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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 02:03 PM
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7th Grader, Learning Disabled, response to the debate....
My husband teaches seventh grade learning support in an inner city environment. He asked his students to watch the debates if their parents would let them. Two students were able to watch the debates.

One of the students had this summary:
"The President is stupid!!!"

Seems this LD kid is smarter than GW!

The other student took a lot of notes, which hubby has promised he will bring home this week and let me see...I find it fascinating that an LD student would take notes on a presidential debate, when he can only perform reading and writing tasks with great difficulty. Too bad adults aren't that interested!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 02:06 PM
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1. LD people are actually smarter than Non-LD people
Hey I ain't bragging, it's true, and many people use it as an excuse in class, I smile and say hey y'all you know I am LD too.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 02:11 PM
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2. Thanks , a LD has nothing to do with I.Q.
but in the way a person learns things .


:loveya: My son has some LD but is above his
grade level in reading and science and social
studies .
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 02:26 PM
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8. right, learning differences
Yep I am great at social studies and reading but I struggle with math and some sciences.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 02:16 PM
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3. Right--LDs don't lack intelligence, they just can't learn in the usual way
:headbang:
rocknation
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 02:27 PM
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9. well I knew I couldnt
With Mario yelling at me in 7th grade Pre Algebra :), and that was before "Sleepy" came about.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 02:57 PM
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12. in fact, above average IQ is common
for LD kids.
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 02:18 PM
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4. JohnKleeb, well then LD must only mean you cannot be rote trained
Edited on Sun Oct-03-04 02:20 PM by patdem
and you have ideas that are outside of the mainstream...cause you, my son, are NOT LD..at least not in the sense that that term is thrown around! I probably would have been labled LD too, only I was in school oh, 40 years ago, and my prognosis was that I was bored with class!!! No Ritlin for me.


Edit: rote, not route..that is route 66 not 6x6...DUH!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 02:25 PM
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7. I am so
It shows, believe they tested me long time ago though this year is the first year since 7th grade where I haven't had one self contained class.
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 02:54 PM
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11. JohnKleeb, I have read MOST if not ALL of your posts..and if that is LD
then LD is smarter than the average bear!! If being quite in class and being able to learn 1x1=1.. We need more nuns to teach...they are compassionate without taking any crap. Not REAL nuns, just people who teach LIKE nuns.

Sorry JohnKleeb...like Kerry said, just because bush* says it is so does not make it so.

JohnKleeb, just because someone said so does not make it so. You are an intelligent articulate youngster...I was even AMAZED when I found out you were a youngster!!!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 03:00 PM
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13. LD people are actually smarter according to studies
I pick on myself, really, most people are shocked when I tell them my plans are to attend the local comm college which is one of the better ones though.
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 02:19 PM
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5. Only 2 students were able to watch the debates????
WTF?
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 02:24 PM
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6. Well, 9pm to 10:30 is rather late for a 12-13 year old.
I had to go to bed at 9pm until I was in high school. I'm hoping these kids were in bed; but could also have been out on the streets, sigh.
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teach1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 02:33 PM
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10. Extra credit
I gave my fifth grade class an extra credit assignment: watching the debates for style only. Using newspaper articles, we read about each candidates' speaking style. We drew up a list of plusses and minuses for both. The kids did include past observations when making up the lists. Kerry was too long-winded; his sentences too dense and his words too multisyllabic. Bush tended to stammer and speak too slowly. After the debate, the class concensus was that Kerry accomodated for his weak points during the debate; while Bush didn't. One girl said she could "finally understand Kerry." The class also remarked on what they saw as Bush's anger. They were really struck that both candidates wrote notes during the debates.

Anyway, the debate had no effect on who the class prefers. In anonymous voting, we're still deadlocked, with Kerry one vote ahead.

The kids have no clue who I support. I ask them all the time: "Do you know who I'm for yet?" More of the class thinks I'm for Bush.

One more thing. At the beginning of the year, almost all of my students thought that Saddam Hussein was "the 9/11 guy."
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 03:40 PM
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14. fantastic job! We need more teachers like you!
:toast:
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