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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 12:09 PM
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O'Really's accuser should release a tape, start a real frenzy.
Edited on Fri Oct-15-04 12:12 PM by spotbird
Preferably a tape that can at least partially be played on the evening news. It would suck at least one news cycle. Now O'Really is tainting the jury pool with his martyr-for-conservatism act. The spin would really fly in the other direction if just one tape were released. O'Really would then have to shut-up, that's right, SHUT-UP. He deserves the humiliation, he is a pig and should have just shut-up during the Monica years.

How do we let the plaintiff know that she needs to adopt a new strategy?

Is taping conversations legal in New York if only one party knows about it?
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 12:12 PM
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1. A horrible idea
That's just what we need: yet another diversion into gossip.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 12:15 PM
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2. As things stand now he controls the spin.
It would bring him down if she could offer indisputable evidence to her claims.
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cosmicone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 12:17 PM
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3. Bad idea
It is better for O'Lie-ly to keep lying and denying. His fall will be that much greater when the tapes are played in court.

Also, taping a conversation without the knowledge of the other party is against the law -- it may get the plaintiff in trouble.

I think their strategy is to make O'Lie-ly deny it under oath and then bring the tapes in as rebuttal evidence where the rules of what can come in are more relaxed and don't require prior disclosure.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 12:24 PM
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5. Taping without knowledge is a state law issue.
It may not be illegal in New York.

O'Reilly isn't going to deny it under oath when there is a strong probability of getting caught, these people are cowards. He'll settle or otherwise obstruct deposition, if her case is dismissed he wouldn't even be deposed.

Naw, if the tapes were legal she should get one out there to shut him up once and for all.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 12:24 PM
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6. I'm not sure that taping a conversation is illegal.
It's against the law gor a third party to tape a conversation without a court order, but taping your OWN conversation is a different matter. Of course, that may differ from state to state, and there's a good chance that I'm misunderstanding the legalities of it. Got a link?
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cosmicone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 12:40 PM
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9. I think that
one has to notify the party that you are taping the conversation - either expressly "some calls may be monitored or recorded" or with a beep that goes on every 15 seconds or so.

I believe the rules for face-to-face conversation recording are governed by state law but telephone conversation recording is governed by the FCC. I may be wrong - I am not a lawyer :P
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dogtag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 12:21 PM
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4. The $60 million figure sounds like something Fallafel Bill
dreamed up. BIll is not saying that he never made those statements, is he? He is pretty sure that they do have tapes and is trying to divert the attention by squacking about the money she supposedly requested.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 12:25 PM
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7. Exactly.
His denials have all been nondenial denials. "This is the most evil experience of my life." "They are liberals out to get me." "I'm a victim."
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Eumenides Donating Member (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 12:28 PM
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8. On the Today
show (sign, I know I know but my wife like that program) they were interviewing different people regarding this case and two points came up.
1. O'Reilly has never denied that the allegations were false, i.e. he's a complete boor and likes to talk trash to people.
2. The lawsuit or whatever is so explicit in what it states he said that it's pretty much a given she recorded conversations.
What I found most interesting was one of the talking heads said, "Can you imagine what will happen when Howard Stern gets ahold of that tape?"
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Pragmatique Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 12:43 PM
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10. What could possibly be on the tape...
that we don't already know? Will we learn that O'Really is a creepy misogynistic ego driven pig? We already know that without the tape, so let's keep our focus on dumping Bush.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 02:28 PM
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13. Hi Pragmatique!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 12:49 PM
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11. Let's not suggest something that may taint a potential jury
I don't want this thrown out because of over exposure. Bide our time and let it come out in court. O'Reilly will go down if there are indeed tapes. Let's not get anxious and spoil it.
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 01:05 PM
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12. I don't know about now, but when they do get released I hope instead
of a beep for the xxx words, they use a Dill dO'Reilly soundbit of him saying "SHUT UP!".

LIke this;
I'll be behind you and rub your "SHUT UP!" and then I'll grab the falafel thing and rub it on your "SHUT UP!".
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alexisfree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-04 02:31 PM
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14. is this the October surprise?
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