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RebelYell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 08:58 AM
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Karl Schwarz a Fraud?
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“Karl W. B. Schwarz lives in Little Rock, Ark., and is the author of "One-Way Ticket to Crawford, Texas, a Conservative Republican Speaks Out." He is the President and Chief Executive Office of Patmos Nanotechnologies, LLC and I-nets Security Systems, a designer of intelligence and UAV systems.” Ah ha! I figured out the reason for the missing reference to Patmos Nanotechnologies. It must be a subsidiary of I-nets Security Systems. My fingers danced over to Teoma and Google. Inets.com is an ISP.

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Well, now in the same period, the entrepreneurial Karl Schwarz is also CEO of Global Axxess AND Patmos Nanotechnolgies. My fingers typed Global Axxess into the search engines and – viola! – nothing but a shell company.

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I searched a little more and found Karl Schwarz’s name as CEO of COMMAXXESS/COMMAXX (domain now for sale, Mr. Schwarz’s attorney is the contact person on the domain registration.), a company designed to take over the bankrupt Global Crossing back in 2003. Mr. Schwarz encouraged shareholders and employees “to endorse Global Axxess in their bid to take ownership of Global Crossing. You can read some of the comments to the FCC here.

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http://karmakat.typepad.com/picasso_dreams/2004/10/karl_schwarz_an.html








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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 09:00 AM
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1. He answered this on the Kerry Board
WHY would you post something like this? I'm convinced Karl Schwarz is our last great hope and I don't appreciate any smearing of this man.
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RebelYell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 09:03 AM
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2. There's alot of background on him at the link
Just something to think about.
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 09:06 AM
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3. I don't give a damn
he said he's been a lifelong Republican, worked for Bush Sr.'s re-election campaign, etc.

There's a lot of background on the Bush's. This is way counterproductive. I want to see and hear from the man. The only man with the stones big enough and the money and influence behind him to get the truth out there.
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RebelYell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 09:08 AM
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5. I want to know everything there is to know about him
I don't subscribe to blind faith.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 09:07 AM
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4. 'Our last great hope' ?
I thought WE were our 'last great hope'.
The power belongs to US, not to one man with a whole lotta money.

If it is indeed the case that people are placing their hopes on one person, we're screwed because there will always be one man with a whole lotta money and an agenda ... and it may not be for the common good.

:shrug:


:hippie:
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 09:11 AM
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6. WE can't seem to get anything done
Edited on Wed Oct-20-04 09:12 AM by TNOE
WE - a large group of everyday ordinary citizens have been reseraching and trying to get the truth out about 9/11 for 3 1/2 years - with very little progress. Without money and the media in this current environment, we're blowing against the wind.

We've only got 2 weeks people - because after this administration gets in for another 4 years (by theft more than likely) its all over. The clamps are going to come down and our freedoms are going to be gone.


Editing to add - I'm not going to support this thread any longer - I hope it sees an early death.
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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 09:28 AM
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7. Please buy my book
His last plea at the Kerry site is over the top. Issuing PR is easy on the Net. This could have been set up a long time ago - if so, it's great Internet theatre.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 09:33 AM
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9. I appreciate the stand he's taken, at least he is not worshipping
at the Bush/Cheney throne.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 09:32 AM
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8. Okay so maybe you could give some answers to the questions
he asked. I don't care if he is a fraud. He asked questions I would like to know the answers to. If asking questions makes someone a fraud then I guess all of DU is a fraud as well. Do you suggest the questions are not worthy?
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 09:35 AM
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10. he refused to answer any questions that I have posed to him
he sounds like he is a fraud to me...I asked him specifically what PATMOS did or held. He mentioned that PATMOS holds patents but refused to mention which patents...there is no reason for this. Something is up...

theProdigal
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 01:29 PM
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15. I reposted your questions on the new thread, ProdigalJunkMail.
We'll see if he gets around to this before the election. He said he would write an article before the election that would have people in DC commit suicide and since it's only two weeks away, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. But after November 2, I'll take away that benefit!
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 04:54 PM
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16. cool...thanks
would like to know where this guy is coming from...

theProdigal
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 09:38 AM
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11. I would like an answer to this question - Karl's friend: Tapirlover

Thanks BHN

Has been a DU member since January 12, 2004.
Huh?
What took you so long to post?
How come you posted as if you had just
joined us when Karl showed up?
Thanks for the heads up RandomKoolZip.
Like I said, it was REALLY good internet theater!
And it was fun to have hope...but somehow,
I really doubt the report will surface.

Thanks for the entertainment though!
BHN


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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 10:07 AM
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12. Still no explanation on that...
Karl sent me links to the site selling his book
and his new OnlineJournal post this morning.
I wrote to him to thank him for giving us hope;
as we know, Karl wrote to us that he had a story
that would blow the top off of the rat nest in
DC. That the story he was breaking would send them
scurrying on both sides of the aisle.
I don't think the new article at Online is going to do that.
I think Karl is legitimate as far as his research and
reporting. I also think he is who he says he is as
far as a conservative Christian Republican CEO
who is sick and tired of the machinations in our
Government. I find his letter of demand to be a succinct
and accurate list of the questions we have been asking
here all along. I hope he continues to join our
discussions, because I enjoy his thoughts and
the way he expresses himself. He right on so many points
and his observations of of the criminals are certainly
sympatico with ours.
As far as the timing of his appearance here at DU
and the Kerry board in relation to the release of his
book? Well, that is fine with me too, why would he not
want to sell his book? I am sure it is a good one having
read what he has shared thus far from it.

What little I understand of nanotech, it sounds as
if he is on to something that could revolutionize aspects
of our world today. I hope so; lord knows we need it.

I will continue to hope that he can and will release
evidence that will finally bring the madness to an end
and reveal the thugs in a way that all Amercians
will be outraged by to finally wake from their stupor.

Karl, if you are still visiting the board,
I wish you well and hope you will indeed
accomplish what you have assured us you can.
Your new Onlinejournal article is excellent;
you are an extremely good writer- however,
I don't think that this is the article that will send the
rats fleeing.
I will read your book and look forward to it.

BHN
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 11:34 AM
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14. Tapirlover has replied:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=2512031&mesg_id=2516161&page=

Over at the "New Karl Schwarz Thread" here in DU.
She has a mighty fine blog "SimonSays" that she
has shared a few posts after the link above on that thread.
One of the entries there does mention the sex scandal
that Karl has hinted at. IF Sible Edmunds testimony is
unearthed and revealed along with HARD evidence
linking the BFEE in a pedophile ring, then there is hope.
I will continue to hope because I really can't take the
feeling anymore that there is none.
Frankly, I don't care if Karl is a janitor at the local
Pick and Save- IF he can break a story to bring the
Empire down, he will be my hero forever.
He certainly knows how to flame the internet, so who knows?
Maybe he will pull it off.
BHN
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 11:03 AM
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13. I did a lot of checking, too, and posted what I found
in the thread at http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2512031 . My message is #62 there, a reply to #43. I can't say definitively that he isn't the high-powered CEO and GOP insider he says he is, but what I found (and didn't find) convinces me that we shouldn't just take him at his word. Not on something this important.

And it doesn't matter if some of the things he's saying are in agreement with what we believe. The credibility of various charges made against Bushco will be damaged if one of the loudest spokespeople for those accusations isn't what he claims to be.

In the main thread about this on the Kerry board, he just announced he's the "leader of the movement." He's the self-proclaimed leader of a self-proclaimed movement, and we'll all look very foolish if he's given too much credence on these boards. And the administrators on the Kerry board are already acting to limit the discussion of his letter and book there, apparently trying to keep it in one thread.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:20 PM
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17. The Kerry discussion forum thread on Karl Schwarz was removed.
Not archived, as far as I can tell, simply deleted -- all 35 pages and 500+ messages of it.

I don't know whether the final straw there was Mr. Schwarz announcing that he's "the leader of The Movement," or if there were simply too many unanswered questions about his background and book.
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:23 PM
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18. No
I signed up and logged on to see it also - a decision was made that thought it best to lay low on this for now. You can google Karl Schwarz and see the post.
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