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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 02:05 PM
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Democratic gov cuts govt worker pay. Freepers bitch. My head hurts.
OK, first of all, aren't freepers supposed to be for smaller govt? Don't they continually whine about lazy govt bureaucrats and waste and mismanagement? And second, why are any freepers working for this same despised govt? Damn, I wanna post on this thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/972874/posts

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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 02:08 PM
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1. They are automatons. Brownshirts. Orwell's "1984" types
Doublethink has been purposefully inculcated in them...Goebbels v2.0

(NEW AND IMPROVED with TWICE the subtletly of the ORIGINAL Goebbels Brand)

War is Peace
Slavery is Freedom
Ignorance is Strength

John Wilkes Booth was the First Freeper
The Missouri Border Ruffians were the First Poll Freepers.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 02:52 PM
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3. LMFAO
"John Wilkes Booth was the first FReeper"

Great line.
May I steal it?
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userdave2061 Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 06:32 PM
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6. Wouldn't the people thumbing their noses at England be the first freepers?
Looking back it was them that started this whole God Bless America thing.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 07:24 PM
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8. Hi userdave2061!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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userdave2061 Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 09:00 PM
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10. Hi and thanks!
If there's at least 99 of you it has to be a good sign! :-)
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 11:50 PM
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13. You've gotta be kidding me...
This one's easy to debunk.

If one considers that liberal/conservative (or in the current case Everybody Else/Busheviks) is an evolving set of positions, but embracing similar thinking groups of people we can see...

(rest assured liberalism has plenty of excesses as well, which is why the Founding Fathers wrote the Constitution to balance passions into moderation)

1960s Liberals-Civil Rights, Voting Rights, Environment; Conservatives-Lynchings, Segregation, The Right to Pollute

1930s Conservatives--Forming American Nazi Support Groups (look it up) Prescott Bush helps finance Hitler's money laundering operations using Union Banking Corp. Oh, and let's not forget the Smedley Butler Coup of 1936 (look it up--it is a fact recently declassified during the Last Days of the Old Republic), where Republicans tried to coup d'etat FDR and were stopped because Gen Butler, a famous war hero, turned the bastards in. For the good of the country/economy. FDR classified it until the millenium.
Liberals--Unionization (which has had it's excesses, for sure), FDRs economic policies and massive domestic infrastructure achievements such as Rural Electrification and the Dams Projects.
1860s Conservative--The Confederacy, and if you doubt it, just look at the Red vs. Blue map today. Is there a single Blue Confederate State there? And the Union at the time, not quite the same...you Confederates have made your inroads.
Liberal--Abolitionsists (think of how Rush would've ridiculed William Lloyd Garrison and told Frederick Douglass to "take that bone out of his nose")

You following me so far? (if you're a Fair and Balanced kind of guy, you are no doubt looking for the place far enough back in time to blur the historical lines and swap historical positions)

The Big One

1776 Liberals--Those whacky Founding Fathers with their pinko ideas about giving common people rights when nothing but brutal medeval aristcrocies
Conservative--Preserve the Monarchy, stick with what we have, back to the past and Old Fashioned Values

Let's go just a little further back in Europe:

16th Century Conservatives--Witch burnings, good old fashioned religion, people knew their place, if ya know what I mean.
Liberals--Burnt at the stake, no "liberal" dared express questions or sympathy or reason, lest the eye of the Puritans and others would fall upon them. Galileo, that elitist intellectual liberal, is threatened by Church for expressing his scientific findings that the Earth isn't the center of the Universe. Perhaps that's something like what Ashcroft yearns for.

13th-15th Century Conesrvatives--Inquisitions sweep Europe, Conservatives enjoy "one-party" rule. Really the same as the witch trials but a different muderous justification. You can bet your ass there weren't any marble statues with a tit hangin' out like that statue that Ashcroft dressed properly.

So there, my Fair and Balanced friend, is the short synopsis of why you are wrong wrong WRONG.

Care to reply? Try to stay on message. No ad hominems. Stick to the issue. And kindly don't bring up Clinton's penis.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 11:18 PM
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12. Sure, ComerPerro, take it.
:thumbsup:
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 02:46 PM
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2. Okay, so -
They want to recall her if she raises taxes, but they don't want government spending cut.

And the dudes who normally hate unions cuz they tend to be democrat and ask for too much money, now forget that they hated the unions before, but now hate them instead because they sucked up to the democrat when she was running for governor and instead of pushing for more money, are allowing pay cuts.

Just want to make sure I have their agenda down, because it confuses me no end.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 02:56 PM
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4. No one has it both ways like FReepers
And the fucked up Bush Administration.

Look at the Gray Davis complaints.

They hate how he handled the energy crisis. They want him to build more power plants while cutting taxes and cutting spending while still funding education and corporations.


The only reason they love Bush is because he can run up huge deficits. That way, he can fund what they want (Christian churches and war) while still cutting taxes for the very rich.

But don't they hate Bush for screwing federal employees out of their pay raise?
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 06:06 PM
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5. On the nose
You nailed it - the repukes love their deficit spending so that they can less money but spend more. And they say they're the "family values" party, when all they're doing is living high on the hog so that their children and grandchildren can pay the bills. Oh sure - that's really "taking personal responsibility" and "loving your children" isn't it?
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 09:06 PM
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11. Sounds like...
"leave it to the child behind." :freak:
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 05:07 PM
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14. Yes, leave it to the child behind!
I love it!

Good talking point for whoever runs for Dem - "This asshole said 'leave no child behind' when it's obvious what he really meant, if he were capable of human coherent speech, which he isn't cuz he's an evil corporate bought-and-paid-for uber idiot puppet clown who isn't worth what collects in my grandmother's colostomy bag, is 'leave the bills for the children behind'".
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 06:34 PM
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7. Kreepers always are intellectually and morally inconsistent.
Except when it comes to Bill Clinton's penis.
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 08:44 PM
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9. Bush just announced he was doing the same for federal workers!
Used the old homeland security excuse, too.

Mighty short memories those FReekers have.
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 05:15 PM
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15. But of course cutting the pay of soldiers is just fine.
n/t
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