The Repuke Senators are going off on Kerry over the "Global Test"

[in_cog_ni_to]

remark in the debate. They're on the Senate floor bashing France and Germany and the UN! These people are so IGNORANT!

On the Senate Floor NOW on C-SPAN 2

[nostamj]

1. they're also LYING...

desperate pigs.

[ismnotwasm]

2. Last time I checked

we did a lot of business with the rest of the world--both friends, not that we have any anymore, and so-called enemies. We also do a lot of humanitarian aid. We all live on the same planet, at least all the sane people I know think so. So what is the problem with having high standards for America, which is what that comment was about? Some republicans are trying to spin world politics into some kind of B western cowboy and Indian shoot-em-up. What is wrong with these people?

[in_cog_ni_to]

3. Mitch O'Connell says....

Kerry voted against the F14 D3 fighter planes, the apache helicopter, the patriot missiles, the missile defense system, B1 bomber, B2 bomber, the bunker buster bombs, he wanted to cut intelligence funding by a whopping 5 billion, he voted against the $87 Billion for our troops, he voted against pay raises for our troops.


Mr. Kerry,
would you do whatever it takes to protect us?...He's not ready for final exam.

Mitch O'Connell Repuke :puke:

[Bandit]

4. We need to start including all Republican Congressmen in our

attacks on this Administration. They are all joined at the hip. We need to rid our country of more than just Bush*/Cheney. They all promote the same policies and it is obvious how harmful they are to our country. Don't limit your attacks to just Bush*...

[skygazer]

5. I thought this was an excellent answer to the whole thing

http://slate.msn.com/id/2107690/

The Global Test
It's called reality.
By William Saletan
Posted Monday, Oct. 4, 2004, at 3:49 AM PT


We've just reached the crux of the presidential campaign—the moment in which one candidate, purporting to expose the other's fatal flaw, has instead exposed his own.

Saturday morning, President Bush attacked John Kerry for a comment Kerry made in Thursday night's debate. Here's how Bush described Kerry's remark:

He said that America has to pass a global test before we can use American troops to defend ourselves. That's what he said. Think about this. Sen. Kerry's approach to foreign policy would give foreign governments veto power over our national security decisions. I have a different view. When our country is in danger, the president's job is not to take an international poll. The president's job is to defend America. I'll continue to work every day with our friends and allies for the sake of freedom and peace. But our national security decisions will be made in the Oval Office, not in foreign capitals.

This description, which Bush continues to repeat at campaign stops and in television ads, is plainly false. In his first answer of the debate, Kerry said, "I'll never give a veto to any country over our security." But if that isn't what Kerry meant by a "global test," what did he mean? Let's go back and look at Kerry's words.

EDITED BY ADMIN: COPYRIGHT

[leetrisck]

6. bush used "global effort" in the debate

so why don't we bash the crap out of him

[Moderator]

7. Hi Skygazer

Please be aware that DU copyright rules require that excerpts of copyrighted material be limited to four paragraphs.

Thanks

[jmags]

9. Juan Cole's interpretation is also pretty good:

Snip:

The attack ads and pundits are accusing Kerry of saying that any US military action must in his view meet a "global test" in the sense of being approved by the world community. George W. Bush has taken up this line and castigated what he calls a "Kerry doctrine" that you can't go to war without global permission. Dr. Condaleeza Rice, who rather amusingly suggested she was staying above the political fray, said on Wolf Blitzer that Kerry intended to constrain US policy by making it dependent on the concord of countries like Cuba. (The fact that Cuba and Libya are in the UN is often used by unilateralists to denigrate it, even though neither country is typically on the Security Council and only five countries have the veto, including the US).

Kerry very clearly meant no such thing. He started by saying that he would not give up the prerogative of going to war preemptively. How much clearer could he have been? Bush has invented a so-called "Kerry doctrine" out of the air. Obviously, Kerry's critics need a better dictionary. They don't know what "global" means. Let us look, for instance, at Merriam-Webster Online.

...

Kerry is saying that Bush's reasons for going to war were flawed and incomplete, so that in some polls less than half of Americans now say it was justified. And if less than half of Americans can justify it, you can hardly expect that the Spanish should go on giving gold and lives for its sake. This unfortunate situation, Kerry is saying, is because the rationale for the war was deficient, incomplete, and less than global in the sense of thoroughgoing.

W. probably couldn't get out a word like "thoroughgoing" without tripping all over it, so Kerry did him a favor in using the shorter word "global." Unfortunately, W.'s dictionary doesn't seem to go all the way down to the third meaning of the word, which is the one Kerry used. Misunderstanding Kerry's "global" to mean "worldwide" is just as bad an error as misunderstanding it to mean "spherical." If Bush came out attacking Kerry for proposing a "round test," and insisting the test must be square, it wouldn't be less silly than what he is doing. Dr. Rice, who was provost at Stanford, knows better, but some persons with "Dr." before their name--one thinks of Faustus-- have long ago signed away their souls

www.juancole.com

[WLKjr]

8. Mepublicans like to gang up on you

because they are pussies.

Leaders with real cohonies take it straight to the problem, and don't need to get a gang together to work out problems.

[realFedUp]

10. Bush couldn't pass the global test

We are worse off than four years ago.