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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 09:13 AM
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On Moyer's NOW tonight
Try to watch or record Bill Moyers' NOW on PBS tonight. Word on the street is that anyone with a job behind a desk is at risk.

www.pbs.org/now/politics/jobflight.html


"The numbers are startling: 3.3 million jobs in less than 15 years. That's the number of U.S. jobs expected to be lost overseas by 2015 according to a recent report by Forrester Research. But the sheer size of the exodus isn't what's worrying analysts the most — it's the type of jobs. Some critics are worried that this time it's the corporate main office is getting ready to shut down and head out of the country, packing up cubicles and all. As reported on NOW, a new wave of jobs are leaving U.S. shores: software development, customer service, accounting, back-office support, product development and other white collar endeavors.

In late 2002, computer giant Oracle announced that it would double its workforce in India. Texas Instruments already employs over 1,000 engineers at a Bangalore campus, and has made plans for a much bigger presence in the near future. In November of 2002, Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates announced that the company will be making investments of approximately $400 million in India.

And, It's not just technology jobs that have ended up in India. Charles Schwab recently moved part of its information technology division to a contractor in Bangalore, India. AOL already has a large presence in India. American Express and British Airways have ramped up their employment in the country during the past year as well.

FRONTLINE WORLD reported last year that over half of Fortune 500 companies have moved jobs offshore, including famous names from many fields: Oracle, Dell, HSBC, Delta Air Lines, Novartis, J.P. Morgan Chase, Hewlett-Packard, American Express, British Airways. More are expected to follow. "

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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 09:16 AM
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1. Yummy!
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 10:14 AM
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2. call me naive, but it seems to me . . .
that there should be some kind of penalty for corporations who pull all of the jobs out of the country yet continue to benefit by being incorporated in the U.S. . . maybe they should be denied the privilege of incorporating here if all of their operations are overseas . . . and then maybe a stiff tariff if they want to sell their goods here . . . I mean, something has to be done before there are no jobs left at all . . .
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 10:28 AM
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3. The India Times was reporting
last month on the assurances the Bush administration gave them that they would do everything they could to stop states from enacting legislation that discouraged outsourcing. In other words, if outsourcing benefits the bottom line, shrub is for it, no matter how many US citizanes it throws out of work.

Sounds like treason to me.
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 01:16 PM
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9. Yes, they should
be taxed into oblivion if they take jobs overseas. They should be heavily penalized for this.

Give them tax breaks if they hire at home.
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Lastgasp Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 10:36 AM
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4. The party of cheap labor . . .
People call the Republicans the party of cheap labor for good reason. Jobs are becoming more and more scarce each day Bush is in office. It won't be long until Americans will work for peanuts in order to have any job at all. That's what the Bushites want.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 11:30 AM
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5. They see our economy
as a big Monopoly Game. Bankrupt everyone else.
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onecitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 11:45 AM
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6. Cheap labor CONS..........
one and all. They are a bigger threat to us that OBL. Why can't America see this?
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terryg11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 11:54 AM
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7. this pisses me off!!!
once again Moyers is going to do a first rate show on an issue very important to AMerica's heart and no one will see it that should see it. Sure, people like us who already know about this problem will watch but will Joe sixpack? no, he's too busy watching the latest "reality tv" show or fox news. wht a bunch of crap, it should be mandatory tht other channels pick these shows up and air them at a more watchable time.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-03 01:04 PM
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8. The internet made "some" employees interchangeable
A guy in Bangladesh can type on a keyboard for a lot les pay and perks than a guy in Cincinatti.. Companies figured this out early on, they are just now implementing their plan..

It really boggles the mind, to see decent jobs being taken away here in the US (and other countries, to be fair), only to see those same jobs emerge in 3rd world countries for pennies... The people on the receiving end of those jobs are eternally grateful, because the job at a keyboard is better than what they would have had otherwise, but for the guy i Ohio with a wife ,2 kids, a car payment, a house payment, and a life, what is he to do???


The corporations are STEALING the middle class.. We did not think it would happen, but just ask the older people here who were factory workers, or steel workers..They had this happen to them a generation ago, and we all looked the other way...

People can now work from "anuwhere" if their job involves computers..and that makes us vulnerable..
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