution. Pull out now and an islamic fundamentalist regime will take hold immediately. Hold elections, and the same will happen. Install a puppet dictator (like the last one we installed named Saddam) and we have a new brutal dictator.

Take your pick. Geopolitically there is NO good answer.

In spite of all the denials, this IS Vietnam, only far far worse because the oil supplies we are dependent upon (and had free access to through markets under Saddam) are at severe risk.

Alternative energy programs anyone? Why the hell aren't we pursuing that like we did the Apollo program???

[wtmusic]

3. No good answer but...

There is a best answer. Don't know what it is.

I have to say in the short term we need some help in there. Invite the UN before it's too late...maybe with some non-Americans around the Iraqis will back off.

[okieinpain]

17. you're absolutely correct, more troops, more targets, and more

chances that one of our guy's will do something really stupid, like rape one of the iraqi's and really push this thing over the top. the only thing to do is get them out, and turn it over to the UN. but of course we will have to pay for that, and we won't be able to control that oil either.

[mopaul]

2. sniper fodder, bring em' on....don't be a wimp! freedom ain't free y'know

i'm starting to think you may not be patriotic enough Q. to even question our fine president's integrity and morality of purpose singles you out for re-education.

[Q]

4. Just wondering how many troops will be 'allowed' to be killed...

...before this nation wakes the hell up?

- Those of us who remember the Vietnam era see a lot more hurt coming if we don't act now.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

5. It'll probably take a round number that the sheeple can understand.

Like 1,000. Let's hope it doesn't come to that.

[catmandu57]

6. things are sure messed up

w* doesn't know what to do, kkkarl is shitting his pants, we're stuck big time. They don't want to send more troops because more people will scream vietnam, so instead we lose soldier after soldier, until the force there is so weak all it takes is one good push to get rid of it. We're so f***ed, w* has broken the whole thing, and noone is going to be able to fix it.
Either we have an islamic regime, or we have saddam back, but an american puppett will never work.

[caledesi]

18. Good one freddie. eom

[bowens43]

7. The Iraqis hate Americans , can we blame them?

After helping Saddam to attain and keep power , after actively supporting BOTH sides in the Iran - Iraq war, after helping saddam produce and use chemical weapons, after encouraging Saddam's attack on Kuwait and the following war, after 10 years of enforcing sanctions, after 10 years of no fly zones, after lies and distortions were used to justify the US invasion , occupation and pillaging of Iraq , after calling the invasion 'liberation' and then denying the Iraqis self rule, they have had all they can stand of americans. They will continue to defend their homeland against the invaders. More soldiers will not make a difference. These attacks will intensify.

[mopaul]

11. very astute!

exactly, we supply more weapons of mass bla bla to the world than anyone, and we claim to be a peace loving nation. WE created the frankenstein monster saddam, we supplied him with his w.m.d.'s, THAT'S why we knew he had them. daddybush let him escape and called it a great military victory and said 'by gosh, we kicked that viet nam syndrome once and for all!'...i remember him saying it.

the soldiers are just numbers, statistics of no historical import in the end.

[annagull]

8. Smirk boy should get on his knees and beg the UN

to help us out. But these greedy bastards don't want to share all that delicious oil with anybody else, and it's more important to punish France than to save our soldiers, anyway.

[Gringo]

9. Damn, does that thread title have deja vu or what?

I found myself singing that old "19" song this morning - instead of "Vietnam, S-s-saigon" it was Vietnam, B-b-baghdad.

[Melsky]

10. Time for a remake

I love that song, I think it is by Paul Hardcastle.

[NNN0LHI]

12. Where we gonna get these reinforcements?

The well is dry Q. These guys need some rest. What happens if we get into a real war where our national security is in jeopardy and we need these troops? Better look at all of the angles here. There is only two ways out of this Iraq mess. Leave now, or leave later. That is it. There are your options. Take your pick.

Don

[Q]

13. Granted...the options are few...

...but the very least we should do as a nation is to get the troops out of harm's way UNTIL a better plan is drawn.

- It should be obvious by now that the Bushies have no plans beyond what we've already seen. There is no was to 'justify' these deaths in an illegal and unprovoked invasion.

[southernfried]

14. the real problem is having them be 'the cops'

what they need are Iraqi's to be the cops.

And the reason that they are the cops is the stupid looting that the locals decided to do which got everyone in a tizzy.

[annagull]

16. You might want to consider lack of electricity, water

in 115 degree heat. Hell, the lights went out in NYC one summer for 3 days and it was chaos--looting, murders, fires. And they had the NYPD. This is what happens. The Bushistas should have known this, but this proves they are idealogical idiots.

[RevolutionStartsNow]

15. How many is too many?

This is so awful, it's out of control. How are they possibly spinning this in their favor? Or is Iraq so "five minutes ago" and Liberia the new story? Ugh.

Where's the outrage?