Freepers think Hillary will have Dean killed

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

No, I'm not joking. I never knew how crazy these people are!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/972812/posts

Of course, if Hillary thinks she can beat Bush in 2004, then Dean (and all other Democratic candidates) are immediately disposable.

1 posted on 08/29/2003 1:06 PM EDT by SpyGuy

The most dangerous place in the world is going to be sharing a plane with Dean if Hillary decides that she can beat President Bush and has to move Dean out of the way. I see a potential late May icing caused crash. (And I wish I was joking about that).

5 posted on 08/29/2003 1:18 PM EDT by KarlInOhio (Master of the single entendre)

[tom_paine]

1. I love to hear Freeps who Frequently Advocate Liberal Murder

advancing theories like these.

Stop projecting people, and look in the mirror.

Or perhaps the Busheis are going have Mr. Dean fall from the sky and this is just the Backstory for the Brownshirts

[xxqqqzme]

2. and I was thinking

this was more likly a rovian move. Silly me!

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

6. I don't understand the hysterical hatred of Hillary Clinton

I mean, like most Americans, I'm of the "all politicians are sleazy" opinion, but their hatred of Hillary Clinton - that started when she was the First Lady not even Senator - is just insane. Of all the power-brokers in Washington, I just can't see Hillary Clinton with all of the power they attribute to her. And what is with their obsession with the Clinton's personal life? It's insane, truly insane.

[Capn Sunshine]

24. In a world where they are insecure, a strong woman is a huge threat

Let's face it freeper types are generally milquetoast keyboard commandos. The world and all its Victorian niceties from 1892 that they so long to bring back is most significantly changed in the employment arena , where they might find their livelihood in the hands of ....gasp..... a WOMAN!

In the jungle that has become their discordant and confused lives, where they stopped adapting socially some time in the 7th grade, where women are just a complete mystery to these guys, a strong, powerful, educated and productive woman is without a doubt the biggest threat to everything; girls are after all, not supposed to be this way.

It follows that if they are strong that they are a "bitch"; but if they are uberstrong, they are "lesbian".

We don't have these issues with Pickles , do we.

[JI7]

25. she represents change during the 60's

she represents everything they view as going wrong with the cultural revolution. the right wing feels the country took a wrong turn with the civil rights , women's rights,etc movements. of course these started before the 60's. but that's when it seemed to "blow up" on the national agenda. this is one reason they hate bill clinton also. he was a southerner and came from a poor family and was abused by that step father. the corporate whores tell poor whites to blame their situation on women and minorities, but clinton knew this was not true. he supported women and minority rights, affirmative action.

[ibegurpard]

3. Well, I could buy an "icing-caused crash"

but I don't think it would be Hillary behind it.

[Fixated]

8. ......

I think she would. Only her could bake a cake and produce icing delicious enough to distract the pilot for that long.

[liberalnurse]

4. It just goes to show you how terrified

of Dean they really are....Another thing, they can't stop trying to demote the Clinton phenomena....they fear them too. They will never ever be able to change how America loved President Clinton and loves Hillary.

It is their MO to try and cause a distraction to our democratic nominee's. This jabber does defocus us off the real issues. They act under the wire, use the media to keep us confused, off course from the winning objective.

Don't take the bait.

[NewGuy]

10. I don't think they fear Dean

If you went to the Free Repug site at all during the Clinton years, you would know they felt the same way about him that we feel about bush*. I don't think we fear bush*. I think it is an honest inability on their part to see why we like Clinton or why we do not like bush*.

What both sides need to be careful of is beginning to believe their own press releases.


:evilgrin:

[ComerPerro]

44. They don't fear Dean,.

They fear progress. They fear change. They fear reform.

[Japhy_Ryder]

5. It'll be irrelevant though

as Bush will have all potential adversaries killed in the public square when he consolidates his power, disbands the Congress and Supreme Court, and declares himself Emperor. As we know, that would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no doubt about it.

[maggrwaggr]

7. Man, I burst out laughing when I read that headline

That's like two paranoias colliding head-on. Or maybe one paranoia smashing into a wishful fantasy

[Freddie Stubbs]

9. I'm glad that we don't have any nut-job conspiracy theorists here on DU

;)

[ComerPerro]

18. Ouch

I appreciate your point.

But my main fascination with this thread is the comments about Dean. They are saying he has to popular support base. Apparently they haven't been talking to anyone who isn't a psychotic FReeper. And he didn't exactly come out of nowhere.

But, yes, I recognize the hypocracy in me saying that the FReepers are crazy for saying that Hillary would have Dean killed, given my history of conspiracy theories (LIHOP. Wellstone, a few others).

[saskatoon]

35. Call me one if you will

Because take a look at the link I'm posting about the Boeing757 and Pentagon crash and what a lot of SANE people think the Bush cabal set up in that regard. The hole in the Pentagon was NOT large enough re a Boeing 757. Take a look and decide for yourself.
http://0911.site.voila.fr/index.htm

[saskatoon]

39. Conspiracy nuts

I have been trying to post a link that quite plainly shows a Bush cabal behind an unspeakable act in regards to Pentagon crash and the supposed Boeing 757. I cant get it on here. Has this site been hacked? I received 2 different messages when I tried to Post.
http://0911.site.voila.fr/index.htm

[saskatoon]

40. Have been trying to post and can't. This is an innocuous message

merely to test re hack

[saskatoon]

42. what's going on? I've been trying to Post with a link

and have tried even to send private message to this one and that, just to try and break thru' Is this site being hacked?

[Ein]

11. Ignorant

AND INSANE!

Earth to FReerepublic, the Republican party is going the way of the Nazi's and you are all blind, and dumb.

[ComerPerro]

36. In all honesty

I don't think they are all blind to it.

I think they know their party is going the way of the Nazis, and I think they are estatic about it.

Thats why they worship sycophantic character assasins like Bill OReiley and Ann Coulter.

The FReepers are too happy with the fact that they are on the winning side of imperialism to worry about their civil rights.

How did the Nazi's attain and hold power in Germany? Because the upper class held the power, and parts of the middle and lower class emulated the upperclass and did whatever they could to win their favor.

[oasis]

12. Viva the Bushista's, they've created a banana republic mentality.

:crazy:

[maha]

13. How the Freeps View Hillary

[Cocoa]

19. lol!

that's why I was puzzled by their reference to a plane. I would expect the Freepers to have her clawing Dean to death and then eating his heart to get his life force.

[maha]

20. Good point!

She just wants to be President so she can bury aborted babies in the Rose Garden, after all.

:crazy:

[AntiCoup2K4]

45. Actually, Freepers would like Jason

He usually kills the teenage camp counselors while they're engaging in fornication, doesn't he? What a great spokesman for conservative values!

Only problem is that damn hockey mask. It makes him look Canadian.

[HalfManHalfBiscuit]

14. Mirror Image of the Wellstone Murder Fan Club

Kooks are everywhere.

[DemNoir]

15. If only...

If Hillary were really so accomplished at having people killed, I really wish she would take out... Well you know what I mean.

[Kamika]

16. Curious

Just where/how did Hillary get such a reputation as she has amongst the freepers?

[ComerPerro]

17. That is pathetic

Why is Dean--a radical socialist--suddenly the darling of the national liberal news? It's clear that Dean is too extreme to ever win the presidency. So why has this no-name leftist suddenly risen to become the leading Democratic candidate?


Oh, gee, I dunno, Mr. Freeper, maybe its because of all of the money he has been raising?
Its not like he has people giving him $10,000 checks at $2,000 a plate dinners.
So its impressive.


I am telling you, if the media were even HALF as fucking liberal as these fanatics claim, then Bush would have been impeached, arrested, and executed by now.

[ComerPerro]

21. Did anyone see this post in the thread?

This was a really interesting post. This guy sounds almost rational, coherent, and well-informed. About his comment for #3 below (Bush's liberal policies), I can only assume he means Bush's spending tendencies, because he sure as hell has no socially liberal policies.


Reasons Dean can(I'm not saying WILL or Will not, but he has the best chance) win.

1. He has a strong energetic base. He's the dark horse that came out of nowhere.

2. He's an outsider and a governor. Governor's become presidents.

3. Bush is abandoning his conservative base with his liberal policies. My parent's are on the fence right now. Several others I know are also on the fence, and others had enough and will be voting third party or staying home. Two statewide races in Michigan were 17,000 votes and 5,000 votes.

4. A lot of the Nader backers would back Dean. Dean is also running a semi-populist campaign. Populist WINS right now. It's also how alwhore came back to steal Michigan and Penn.

5. While Dean IS anti-gun, he's not AS anti-gun as the others like Kerry and Gephart.

6. Dean's not a bad speaker and doesn't sound as abrasive(to me anyway) as Kerry or Gephart. He didn't sound as elitist as I suspected him to sound either.

As for the others, Lieberman is hated by liberals. Gephardt could be a threat with labor, but has been around forever. He's very abrasive as well. Kerry is Dukakis and an elitist 'high society' liberal, not to mention his wife is a loose cannon.

Rove wants Dean, but Rove does not have a good track record in the Midwest.

-------------------

Another thing is this. I don't despise Dean. There's no way I'd vote for him, especially after his envirowacko stance, tax stance, and his gun stance change, but I don't have the same distain for Dean as I do for a Kerry(especially him), Gore, Gephardt, Hitlery, Billy, Davis, or Dasshole.

There are really 7 types of voters, many overlap.

1. Near 100% Party loyalists. These people will vote GOP or Dem no matter what. Detroit and Ottawa County MI are the two extreme examples in my state.

2. Hard line conservatives or liberals. These are JUST as important as the 'moderates' that get all the hype. If you can't get your issues base to back you, that makes it that much harder to win. There are a LOT of these in my county. Liberal or moderate republicans can get as low as 53% here because conservatives won't vote for them. Conservative Republicans can get 70% or higher.

3. Reagan Democrats/Union Independents - Social Conservatices, economic populists. - These are a lot of the union members that don't drink the kool-aid. Macomb County, Monroe County, North Michigan. Those areas have a lot of them. They voted for Gore, but also for Posthumus. They hate wimps too. Gephardt would do well with them. Kerry would NOT.

4. Soccer Moms - Security is key, but personality is the biggest factor. They've leaned democrat recently. Very unpredictable and unreliable voters IMO. Bush is banking on them too much.

5. The wallet - Most common non loyalist voter. Very politically uninformed. If money is good, keep them there. If not, throw the bums out. Gore did best among these independents. Posthumus did well among wallet voters here for the same reason.(Those that liked Engler usually voted for him too) These scare me the most right now.

6. Single Issue - Ties to the base to some extent. Guns, Abortion, Taxes, NAFTA, GATT, Drugs, Immigration.

7. Small l libertarians. - These tend to vote for the more pro-freedom candidate. Largely tied to single issues, but there are several issues tied together.

Dean may do very well among the wallets(Doesn't matter if it's Bush's fault or not), small l libertarians(Patriot Act, Dean's friendly REPUTATION on guns, outsider).

Gephart is probably the 2nd strongest of the dems and could be a tough race with labor united.

Kerry is Dukakis. Can you see him in a tank..... He may do well with sucker moms, but I bet he'll get 30% of the guy vote, maybe 15% among white guys that don't live in New England or San Francisco.


15 posted on 08/29/2003 10:49 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan

[JohnKleeb]

22. Hey Dan Kerry was a Navy Vet and Mikey D was too

Now your boy Bush wasnt. Now my candiate isnt a vet but he did speak at a vets for peace convention and from what my good friend a vet tells me the vets loved him.

[DemNoir]

23. Looks like

There is a Democrat just screaming to get out of this guy!

[ButterflyBlood]

29. wow, that's insanely rational for a Freeper

typical Freeper on Dean: "He could never win because he's a wacko communist to the left of Lenin"

[ComerPerro]

34. Thats what struck me

The fact that its insanely rational, and not just insane.

[LightTheMatch]

26. That's hilarious

Really, guys, isn't that one of the funniest things you've ever read? Hillary, she's so damn dangerous...

[JohnKleeb]

27. I hear if you say hear name three times

in front of a mirror she'll come and eat you. heh thats a parody of the bloody mary stuff I think.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

28. bwa ha ha

good one. I hear that one lock of Hillary's hair can cause blindness! One drop of her blood causes tornados!

[JohnKleeb]

47. thank you

I hear if you watch a video tape with Hilliary you will get a phone call and die in 7 days.

[jburton]

30. Help me remember...

Didn't Hillary vow to stop killing after the whole Vince Foster mess?

:eyes:

[TLM]

31. She tried....

but somehow she just can't slake her thirst for republican blood.

[Clete]

32. It started with the "tea and cookies" remark.

I thought it was harmless, but a big deal was made of it, but back then we didn't realize that these incidents were being spun by the media to make her look like a woman who didn't know her place.

Then there was the "vast right wing consipiracy". She even nailed Jesse Helms as part of it and it all turned out to be true. But again, when she challenged reporters to look into the VRWC, for a really good story, she still naively believed as did the rest of us that the press was unbiased.

I have never heard Hillary say anything that would earn her the reputation that she has acquired. There must be a reason PNAC fears her so much that they created this hatred for her and feed it with more derogatory commentary from their new's lackies Limbaugh, Kovacks et al everytime she starts to gain some popularity among those they have deceived.

[Clark Can WIN]

33. Have you taken a look at some of the threads in here?

I'm not sure this particular thread of thiers is any less or more sane than some of the threads I have seen in here regarding Clark and Dean in particualar. The tinfoil hat brigade knows no party affiliation :crazy: :tinfoilhat: :crazy:

[Clark Can WIN]

37. That being said...........

I've heard when Clinton is President she plans to eat tender republican baby testicles each morning for breakfast with her eggs and toast.

[AntiCoup2K4]

46. That's an illogical assumption.

...because it requires you to believe Republicans have balls.

[leftofthedial]

38. off Dean, frame Hillary

nightmare over

October surprise

[leftofthedial]

41. off Dean, frame Hillary

nightmare over.

[SammyWinstonJack]

43. Projecting again?

In all reality, I think the most dangerous place in the World is any place Whistle Ass wants to dominate. That said, I can't recall ever having heard of a Liberal advocating the death of a CONservative or even salivating over such. I have however, heard plenty of CONservatives advocating and salivating over both. Ann Coulter comes to mind, just too name one.