Comments on Tonight's Debate

[jerryman814]

John Edwards' Opening Line : "Vice President DIck CHeney, you again have not been straight with the American people".


WoW!!

Edwards is going straight at him...

[PDittie]

1. pimp-slapped him right outta the box

Look how tight his jaw got...

[Selwynn]

2. THE FIRST ROUND WAS AN EDWARDS WIN!!!

[zoeb]

3. if I ever need an attorney...I want him be like John! n/t

[jerryman814]

4. Awesome starting points by Edwards...

John Edwards: "There is no connection between Saddam Hussein and 9/11. Period."

Man O' Man.... Little Dick is being taken to school early.

[justjones]

5. In other words: Let's get it straight, motherfucker, NO CONNECTION...

between Sadaam and Al Queda, period!

[C_eh_N_eh_D_eh]

6. Dick's trotting out the same old arguments.

And the same old lies.

[Killer Poodle]

7. LOL Cheney backs down on the Iraq/Al quaeda connection.. n/t

[atre]

11. Not just backing down, but denying he ever said it!

The press BETTER show the two-hours or so of quotes indicating exactly the opposite.

[jerryman814]

8. Afghanistan

John Edwards: "Someone did get it wrong."

Ha Ha. Edwards is upping the ante and Cheney is not calling.

Short glimpses of split screen action on PBS btw.

[jerryman814]

9. Cheney knows more about El Salvador...

than he does of Afghanistan...

Edwards: "This Vice President has been an advocate of lifting sanctions on Iran". Nice...

[atre]

10. It's amazing how many lies Cheney has spouted ALREADY

1) Iraq - Al Qaeda links
2) "I never said there was a connection between Iraq and Al Qaeda."
3) "Global Test"
4) Things are looking up in Iraq
5) Many, many more

I can't wait to see if there is honest fact-checking by the news media after this debate.

[jerryman814]

12. Cheney's hand movements....

He seems to be crossing his arms a lot and wringing his hands together.... especially when he speaks about Iraq.

:crazy:

[C_eh_N_eh_D_eh]

13. Edwards isn't speaking very clearly.

Maybe my Canuckistani ears just can't get around his accent, but it sounds like he's slurring his words. He's also misspeaking a lot.

[atre]

20. Doesn't sound that way to me

... but I was born a county away from where he was born, and I am currently living a county away from where he worked.

[noiretextatique]

32. speaking of pronounication

and why can't any of the bushistas pronouce "terrorists?"

[jerryman814]

14. HAHAHAHA

Edwards just rebuked Cheney's best argument... wow... very nice debate here

[Occulus]

15. wow, two personal record attacks in a row

Cheney must feel he needs to use them....

[ChocolateSaltyBalls]

16. Things don't sound so good right now............

at least on the radio.

[Sterling]

21. Dont worry it looks and sounds great on TV

Cheney looks uncomfortable fumbling for answers. Edwards is getting into zone.

[CHIMO]

17. Cheny

Never addressed the question that was asked.

Who the cheney do you think you are talking to?

[jerryman814]

19. Cheney is slipping...

Edwards rebuked Cheney's fancy shmancy resume lol .... Edwards is filling the gaps Kerry left in his debate (i.e. $87 billion dollar appropriations/Halliburton contracts for Iraq war)

excellent.

[CHIMO]

35. He's Talking

Around the points.
He's on the defensive.
Push em back, push em back ...way back.

Keep it up.

[atre]

18. Edwards MUST mention the H word

Ching Ching

[C_eh_N_eh_D_eh]

22. Aaaand we just lost Ohio...

[Sterling]

25. What the fuck are you talking about?

Do you have anything to say or are you just here to spread bullshit?

[C_eh_N_eh_D_eh]

33. Edwards' little dig at Cleveland. And I was joking.

I actually think Edwards is doing a great job. He's keeping his cool in the face of Dick's tremendous hostility.

[jerryman814]

23. Excellent points in bringing up troop budget cuts...

excellent ... go john go!

[jerryman814]

24. WTF?

All of a sudden Cheney cares about Iraqi death toll?>

[justjones]

26. Yeah, the Iraqis are putting their necks on the line.....by trying to

get Americans the fuck out of their country!?!

[FrozenNorth]

31. By trying to

secure their cities and towns. Most of the murdered Iraqis are their police forces and the new Iraqi military, and children of course. Nothing the "insurgents" love more than dead kids.

[Sterling]

64. Why do I get the feeling you don't really belong here?

?

[Sterling]

65. Who are they securing their towns from?

Oh that's right, their own people. Funny that many times when we send in the occupational Iraqi police or army in to fight the "terraists" they end up helping or joining the insurgents.

[C_eh_N_eh_D_eh]

27. Did Cheney's camera just cut out?!!

Ha ha! Dick's ugly mug broke the camera!

[jerryman814]

28. Oh you ask questions? that's your job you say Dick?

How come you don't ask your president why he went AWOL 30 years ago?

[Jo March]

52. It's HARD WORK, people

Leave the poor overworked man alone! ;)

[charlie]

29. BIG OPENING!

Bush passed on killing Zarqawi before the war. Git'im John!

[Killer Poodle]

30. This is what a 50/50 debate looks like. nt

[jerryman814]

34. It's 50/50 because Cheney is lying so much...

"We are working with the North Koreans to bring them around"

"BRING THEM AROUND"?????? WHat a moron!!! WHat the hell does "bring them around mean"?

[atre]

37. Bullshit

...unless you mean 50% bullshit/ 50% Edwards shining.

[Andrushka]

36. Halliburton!

Yeahhhhhh!!!!

Go John!

[AgadorSparticus]

38. Edwards is digging in with Halliburton!! And he's throwing in facts

about Halliburton to dig that knife in a little deeper.

[jerryman814]

39. WOwza

AHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA Edwards just rebuked Cheney's ass five miles to hell!

[C_eh_N_eh_D_eh]

40. See, Dick? Democrats do their homework, too!

[xxqqqzme]

41. falling apart on

Is/Pal matter.

Wow, Now unca dick is attacking JE.

Attacks in Israel attached to Saddam????? when did that happen. Bet Saddam doesn't know that.

[William Bloode]

42. So far...

I see Edwards with just the slightest of edges. But all i hear from crashcart is the same ol' talking points, he just happens to do it 110% better than Bush.

[jerryman814]

43. Once again....

Kerry/Edwards shows that being consistent or just showing up doesn't mean you are correct.... Good job Edwards so far...

[jerryman814]

44. Hahahaha

Edwrads points out Cheney dodging the question!

[jerryman814]

45. Edwards is trumping Cheney now...

"We will do, what they have not done"

1 - Balance budget
2 - Social security
3 - Tax Relief (He really spelled it now nicely)

Great points

[Sin]

46. So how long

Do you think until Dick's ticker starts to have some problems
and he keels over on stage. ya know i wouldn't put it past him to fake a heart attack

[William Bloode]

47. Ahhhh, Edwards is starting to hit his stride....

with the economic issuse's. He looking much better now. Truth hurts dont it Darth Vader :D

[geomon666]

48. A shot right in the gut.

We can't take 4 more years.

[jerryman814]

50. I like how...

Edwards looks right at Cheney when he throws a fact at him to rebuke one of Cheney's lies... Very nice technique.

I also like how he says "I want everyone to hear this..."

[Jo March]

54. That is the best way to do it

Look evil in the eyes and fight it head on.

[Killer Poodle]

49. Dick on the defensive.. Using Republican tax lies now.

[jerryman814]

51. Edwards on gay marriage...

"We should not use the constitution to divide this country"

MAN OH MAN !! GREAT DAMN POINT RIGHT THERE ON GAY MARRIAGE.

[NVMojo]

55. yep, pointing out how the great dividers work!!!

[I Lean Left]

93. Should have said

"It's wrong to use the issue to divide the country, and I'll resist the temptation to use it to divide the republican ticket. It would still be wrong."

[Killer Poodle]

53. lol @ Edwards.. Yeah Dick, your daughter is gay.

[jerryman814]

Wow...

No response on the gay marriage.

[NVMojo]

58. on this issue, what could he say?

they are using the issue to divide americans and distract and I do believe he loves his daughter. Edwards summed it up for him, really.

[AgadorSparticus]

59. that silence is pretty damn loud, too.

[Jo March]

57. Dick is trying to appear human

"I don't entirely hate my bound-for-hell lesbian daughter." The man is a hypocrite.

[Killer Poodle]

61. LOL.. Exactly.

[atre]

56. Great shot about gay marriage amendment!

The amendment was just pandering to the base.

There is a public policy exception to the Full Faith and Credit Clause when it comes to enforement of marriage licenses: states have ALWAYS been allowed to refuse to recognize a marriage license from another state when it has a strong public policy against it.

Only those with no familiarity with family law can say this.

[Postman]

60. Why don't the doctors police their own to get rid of bad doctors?

then maybe their rates will go down...

[chemteacher]

62. I think it is a 50/50 debate...

Cheney is a policy wonk and it shows, but he is pretty evil...the lecturing tone can't help him.

JE is super personable, but there were a couple of early shots he could have hit out of the park...i.e. hit the deficit a little more clearly..."They reward wealth, we reward work."

[Killer Poodle]

63. Cheney is getting OWNED on Medical Tort Reform.

[jerryman814]

66. BAM!

Healthcare coverage...

Does the debate seem deflated after the gay marriage squabble or what?

[Jo March]

67. What makes you qualified to be a heartbeat away

Waiting to see what crap Cheney pulls out of his ass.

[jerryman814]

68. Not that much of a heartbeat....

especially with all Cheney being prone to heart attacks

[atre]

70. Hmm... actually, this is a good honest answer

The only time during this debate he has been so honest: different VPs are needed for different Presidents. He implicitly acknowledged that Bush was such a dunce that he needed an insider like himself to run the show from the No. 2 spot.

[B Calm]

69. Upper Managment Sociopath Cheney has clearly

lost this debate!

[jerryman814]

71. I am surprised as well...

Cheney has fallen flat on his face tonight as Bush did on Thursday... Ad closing comments arrive, look for Cheney to use lots of words to try to humanize hismself.

He is really muttering right now (almost inaudible).

[bagimin]

73. Cheney Should have taken a nap

he's sure puttin me to sleep..

[B Calm]

78. I yawn evey time Cheney opens his mouth.

What a freakin' bore!

[Killer Poodle]

72. LOLOLOL @ Cheney stating he's "similar" to Edwards. Jackass.

[Andrushka]

74. He's really getting him

on the "flip-flop" charge. Fantastic John!.

[jerryman814]

75. Flip flop question is a bit weird...

Didn't think that Bushism would be invoked in such a formal debate... But ho well... Edwards took that question to Cheney also...

[jerryman814]

76. Flip flop question is a bit weird...

Didn't think that Bushism would be invoked in such a formal debate... But ho well... Edwards took that question to Cheney also...

[mrbassman03]

82. Yeah, some of these questions are a little bizzare...

The leadership one... wtf???

[noiretextatique]

77. massachesetts standard

go cheney yourself cheney.

[jerryman814]

80. the moderator is a moron....

of all the people available for the debate.... why the hell was she given it? she has goofed so many times... almost laughable...

[noiretextatique]

86. i am disappointed is ms. ifill...too many loaded questions

based on republican talking points.

[noiretextatique]

87. i am disappointed is ms. ifill...too many loaded questions

based on republican talking points.

[geomon666]

79. wow

Edwards just slaughtered Cheney with education stats. Cheney's response? ".........they flip flopped."

[Killer Poodle]

81. "It's hard to know where to start" Cheney pulls a Bush.

[jerryman814]

84. "It's hard to know where to start" = ...

"Shit, you're right about it all. I am a liar".

[jerryman814]

83. WOW!

What a closing statement by John Edwards... Bravo! Great debate overall!

[Supormom]

85. Edwards thanked Cheney for debate...

Cheney thanked the moderator and said nothing to John Edwards.

[Andrushka]

88. Cheney's closing comments:

terra terra terra terra terra terra...sigh...terra terra terra. Thank you.

[Killer Poodle]

89. Partisans will say their man won. Neutrals will see this as a 50/50 debate

[Cicero]

90. What was the deal with Cheney saying "I never met you before tonight"

I mean, yeah, he's President of the Senate, but how many times has he actually presided over the Senate? And as antagonistic things are between the Dems and Repubs, I'm sure there are other senators he hasn't met. (And some he wishes he hadn't, like Leahy.)

:shrug:

Later,

[jerryman814]

91. It was just a quick one-liner...

that's the only things he had going for him all night. AFter he started mumbling about who knows what. the debate was over. Edwards wrapped it up...

[montana500]

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