Karl Rove: 'We've Got a Couple of Surprises' for Kerry

[usurper4]

Karl Rove: 'We've Got a Couple of Surprises' for Kerry

President Bush's top political adviser, Karl Rove, said Wednesday that the Bush-Cheney campaign is planning some October "surprises" for challengers John Kerry and John Edwards.

"We've got a couple of surprises that we intend to spring," Rove told ABC radio host Sean Hannity while explaining that he intends to wage an aggressive campaign no matter what the polls show.

Uh, Karl? You might wanna dip into that "bag of tricks" a little earlier than planned....

[951]

1. October "surprises" gee I didnt see that coming

[jumpstart33]

43. They are going to spring Osama....just wait.

They have an imposter in the wings. Whatever they spring, the nation can not survive with four more years of this neo-con regime.

[bagnana]

74. That's why I wish Kerry had used Bush's words last night

"I don't know where he is, and I don't care. He's just not that important."
(or some such)

Then Kerry could have said, unfortunately, because of the mess created in Iraq, that may just be true.

[Carla in Ca]

64. But what the heck are they?

n/t

[wtmusic]

2. Kerry's 'September Surprise' just kicked W's ever-lovin' ass

He's ready.

[coloradodem2005]

3. What is KKKarl planning?

n/t

[DenverDem]

4. They are called "Dirty Tricks", kkkarl.

I'm sure lucianne is free to handle it for you.

Johhny K and Johnny E aren't stupid enough to fall for your lame shit this time, however, kkkarl.

[librechik]

5. Alert !! hire more bodyguards, and secure the offices better!

watch out for planted evidence,thievery, etc

[AndyTiedye]

12. Don't Let Them Monkey With Your Plane, and DON'T GO TO DALLAS!!!

[newyawker99]

55. I agree librechik.

I think whatever it is, it will be more
sinister than producing bin Laden.

[LoZoccolo]

6. Yeah fuck anything substantial, let's just pull some tricks.

[July]

35. I hope more than a few blogs pick this up.

And run with it.

A little inoculation?

[King_Crimson]

42. AARRGGGHH....

What a site to see...a photo of Pushead Karl first thing in the morning! :puke:

[Wapsie B]

7. So dirty tricks are gonna

make people vote for this retard? The only thing that's been keeping chimpy afloat is a compliant and obedient media in this country and his insiders know it. Me thinks chimp's teflon has taken a direct hit tonight from the USS Kerry.

[bobbieinok]

8. get to Kerry's food or drink before next debate; mess up his transportatio

have scandal develop about a good friend to throw off his emotional balance

[AnnitaR]

9. Hey Rover, we got one big fucking surprise for you Nov 2!

It's all crashing down around your fat ass! Deal with it!

[Elwood P Dowd]

10. They're going to thaw out Osama

early one Sunday morning in October. Everyone at church will be talking about the brave little chimp. The NFL, NASCAR, and Major League Baseball playoffs will be cutting to news of our hero capturing OBL. Rove will personally put the little chimp on the plane to fly over to Afghanistan and then he will move to the Marine One chopper and land in the mountains where OBL lies dead. Bush will then jump on a white horse with Osama's head and ride off into the sunset as Wolf Blitzer speaks words of praise with Pete Seeger softly singing "So fair the well, my rambling boy, may all your ramblings bring you joy".

[FatSlob]

50. LMAO!

[Mojambo]

11. What an incredibly STUPID thing for Rove to say

Let's just say that they happen to get lucky and nab Bin Laden in October.

Isn't it going to be awfully easy for people to say that it was a politically orchestrated stunt by Rove?

It's like when you threaten to kill an enemy and then they turn up dead. The suspicion is going to fall on you.

[phylny]

30. Rove's antics remind me of a spoiled frat boy.

The whole lot of them are sophomoric and meanspirited.

[TlalocW]

13. Oh, no!

They're going to knock on Kerry's door and run away after leaving a flaming bag of dog shit on the porch!

Or toilet-paper his trees! Egg his cars! Prank-order a bunch of pizzas to his house (Theresa will have to pay for them of course)! Call him up in the middle of the night and ask him if his refrigerator is running!

Those bastards are ruthless!

TlalocW

[Bunny]

24. ***snarf***

Good one! :toast:

[KansDem]

48. But when stomping it out, the Kerry will discover...

...not a flaming bag of dog shit, but a ham sandwich, bag of chips and a banana...

It'll turn out Bush grabbed the wrong bag off Karl's desk, and took it to the Oval Office for his lunch!

[Swamp Rat]

14. Karl is working overtime now, after the Kerry Smack-down on Dumbya.

[Eye and Monkey]

16. LMAO - See ya in October!

still LMAO.

[AlCzervik]

15. I think thats Karl's coke talking for him

i saw ole sweaty and disheveled Karl on cspan, he don't hold up too good under then there hot lights.

[Duncan Grant]

17. We're not afraid of you Rove. Talk is cheap, mf. n/t

[Cat Atomic]

18. I remember when "October surprise" was almost a dirty word.

It was descriptive of the lowest sort of self-serving abuse of power.

But now, even mainstream media hacks just assume the Bush administration will pull one. They openly ponder what it might be, as if it isn't shameful.

[VOX]

19. Hey Karl, surprise this!

_||_
u uu

[thebigidea]

20. Luckily, I've prepared an instructional film for just such an event

http://www.terminalproduct.com/octobersurprise.rm

So there!

[The Minus World]

21. A Surprise? Should I Bring my Party Hat?

I think the Bush appearance tonight was enough of a *surprise* for all of us disillusioned democrats who were expecting a corporate-sponsored snowball fight.

So, what does Rove have planned?

At this point, dirty personal allegations wouldn't be much of a "surprise," per se - at least not enough to truly affect Kerry's strong numbers.

Everyone and their grandmother is expecting Osama in November. I honestly think that his "un-thawing" would be more counterproductive to republicans, since it would immediately spur most of America into questioning the unnaturally convenient timing. Questions like "Why did they wait this long to unveil him? Are they playing politics with terror?" would resonate, even through republican-leaning talk shows. People are a bit more skeptical now, and Rove understands that.

Brainstorming with a Rovian mindset, you discover some necessary outcomes for an effective October Surprise. The ultimate result will be not to galvanize the 20-30% that are already going to vote for Bush regardless of what happens, but to either scare the undecideds into voting themselves into a dictatorship or, failing that, suspend the election somehow.

I'm optimistic that the democrats have something up their sleeves as well - a strategy to preempt Rove's fear tactics. I have a feeling that the post-debate battle for the White House will become really surreal.

[donco6]

39. I think they missed the opp. for Osama

It's too late. The first question will be, "So, where've you been hiding him?" Considering his name has been unmentionable as Voldemort for the past two years.

[eridani]

22. Let's hope Osama's freezer burns don't show

The Kerry camp ought to be prepared for this one.

[JI7]

23. if this was true, why would he openly say it ?

if you truly have something why would you say it ? why not just let it out when you let it out ? it seems it could be an attempt to try to get the kerry campaign off balance. kind of like the "make him sweat" during the debates thing.

[EnfantTerrible]

78. It's also fodder for the media to avoid discussing

any real issues. Now they'll waste air-time speculating and starting a pool on what it might be.

[Hephaistos]

25. Don't misunderestimate the BFEE's will to win

They will do ANYTHING to keep their racket going. The alternative is spending a looooong time in jail when their crimes are finally prosecuted.

It also doesn't matter if we see through the tricks - it's about the millions of voters who didn't see through the CBS memo stunt, either. As long as there is no irrefutable evidence for framing an event as a dirty trick, the media will refrain from reporting it as such, no matter how conviced DUers are.

I fully expect at least one major pre-election event, and definitely something major post-election.

My best guess right now is allegations of voting fraud against dems if Kerry wins, possibly involving Diebold machines. Then a couple of republican state leges will send their own slate of electors instead of popularly elected ones, like they threatened to do in Florida in 2000. Woodruff & co will discuss at length how this is perfectly legal and does not create a constitutional crisis, etc...

Be prepared. Don't play into their hand.

[calimary]

56. True, I would be on the alert. I don't put ANYTHING past these schmucks.

And we need better, scrappier, strategy-minded fighters out there than Warren Christopher, too. If further polls and pundits indicate that Kerry has indeed become Lazarus, expect kkkarl to start playing REEEEEEEEAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYYY dirty. Those who say DON'T TRUST THESE PEOPLE should be listened to, IN EARNEST.

[mopaul]

26. yes, if anyone ever needed an october hoax, it's bush...be afraid

[Dakkon]

27. In fact..

how Karl Rove said in that comment worried me. I hope Kerry will take that comment into consideration and be prepare for it..

[Judi Lynn]

28. I know what you mean. There's NOTHING beneath them.

I hope he has more security than he can ever need. He needs to protect himself for the sake of a safe and sane world after the election.

[Windy]

29. The fact that these idiots continue to support that IDIOT

after last night is proof positive that are pure evil with no regard for the USA! Bush should be removed from office NOW!!!!!

[laylah]

31. Link please. n/t

[LatinManNH]

32. Do not kill me for

writing this, but on another forum someone linked the freeper site where they were discussing this very statement, suggesting that Rove has a pic of Kerry burning and pissing on an American flag. Has anyone else heard of this rumor? Excuse my stupidity if this has already been debunked.

[WLKjr]

33. Facts are Facts

He never did that, and if there is a pic, it's photoshopped, just like the jane fonda one.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

34. This "rumor" doesn't even rise to the level to deserve debunking....

...sounds like some freeper with too much time on his hands using Photoshop.

I'd be willing to bet that there's quite a bit more in the way of documented misbehaviors involving FratBoy then there is involving Kerry. I don't think the freepers want to go there, do you?

[LatinManNH]

36. I imagine

what Rove is really saying to his minions, "Get me something, anything, on Kerry!"

[EnfantTerrible]

79. KKKarl sending an encoded message

via the media? Where on earth would he get the idea to do that?

[drscm]

40. And we have had three and a half years evidence

that *Bush has been pissing on the American people.

[calimary]

57. Maybe we SHOULD make sure there's something additional

to throw back in THEIR faces if they try something really awful. YES we have every minute of every day in the last three-and-some miserable, bloody, anguished years. But none of that has gotten through some of the thick heads among these pathetic, deluded people.

[helpisontheway]

46. I hope the Kerry campaign has an October surpise

If they do I will be shocked. I"m not expecting it though...

[Lerkfish]

53. LOL!

that merely shows how shallow and desperate republicans are at this point.
I say, g'head, photoshop that up for us and circulate it.
At this point, that's only playing to the base and pushing the undecideds to Kerry.

Regular people are smarter than repubs sheeple, they'll see through it.

[Killarney]

37. Link?

[The Backlash Cometh]

38. Here come the dirty tricks.

[Junkdrawer]

41. No...Here comes MORE dirty tricks

[against all enemies]

44. Karl, having W act like an idiot is no surprise!!

We all know he is dumber than dirt.

[Lindsey]

45. Karl Rove is the most calculating, evil individual in the

administration. I hope the Kerry crowd is totally prepared. Rove will resort to anything.

[PATRICK]

47. Rattled and trying

childishly to bully and scare the nation he is not accountable toward. He has broken a lot of commandments. Making himself a campaign issue in this way is breaking a key rule of his profession, even as an outlaw. He is too scared to criticize Bush for losing. I wait for that inevitable day to come when they feel free to turn on each other.

He should be in jail.

[mmonk]

49. Maybe its time

for the dems to have a few surprises for Rove. It would be good for him to have to watch out for something coming at him.

[belle]

76. I'm with you there.

[Chelsea Patriot]

51. Please! The Ravings of Meth-Dildo Freak!

[Terran]

52. Question is, Karl...

At what point does a surprise become a "dirty low-down slimey trick" in the minds of the public? The closer we get to 11/2, the more that perception is likely to shift. Find Osama on October 28th? Who's gonna believe that's not a set-up? It will back-fire.

[sonicx]

54. kick. nt

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

58. The DNC should make a commercial from that tape

Use their poor behavior on them

[AmandaRuth]

62. Hey that's a great idea -

you cannot win always on the defensive, please DNC go on the offensive on this....

[blm]

71. YES. Shame them with their own diabolic attitude exposed to America.

.

[Corgigal]

59. Joe Tippi told

some of us that they had a Bush's booking photo. I hope the Dean people share with the Kerry people. Just in case.

[nostalgicaboutmyfutr]

60. separated at birth....

Rove and Limbaughtomy are so separated at birth! I can't help but htink of one and the other pops into my head.

[hyphenate]

61. Someone should alert the FBI

Sounds like a threat against a Presidential candidate, don't you think? Lock him in leg-irons for a month, put him in Abu Ghraib and let him be in the submissive position for awhile. Better yet, send him to Guantanemo, and forget what cell he's in.

[durablend]

67. Rove CAN'T be desperate enough

To try and mount an assassination attempt against Kerry, could he?

Really sounds far fetched, but I don't know if I would put anything past him.

[HEIL PRESIDENT GOD]

73. Assassination?

What would that do? Kerry's corpse would beat Bush handily.

It's us he intends to kill--lots of ordinary American civilians.

[The Minus World]

63. Oktoberfest

I believe it is highly unlikely that the republican attack-squad will do something as pedestrian as to wheel out Osama bin Laden this month.

If you believe that the Bush administration relies on the persistence of terrorism as a cover for worldwide corporate fraud and the expansion of U.S. empire, then it follows that they *need* someone like Osama bin Laden out there, presenting constant conflict - much like the communist threat - in order to exempt their own actions from scrutiny.

I believe the "October Surprise" will be something that will poise republicans for a new conquest. Something that creates dissension in America, so that a seemingly benevolent Bush administration can prove their valor by saving the day. If you boil it down, it has been, is, and always will be as simple as this: Manufacture the problem, then create a desired solution.

We need to fight this, and we need to fight it hard. We need people to know that we see it coming. It is against human nature for us to consciously allow these people to use their own citizens as fodder for political gain.

[EnfantTerrible]

80. Iran

They've already laid the groundwork...

[Zinfandel]

65. Let's not be caught with our pants down...Send donations to the DNC!

http://www.johnkerry.com/about/john_kerry/

And donations to MoveOn.org doesn't hurt either.
www.moveon.org

But do something everyday, this is crunch time! Donate, write, speak to people, get them to vote, etc...IT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE!

[B Calm]

66. I have a good feeling that the democrats have an Oct. surprise.

I'm not sure what the Democratic party has up their sleeve, but I just know there will be something. I've never seen the democratic party this fired up in my life. This time the cons have a real fight on their hands. Oh sure Karl Rove will be slinging his mud, because they know they can't run on Bushes record. But, we know that the republicans are scared! The voters are becoming aware that the democratic party has a great candidate and we are united to get this filthy corrupt administration out of Washington. The cons know that we'll be going to the voting booths in numbers like they never seen before. Look for the democratic party to win back the white house along with seats in both houses.

[West Coast Democrat]

68. Only a desperate fool says this sort of thing to a television audience....

Karl will probably just make additional attempts to promote the previous "dirty tricks" that didn't catch on outside of the Freeper community: the Kerry-intern story, the Kerry supported the Communists during the war story, etc.

[maxsolomon]

69. i'm sure he does -

i fear they're saving the nastier bits of kerry's divorce records for after the last debate, when the media can go back to ignoring kerry.

who will they get to whore it is the question.

[Larkspur]

70. You mean Karl hasn't started the "Kerry has peaked too soon" meme?

:shrug:

[tishaLA]

72. THIS IS A NEWSMAX STORY

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/9/29/175039.shtml

apparently the freepers are trying to say Sen. Kerry burned and pissed on a flag too...Read about it from No More Mr. Nice Blog

http://nomoremister.blogspot.com/2004/09/president-bushs-top-political-adviser_30.html

[GarySeven]

75. Oct. surprise = martial law, murder, internment of all liberals

These gangster thugs have been planning this all along and the American sheeple will buy it.

[goodboy]

77. Is there a transcript of this??? eom

[B Calm]

81. Bush/McCain 2004 Corporate Sociopath Cheney resigns

after massive heart attack caused by debating the hero of the working class Sen. Edwards.

Ocober Surprise: Bush/McCain 2004