Honestly, objectively rank Kerry's performance against the Chimperor.

[UdoKier]

Honestly, objectively rank Kerry's performance against the Chimperor.

There is no choice for Kerry losing, because it was CRYSTAL clear that Bush didn't win.

[Cat Atomic]

1. It was like watching an adult scolding an idiot child.

It was a slam dunk. Bush looked like a fool. Kerry was very statesman-like.

[WLKjr]

2. Kerry came out swinging.

I loved when he said "Where do you wan't me to start??" with a big smile, that was priceless.

[Swamp Rat]

3. Kerry wiped the floor with the chimp!

Geaux Kerry! :kick:

[Nicholas_J]

4. Kerry did an absolutely perfect job

doing what everyone said he would have trouble doing.

He was able to explain his stance on Iraq and Terrorism in a clear, concise and short format, that could be understood by the simplest voter.

He clearly deleineated the differences between himself and Bush, and in fact he made it clear that people might FEEL secure with Bush in office, butthey would actually BE secure with Kerry in office.

[Mel]

5. I was listening to it at first

and thought man Bush is doing awful and Kerry is doing well. When I tuned into C-Span the contrast in their demeanors was damning for Bush and Kerry look Presidential. I do admit it right now that Kerry was not my first choice so I hope my opinion isn't seen as partisan and I do believe Kerry kicked Bush's butt!
The look on Bush's face what a brat and his body language! tsk! tsk!
My Mother would of punished me for sure if I had ever projected those types of looks toward her.

[exsoccermom]

6. Okay, I am bias

I'm from a long line of democrates. Bush is such an idiot and has lost so many allies that I fear the future if he is relected. The rest of the world is not with us now. We need our friends with us. As long as Bush is in there, we are in danger.

[llywrch]

7. Unfortunately, It Wasn't a Decisive Win for Kerry

since one of the following would have needed to have happened:

1. Bush stormed off the stage in an inarticulate rage;
2. Bush broke down & cried;
3. Bush actually admitted for the first time in his career as a politician that he had made a mistake.

Instead, he soldiered on & defied our attempts to label him a wimp. But then he still has time to call off the rest of the debates for some reason -- maybe they stopped making the podium he was trained to talk behind -- which would make this a decisive win.

Geoff

[antigone382]

10. Aww, sure it was

There is nothing the chimp could have done short of performing an abortion on his gay lover on national television that would have swayed the hardcore rabid freepers. All Kerry had to do was appear intelligent, articulate, and strong, and present a clear grasp of the issues, as well as a plan for what to do about them. He did all that. Chimpy, meanwhile, huffed and puffed, glared and rolled his eyes, got caught up in drawn-out pauses, stuttered even when spewing his most trusted stump speech talking points, and sounded whiny and unnerved. He did not look like a wise, responsible leader. Kerry did.

I'm not saying that we don't still have to work for this campaign, or that we've got all the swing voters 100%, but this was definitely a huge pendulum swing in our direction, and that's all anyone should expect.

[llywrch]

14. Then Why are so Many Talking Heads Insisting

that it was a draw?

A decisive victory, IMHO, means that even your opponent admits they were defeated. We'd be hearing mutterings from the other camp that ``Bush has to do better next time" or ``the momentum is now with Kerry, but we can come back". Instead, they keep repeating that it was a draw: a cow-orker who supports Bush claimed this morning that ``both candidates made good points".

The Bush cultists (I find it hard to consider them rational advocates) are continuing on in denial, able ignore such fact like, going in, Rove & his henchmen were counting on making Kerry sweat under lights when it was Bush who guzzled down water like a condemned man. Or claim Kerry was ``wooden" when he was obviously smiling & grinning & animated -- he loved mixing it up with Bush, whose only defense was to promise ``more of the same."

A decisive victory would mean we don't have to fight the spinsters who are trying to minimize the damage Bush took last night. (I know I have a letter to write to correct a columnist in my hometown paper who apparently watched a different debate form the rest of us.)

But then, because they claim it was ``a draw", now Bush _has_ to show up for the next debate, where he'll face even harder questions & show to one & all that he spent 9/11 clueless & flying from airbase to airbase hiding his sorry butt.

Geoff

[Hello_Kitty]

8. The 'flip-flop' talking point is OVER!!!!!!

Done. Finished. RIP. :nuke:

[karlrschneider]

9. I went with "clear win". Slam Dunk seems to imply a certainty I'm not

quite willing to grant it. (including a surefire win) It's still a month away and don't EVEN think there aren't a bag full of dirty tricks ready to be unleashed against JK. Some of the shit they're loading WILL stick with uninformed voters! Pundits are saying "maybe no minds were changed"...which may or not be the case, but we cannot let down at this stage of the game. (did I say 'game'??....shit)

[Rabelais]

11. none of the above

the Chimp lost, thats it.
Kerry was scripted, provided nothing new, and only "won" because Bush is brain damaged.
DU is not a place to find objectivity.

[UdoKier]

13. That's a good point.

I should've included that as a choice.

I thought Kerry did a great job, but I can imagine some people thinking that at was more Bush fucking up than Kerry being effective.

I do disagree, however. I think Kerry made an excellent impression.

[Lone_Wolf_Moderate]

12. Contrary to the opinions of Dick Morris, Sean Hannity, Karen Hughes, etc.

Kerry beat Bush on style AND substance. It's amazing to see how Bush's spin doctors spun that debate. Hannity must've been watching the Bizzarro World edition, as was Hughes, Howard Fineman ("Kerry came off as the anti-war candidate"), and others.

[UdoKier]

15. kick

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